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Mutt · 04-26-2013, 12:58 PM

#4.
Winston Churchill Was the Universally Beloved Leader of the Good Guys

Claimed By:

Biographers, [English] historians, skewed opinion polls and people who have never heard of British Raj

Why it's Bullshit:

Churchill was great at giving wartimes speeches, and no doubt was an effective cheerleader for England while the Nazis were bombing the shit out of London. But his popularity didn't extend very far beyond a psychological concept called the "rally round the flag" effect, which significantly reduces criticisms of a character/government post-crisis. Remember when George W. Bush's approval ratings shot past 80 percent after 9/11?

It didn't last, and Churchill immediately was booted from office just months after Germany surrendered. Why?

Churchill suffered from an insatiable urge similar to "bloodlust" in Warcaft to keep fighting WWII for as long as he felt like it. Since this meant millions of men would be dying for his ego, it made him quite unpopular within the British military. Churchill's craziest scheme: A preemptive invasion of Russia on July 1, 1945 with the help of re-armed German forces. Yes, he wanted to start World War III before we had even started shoveling the rubble of WWII. It was his aptly-named Operation Unthinkable, and even his closest supporters thought it was batshit insane.

As for Churchill the Prime Minister, Brits began experiencing a bit of an "oh shit" feeling when it hit them that they might be stuck with the nutcase in peacetime. Winnie didn't make this anxiety any easier for himself, calling his Labour opponents "Gestapo" even though they served key posts in his war cabinet. Thus Britons promptly responded in 1945 by kicking his enormous ass out of office in one of the most spectacular electoral defeats in history.

Nevertheless, Churchill did enjoy high approval ratings from his people... that is, if you ignore the 400 million inhabitants of British Raj, present-day Pakistan, Bangladesh, Myanmar and, the big one, India. By Churchill's own standards, these people were part of the British Empire (including all those poor villagers in Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom), yet he was a fierce opponent to any kind of Indian autonomy.

The country was forced into World War II, and its leaders arrested if they protested. Churchill even took a hard-line against Mohandas Gandhi, going so far as to advocate" letting Gandhi starve to death" during his hunger strikes.

TheFootMan5 · 04-26-2013, 12:59 PM

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kadudu · 04-26-2013, 01:02 PM

Churchill was pretty much a gigantic douche. There's a book that showed he was planning to make a separate peace treaty with Mussolini and even sent him flattering letters, but then when it was clear that Italy was going to surrender he sent assassins posed as Italian communists to kill him when he thought the stuff he sent Mussolini would come back to bite him.

He also wanted China's KMT leader Chiang Kai-shek to take on the Japanese all by himself and did as much as possible to redirect American aid from China to his interests in Burma and other parts of the globe. Yea he helped against Hitler, but the guy was certainly a war monger.

harvey · 04-26-2013, 01:04 PM

cue Sally Rand in 3...2...1...

Mutt · 04-26-2013, 01:11 PM

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crockett · 04-26-2013, 01:25 PM

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I've been meaning to ask.. is that sig from a movie or is there some police dept out there that really is the keystone cops?

Rochard · 04-26-2013, 01:26 PM

Some leaders are good during war and not so good during peace.

harvey · 04-26-2013, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by crockett

I've been meaning to ask.. is that sig from a movie or is there some police dept out there that really is the keystone cops?

seoxpertz · 04-27-2013, 02:21 AM

Secret societies

Manfap · 04-27-2013, 04:42 AM

he was prime minister from 51-55 aswell.

pimpmaster9000 · 04-27-2013, 05:09 AM

operation unthinkable was a counter strategy in case stalin did not honor agreements because churchill was paranoid...the USA had a similar plan, it even involved a nuclear scenario but the russians had taken the glory with berlin and a nuke on allies would not ring well with the home crowd...it was not really a plan of action everybody was tired of war...

adultGeek · 04-27-2013, 06:03 AM

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Mutt Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 34,431	Another Take on Winston Churchill #4. Winston Churchill Was the Universally Beloved Leader of the Good Guys Claimed By: Biographers, [English] historians, skewed opinion polls and people who have never heard of British Raj Why it's Bullshit: Churchill was great at giving wartimes speeches, and no doubt was an effective cheerleader for England while the Nazis were bombing the shit out of London. But his popularity didn't extend very far beyond a psychological concept called the "rally round the flag" effect, which significantly reduces criticisms of a character/government post-crisis. Remember when George W. Bush's approval ratings shot past 80 percent after 9/11? It didn't last, and Churchill immediately was booted from office just months after Germany surrendered. Why? Churchill suffered from an insatiable urge similar to "bloodlust" in Warcaft to keep fighting WWII for as long as he felt like it. Since this meant millions of men would be dying for his ego, it made him quite unpopular within the British military. Churchill's craziest scheme: A preemptive invasion of Russia on July 1, 1945 with the help of re-armed German forces. Yes, he wanted to start World War III before we had even started shoveling the rubble of WWII. It was his aptly-named Operation Unthinkable, and even his closest supporters thought it was batshit insane. As for Churchill the Prime Minister, Brits began experiencing a bit of an "oh shit" feeling when it hit them that they might be stuck with the nutcase in peacetime. Winnie didn't make this anxiety any easier for himself, calling his Labour opponents "Gestapo" even though they served key posts in his war cabinet. Thus Britons promptly responded in 1945 by kicking his enormous ass out of office in one of the most spectacular electoral defeats in history. Nevertheless, Churchill did enjoy high approval ratings from his people... that is, if you ignore the 400 million inhabitants of British Raj, present-day Pakistan, Bangladesh, Myanmar and, the big one, India. By Churchill's own standards, these people were part of the British Empire (including all those poor villagers in Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom), yet he was a fierce opponent to any kind of Indian autonomy. The country was forced into World War II, and its leaders arrested if they protested. Churchill even took a hard-line against Mohandas Gandhi, going so far as to advocate" letting Gandhi starve to death" during his hunger strikes. __________________ I moved my sites to Vacares Hosting. I've saved money, my hair is thicker, lost some weight too! Thanks Sly!

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kadudu Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 220	Churchill was pretty much a gigantic douche. There's a book that showed he was planning to make a separate peace treaty with Mussolini and even sent him flattering letters, but then when it was clear that Italy was going to surrender he sent assassins posed as Italian communists to kill him when he thought the stuff he sent Mussolini would come back to bite him. He also wanted China's KMT leader Chiang Kai-shek to take on the Japanese all by himself and did as much as possible to redirect American aid from China to his interests in Burma and other parts of the globe. Yea he helped against Hitler, but the guy was certainly a war monger.

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pimpmaster9000 Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 26,732	operation unthinkable was a counter strategy in case stalin did not honor agreements because churchill was paranoid...the USA had a similar plan, it even involved a nuclear scenario but the russians had taken the glory with berlin and a nuke on allies would not ring well with the home crowd...it was not really a plan of action everybody was tired of war...