Brazil is on fire

[brassmonkey]

100K protesters flood Brazilian streets in protest


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SAO PAULO (AP) ? Some of the biggest demonstrations since the end of Brazil's 1964-85 dictatorship have broken out across this continent-sized country, uniting tens of thousands frustrated by poor transportation, health services, education and security despite a heavy tax burden.

More than 100,000 people were in the streets Monday for largely peaceful protests in at least eight big cities. However, demonstrations in Rio de Janeiro and Belo Horizonte were marred by vandalism and violent clashes with police.

About two dozen people were reported injured.

The wave of protests, which began over a hike in bus prices, was also in large part motivated by widespread images of Sao Paulo police last week beating demonstrators and firing rubber bullets during a march that drew 5,000. In Rio, the violent police crackdown on a small and peaceful crowd Sunday near the Maracana stadium incited many to come out for what local news media described as the city's largest protest in a generation.

Tuesday's newspapers and morning news shows were filled with images of clashes between demonstrators and police in Rio, Porto Alegre, Belo Horizonte. The vast majority of Rio's protesters were peaceful, but a small group of demonstrators attacked the state legislature building, setting a nearby car and other objects ablaze. The newspaper O Globo cited Rio state security officials as saying at least 20 officers and 10 protesters were injured there.

Monday's protests came during soccer's Confederations Cup and just one month before a papal visit, a year before the World Cup and three years ahead of the 2016 Olympics in Rio de Janeiro. The unrest is raising security concerns and renewed questions over Brazil's readiness to host the mega-events.

A cyber-attack knocked the government's official World Cup site offline, and the Twitter feed for Brazil's Anonymous group posted links to a host of other government websites whose content had been replaced by a screen calling on citizens to come out to the streets.

In a brief statement late Monday, President Dilma Rousseff acknowledged the demonstrations, saying: "Peaceful demonstrations are legitimate and part of democracy. It is natural for young people to demonstrate." Rousseff recently saw her popularity rating recently dip for the first time in her presidency, largely over sluggish growth, increasing inflation and security worries. Rousseff faces re-election next year.

Brazilians have long tolerated pervasive corruption, but in about 40 million Brazilians have moved out of poverty and into the middle class over the past decade and they have begun to demand more from government. Many are angry that billions of dollars in public funds are being spent to host the World Cup and Olympics while few improvements are made elsewhere.

In Rio, the confrontation between police and a small group of protesters dragged on late into the night despite sporadic rain. As the group moved on the state legislature building, footage broadcast by the Globo television network showed police firing into the air. At least one demonstrator in Rio was injured after being hit in the leg with a live round allegedly fired by a law enforcement official.

Local news media reported that a high school student in Maceio was shot in the face after a motorist forced his way through the demonstrators' barricade. Protesters were raining fists down on the car when a shot was fired. The extent of the 16-year-old's injuries were not immediately known.

In Sao Paulo, Brazil's economic hub, at least 65,000 protesters gathered Monday at a small, treeless plaza then broke into three directions in a Carnival atmosphere, with drummers beating out samba rhythms as people chanted anti-corruption jingles. They also railed against the action that sparked the first protests last week: a 10-cent hike in bus and subway fares.

Thousands of protesters in the capital, Brasilia, peacefully marched on Congress. Dozens scrambled up a ramp to a low-lying roof, clasping hands and raising their arms, the light from below sending their elongated shadows onto the structure. Some congressional windows were broken, but police did not use force.

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[_Richard_]

ill say, those cops are insane

if that's anything like it's going to be here, we're in a lot of trouble

[mikesouth]

When quality medical care and quality education become the providence of the haves you have the perfect situation for a revolution.

[SwirlsGirl]

I guess it's time for the middle men to block all transactions from the entire country of brazil



Oops my bad they already did a few years ago

[_Richard_]

Originally Posted by mikesouth

When quality medical care and quality education become the providence of the haves you have the perfect situation for a revolution.

wait a minute..

.

[brassmonkey]

Originally Posted by SwirlsGirl

I guess it's time for the middle men to block all transactions from the entire country of brazil



Oops my bad they already did a few years ago

not funny

[Tasty1]

No problems here. But hospitals are realy bad here. Heard that people died waiting for a simple surgery. Or they cut you open without anesthesia. In the bigger cities it must be better, if you are able to bribe a good surgeon.

Last year was worse, the police striked than for 1 week. The second day there was no police groups plunder shops, busses where being robbed and poeole where robbed on the street. Who could stay inside stayed inside their house. Of course the police started the strike 1 week before carnival so they geot extra money so carnival could go on. Expect this also coming worldcup, an excellent time to demonstrate for more money.

And no wonder you get shot when you try to ruin a car, that is normal here. When the police striked somebody tried to rob a gasonline station. He got also shot in the face. When there is no police to protect you, the people protect themselves.

[nikki99]

I love Brazil

I miss it, ai que saudades !

[_Richard_]

Originally Posted by Bjorn_Tasty1

No problems here. But hospitals are realy bad here. Heard that people died waiting for a simple surgery. Or they cut you open without anesthesia. In the bigger cities it must be better, if you are able to bribe a good surgeon.

Last year was worse, the police striked than for 1 week. The second day there was no police groups plunder shops, busses where being robbed and poeole where robbed on the street. Who could stay inside stayed inside their house. Of course the police started the strike 1 week before carnival so they geot extra money so carnival could go on. Expect this also coming worldcup, an excellent time to demonstrate for more money.

And no wonder you get shot when you try to ruin a car, that is normal here. When the police striked somebody tried to rob a gasonline station. He got also shot in the face. When there is no police to protect you, the people protect themselves.

so the entire country of brazil is being held hostage by your police force?

[MaDalton]

Originally Posted by mikesouth

When quality medical care and quality education become the providence of the haves you have the perfect situation for a revolution.

Originally Posted by _Richard_

wait a minute..

.

[bronco67]

Over 100,000 people demonstrating and setting fires.

About two dozen reported injured.

That doesn't sound right.

[Tasty1]

Originally Posted by _Richard_

so the entire country of brazil is being held hostage by your police force?

No, but there are criminals. When there is no police, they try to steal and rob everything. But it is only a small percentage that screws it for 99% of the good people. And that small group of criminals has weapons and don't hesitate to use them. So people are afraid to intervene cause there is always the change you get a lunatic who shoot you for nothing.

In Holland civilians would patrol on the street if something happened like this and there was no police. But that is too risky in Brazil.

But in the end, what are we talking about? I saw bigger demonstrations in Holland. And in the USA something happened after Rodney King and people also start robing after Hurricane Katrina.

[Captain Kawaii]

Originally Posted by Bjorn_Tasty1

No, but there are criminals. When there is no police, they try to steal and rob everything. But it is only a small percentage that screws it for 99% of the good people. And that small group of criminals has weapons and don't hesitate to use them. So people are afraid to intervene cause there is always the change you get a lunatic who shoot you for nothing.

In Holland civilians would patrol on the street if something happened like this and there was no police. But that is too risky in Brazil.

But in the end, what are we talking about? I saw bigger demonstrations in Holland. And in the USA something happened after Rodney King and people also start robing after Hurricane Katrina.

US must be the robbing, looting and raping capital of the world... Good luck, Bjorn, I hope Brazil gets peace soon. I love the place.

[Socks]

Gonna hurt their world cup next year as they're hosting in 2014.

[SGS]

Originally Posted by Socks

Gonna hurt their world cup next year as they're hosting in 2014.

Did you see that shitting plastic clock Pele unveiled last week?

[Lykos]

Hope they wont move world cup cause of it, wouldn't surprise me

[SGS]

Originally Posted by Lykos

Hope they wont move world cup cause of it, wouldn't surprise me

They want to move it as the country is bankrupt and the stadiums probably wont be ready.

[CamTraffic]

Originally Posted by brassmonkey

Monday's protests came during soccer's Confederations Cup and just one month before a papal visit, a year before the World Cup and three years ahead of the 2016 Olympics in Rio de Janeiro. The unrest is raising security concerns and renewed questions over Brazil's readiness to host the mega-events.

I Wonder how they are going to manage the World Cup traffic in a Year

[brassmonkey]

Originally Posted by CamTraffic

I Wonder how they are going to manage the World Cup traffic in a Year

Brazilian Prostitutes Prepare For World Cup 2014

[Sid70]

Meanwhile in Ukraine people are happy and never protest.

[ludballs]

Originally Posted by SGS

Did you see that shitting plastic clock Pele unveiled last week?

whaaat???

[Tasty1]

Originally Posted by Lykos

Hope they wont move world cup cause of it, wouldn't surprise me

People will start demontsrations 2 weeks before the world cup. They will protest for more salary. Cause the government don't want to stop the Worldcup the people get 15 - 20% more salary. That is how it went last year just before the Carnival. And that is what happened last year when the teachers stopped working also. After 2 weeks protesting they got 15% more salary. And now they want again 15% more salary

I predict there is a 95% change the military police will go on strike just before the worldcup.

And they are right. Corruption is astonishing here. The mayor of a big city didn't pay governemnt people for 3 months (teachers/police/garbage collectors) and went away with millions. Leaving the city with hundreds milions of debts so they had to cancel carnival. Is normal in Brazil, nobody is surprised. Look at most international companies that try to start in Brazil, a lot of them stop after some years due to corruption.

But tehre are only a few protests, nothing to worry about. I hope things will change, but the corruption will go on for some more decades.

[Best-In-BC]

Originally Posted by _Richard_

ill say, those cops are insane

if that's anything like it's going to be here, we're in a lot of trouble

We've been in trouble for years, but Canadians, are very very very very very very very very naive & the liberal types that live here believe anything if there told it saves a life.

[seeandsee]

what they want now?

[Tasty1]

Originally Posted by seeandsee

what they want now?

- More salary
- Less corruption
- Better healthcare
- Hospitals instead of stadiums

They build the stadiums, but the price is already 3 times higher than expected.
The corruption works, some peole has become rich by building the stadiums.
If you would have so much money on a stadium in Europe you would have the best stadium in the world with the newest technologies. Here you just have a concrete building without any fancy new things for a much higher price. And probabely the stadium will collapse after 10 years.

"Romario, the former World Cup winning striker turned critic, summed it up in an Instagram post on Tuesday: "I told you, the 2014 World Cup is going to be the biggest robbery in history of Brazil.""

Picture of the day:

[PR_Glen]

Originally Posted by _Richard_

ill say, those cops are insane

if that's anything like it's going to be here, we're in a lot of trouble

You are really comparing Brazil's problems to Canada? Are you insane or clueless?

[_Richard_]

Originally Posted by PR_Glen

You are really comparing Brazil's problems to Canada? Are you insane or clueless?

i.. don't mindlessly attack people because they're talking about something i don't understand

does that make me insane, or clueless?

[PR_Glen]

Originally Posted by _Richard_

i.. don't mindlessly attack people because they're talking about something i don't understand

does that make me insane, or clueless?

hey is this an example of those worthless rhetorical questions you do that the squeeler scorched you for the other day?

[_Richard_]

Originally Posted by PR_Glen

hey is this an example of those worthless rhetorical questions you do that the squeeler scorched you for the other day?

i don't recall 'the squeeler' being anywhere close to 'scorching me'. so no, no it isn't

furthermore, i asked you a question

[PR_Glen]

Originally Posted by _Richard_

i don't recall 'the squeeler' being anywhere close to 'scorching me'. so no, no it isn't

furthermore, i asked you a question

That's just it, you didn't. You posted a meaningless rhetorical.

Here's a tip. Make a point when posting. Answering questions with more questions constantly is a sophmoric teenage way of avoiding that. It's gotten to the point where even Socrates himself would tell you to man up and take a stance...

My stance is clear. There is no revolution pending anywhere unless people are starving. Brazil has this problem, especially in Sao Paul. No where in Canada does this exist. Poverty in Canada is owning only 1 flat screen tv and 1 game console system with full health benefits and province provided housing if needed. Comparing their situation to ours is not only ignorant it is sickening.

[_Richard_]

Originally Posted by PR_Glen

That's just it, you didn't. You posted a meaningless rhetorical.

Here's a tip. Make a point when posting. Answering questions with more questions constantly is a sophmoric teenage way of avoiding that. It's gotten to the point where even Socrates himself would tell you to man up and take a stance...

My stance is clear. There is no revolution pending anywhere unless people are starving. Brazil has this problem, especially in Sao Paul. No where in Canada does this exist. Poverty in Canada is owning only 1 flat screen tv and 1 game console system with full health benefits and province provided housing if needed. Comparing their situation to ours is not only ignorant it is sickening.

listen, i did ask you a question. Don't wanna answer? all well and good, but it stops there

[Sly]

Originally Posted by _Richard_

listen, i did ask you a question. Don't wanna answer? all well and good, but it stops there

He asked you two questions. One would have forced thought and commitment. The second was a rhetorical "are you insane?" You skipped the first question that forced thought and commitment, and focused on the rhetorical in which you issued your own rhetorical back

I'll let you Canadians duke this one out.

[TheSquealer]

Gee _Richard_.... others seem to be calling you out for the same stupid shit I do. Your stupid, safe rhetorical questions because you are thoroughly incapable of forming a complete thought, articulating it and defending it.

Ever wonder how many people think you're a total witless fucking douchebag but don't say it? I'm betting not.... but i'm guessing you're gonna have to start.

[EddyTheDog]

I wonder if we will see a world cup next year - Didn't they close one of the main stadiums as well because it was unsafe?..

This should really be Brasil's decade - Shame it is getting fucked up.....

[_Richard_]

Originally Posted by Sly

He asked you two questions. One would have forced thought and commitment. The second was a rhetorical "are you insane?" You skipped the first question that forced thought and commitment, and focused on the rhetorical in which you issued your own rhetorical back

I'll let you Canadians duke this one out.

alright:

Originally Posted by _Richard_
ill say, those cops are insane

if that's anything like it's going to be here, we're in a lot of trouble

Originally Posted by dumbass
You are really comparing Brazil's problems to Canada? Are you insane or clueless?

so you see how i state the police are insane. My point is if that is the behaviour of the police in brazil over small street protests, the way canadian police behaved during the G20 protests in designated 'free speech zones', and how this global escalation will spell out serious trouble for us

so, i am not 'really comparing' brazils problems to canada. i am comparing the similarities of heavy handed police tactics in both countries.

and, you can see why i changed the subject to idiots attacking people over things they seem to not understand

Originally Posted by TheSquealer

Gee _Richard_.... others seem to be calling you out for the same stupid shit I do. Your stupid, safe rhetorical questions because you are thoroughly incapable of forming a complete thought, articulating it and defending it.

Ever wonder how many people think you're a total witless fucking douchebag but don't say it? I'm betting not.... but i'm guessing you're gonna have to start.

you ever wonder why i don't care?

you 'attack' me every time you feel there is 'blood in the water'. that makes you a coward

[mikesouth]

[brassmonkey]

Originally Posted by mikesouth

or your wife

[AsianDivaGirlsWebDude]

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this is nuts .... Im glad i don't live in Brazil

[Tasty1]

The same or worse would have happened in Rotterdam if Feyenoord would have won the Dutch soccer competition. Brazil is almost as big as the USA or whole Europe. The riots in Greece where bigger. Why do people think the whole country is on fire?

I just watched Brazil - Mexico (2-0) no problems here in the pub.
These are the pre-games for the Worldcup in the Worldcup stadiums.
And the stadium didn't collapse (yet).

Brazil woman, you can't live with them, you don't want to live without them!

[Crazy Enough]

This video will help you understand why Brazil is on fire.



People are really mad here. They are releasing their old hidden anger. I've never seen anything like this. It seems that this is just the beginning. It's not only in one place. It is everywhere!

They've already dropped the bus ticket prices, but this is not enough when you live in a "fake country" where everything is fucked up.

[_Richard_]

Originally Posted by Crazy Enough

This video will help you understand why Brazil is on fire.



People are really mad here. They are releasing their old hidden anger. I've never seen anything like this. It seems that this is just the beginning. It's not only in one place. It is everywhere!

They've already dropped the bus ticket prices, but this is not enough when you live in a "fake country" where everything is fucked up.

we're following closely

https://youtube.com/watch?v=4dd6O...ature=youtu.be

strange link from this video

[brassmonkey]

Originally Posted by Crazy Enough

This video will help you understand why Brazil is on fire.



People are really mad here. They are releasing their old hidden anger. I've never seen anything like this. It seems that this is just the beginning. It's not only in one place. It is everywhere!

They've already dropped the bus ticket prices, but this is not enough when you live in a "fake country" where everything is fucked up.

just go dude vaya con dios

[TheSquealer]

Originally Posted by _Richard_

you ever wonder why i don't care?

you 'attack' me every time you feel there is 'blood in the water'. that makes you a coward

Oooooh. You're a victim. Am here I (and many others) mistook you for a snarky dickhead with an inferiority complex who can't form and articulate an intelligent thought to save your life.

Got it.

I'd keep making fun of you but you keep making the point that it sucks to be you for me.

[nikki99]

Originally Posted by Crazy Enough

This video will help you understand why Brazil is on fire.



People are really mad here. They are releasing their old hidden anger. I've never seen anything like this. It seems that this is just the beginning. It's not only in one place. It is everywhere!

They've already dropped the bus ticket prices, but this is not enough when you live in a "fake country" where everything is fucked up.

I bet it will be the best worldcup of history

[klinton]

Originally Posted by PR_Glen

That's just it, you didn't. You posted a meaningless rhetorical.

Here's a tip. Make a point when posting. Answering questions with more questions constantly is a sophmoric teenage way of avoiding that. It's gotten to the point where even Socrates himself would tell you to man up and take a stance...

My stance is clear. There is no revolution pending anywhere unless people are starving. Brazil has this problem, especially in Sao Paul. No where in Canada does this exist. Poverty in Canada is owning only 1 flat screen tv and 1 game console system with full health benefits and province provided housing if needed. Comparing their situation to ours is not only ignorant it is sickening.

listening to PR crew here is always words of wisdom...rare case here

[theking]

Originally Posted by _Richard_

alright:



so you see how i state the police are insane. My point is if that is the behaviour of the police in brazil over small street protests, the way canadian police behaved during the G20 protests in designated 'free speech zones', and how this global escalation will spell out serious trouble for us

so, i am not 'really comparing' brazils problems to canada. i am comparing the similarities of heavy handed police tactics in both countries.

and, you can see why i changed the subject to idiots attacking people over things they seem to not understand



you ever wonder why i don't care?

you 'attack' me every time you feel there is 'blood in the water'. that makes you a coward

TheSquealer has you pegged exactly right...other than he seems to have left off the fact that you are also a fruitcake.

[Tasty1]

Today also protest here, i think around 4000 people. But have seen the same last year when they wanted the corrupt mayor away (he went away stealing milions of dollars and let the city behind with big debts).

I predict, nothing will change for another 10 years. Corruption is wide spread here.
Last week 2 surgeons beat a gringo for nothing in a bar, hitting him while he was on the ground with 3 man. When they called the police they start threatening the security and the police saying, "You know who i am and who i know. Are you sure you want to arrest me, that will cost you your job". And in fact, that could be true. Some fucked up crazy guy here raped a 6 year old boy 6 months ago. I saw him walking around here last month, his father is an important man here with good politcial contacts....

[_Richard_]

Originally Posted by Bjorn_Tasty1

Today also protest here, i think around 4000 people. But have seen the same last year when they wanted the corrupt mayor away (he went away stealing milions of dollars and let the city behind with big debts).

I predict, nothing will change for another 10 years. Corruption is wide spread here.
Last week 2 surgeons beat a gringo for nothing in a bar, hitting him while he was on the ground with 3 man. When they called the police they start threatening the security and the police saying, "You know who i am and who i know. Are you sure you want to arrest me, that will cost you your job". And in fact, that could be true. Some fucked up crazy guy here raped a 6 year old boy 6 months ago. I saw him walking around here last month, his father is an important man here with good politcial contacts....

well that explains all the pictures of police getting their asses handed to them

the best is the cops being pushed into the ocean