WTF? Trannie won custody of kids - GoFuckYourself.com

angeleyes · 02-24-2003, 08:47 AM

Court system is fucked up:

"Lawyers for the former wife of Michael Kantaras had argued Kantaras was not legally a man when they married in 1989 so the marriage was invalid. Florida bans same-sex marriages and homosexuals from adopting children.

But in his 809-page ruling and divorce decree Friday, Circuit Judge Gerard O'Brien said that under Florida law "there is no statutory requirement that the (marriage license) applicants shall prove their gender."

The law, the judge said, "provides that marriage shall take place between one man and one woman. It does not provide when such status of being a man or woman shall be determined."

The ruling confirms Michael Kantaras is the legal parent of the couple's two children -- his former wife's son, whom he had already adopted, and a daughter Linda Kantaras conceived during their marriage with donated sperm.

"I'm so relieved," Michael Kantaras said after the ruling. "Now my kids and I can get on with our lives in peace."

Legal experts said the ruling, the first of its kind in the Florida, could provide a legal definition of gender in the state and give non-biological or stepparents a legal foundation to seek visitation or custody.

"This is an amazing decision, because the judge has overlooked the fact that he's a transsexual and looked at the best interests of the children," said Lynne Gold-Bikin, former chairwoman of the American Bar Association's family law section.

O'Brien reached his decision more than a year after the three-week custody trial, which began in January 2002.

Linda Kantaras is shown during a custody hearing in a courtroom in Clearwater, Florida, in 2001.
In his ruling, he noted that a court-appointed custody evaluator had determined Michael Kantaras, 43, was the better parent and that Linda Kantaras, 34, had tried to turn the children against him. The judge awarded her "liberal visitation rights."

Linda Kantaras' attorneys did not return a phone call for comment Friday.

Michael Kantaras was born Margo Kantaras in 1959. He had a sex change operation in Texas in 1986 and legally changed his name.

When he and Linda Kantaras married in 1989, she knew he had been a woman. Her son, from a previous relationship, was adopted by Michael Kantaras as an infant. The children are now 13 and 11.

The marriage dissolved in 1998 when Michael Kantaras became involved with another woman. "

wethoney · 02-24-2003, 08:55 AM

What does her sexuality have to do with her parenting skills??

sherie · 02-24-2003, 08:59 AM

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Originally posted by wethoney
What does her sexuality have to do with her parenting skills??

Thank you! And it would be him, as she is fully a man now and has been for some time....The judge ruled that he is the better parent, why should his gender have anything to do with it...

angeleyes · 02-24-2003, 09:00 AM

One would think that atleast JOINT custody would be fair. The Mother has never abused drugs, abused the children and the Father is the one that decided to cheat and end the marraige. I just don't think him getting full custody is right.

sherie · 02-24-2003, 09:06 AM

"liberal visitation rights."

I would imagine that she has. I am sure that we don't know the full story, but you know that when a Judge awards your children to the other partner, that their skills are more than not up to par

Sarah_Jayne · 02-24-2003, 09:09 AM

don't see why her sexuality should have any influence on the judgement. Not as if he is forcing the kids to cross dress or anything.

angeleyes · 02-24-2003, 09:14 AM

Well, in one news report it said that he was considering transforming back to a she again.... I would think that would confuse the children. Possibly it was a bogus report, and no I didn't read it in the Enquirer......but who knows.

Sarah_Jayne · 02-24-2003, 09:25 AM

so, any parent that confuses their kids shouldn't get custody? If the worst thing she does it have a sex change then she is better than a lot of other parent's I know.

02-24-2003, 08:47 AM	#1
angeleyes Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Wandering around FL using random Wireless Connections Posts: 3,584	WTF? Trannie won custody of kids Court system is fucked up: "Lawyers for the former wife of Michael Kantaras had argued Kantaras was not legally a man when they married in 1989 so the marriage was invalid. Florida bans same-sex marriages and homosexuals from adopting children. But in his 809-page ruling and divorce decree Friday, Circuit Judge Gerard O'Brien said that under Florida law "there is no statutory requirement that the (marriage license) applicants shall prove their gender." The law, the judge said, "provides that marriage shall take place between one man and one woman. It does not provide when such status of being a man or woman shall be determined." The ruling confirms Michael Kantaras is the legal parent of the couple's two children -- his former wife's son, whom he had already adopted, and a daughter Linda Kantaras conceived during their marriage with donated sperm. "I'm so relieved," Michael Kantaras said after the ruling. "Now my kids and I can get on with our lives in peace." Legal experts said the ruling, the first of its kind in the Florida, could provide a legal definition of gender in the state and give non-biological or stepparents a legal foundation to seek visitation or custody. "This is an amazing decision, because the judge has overlooked the fact that he's a transsexual and looked at the best interests of the children," said Lynne Gold-Bikin, former chairwoman of the American Bar Association's family law section. O'Brien reached his decision more than a year after the three-week custody trial, which began in January 2002. Linda Kantaras is shown during a custody hearing in a courtroom in Clearwater, Florida, in 2001. In his ruling, he noted that a court-appointed custody evaluator had determined Michael Kantaras, 43, was the better parent and that Linda Kantaras, 34, had tried to turn the children against him. The judge awarded her "liberal visitation rights." Linda Kantaras' attorneys did not return a phone call for comment Friday. Michael Kantaras was born Margo Kantaras in 1959. He had a sex change operation in Texas in 1986 and legally changed his name. When he and Linda Kantaras married in 1989, she knew he had been a woman. Her son, from a previous relationship, was adopted by Michael Kantaras as an infant. The children are now 13 and 11. The marriage dissolved in 1998 when Michael Kantaras became involved with another woman. " __________________ Need a Writer? Contact Me. I write quality descriptions, short erotic stories, quality one-liners.. whatever you need. Last edited by angeleyes; 02-24-2003 at 08:49 AM..

02-24-2003, 09:00 AM	#4
angeleyes Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Wandering around FL using random Wireless Connections Posts: 3,584	One would think that atleast JOINT custody would be fair. The Mother has never abused drugs, abused the children and the Father is the one that decided to cheat and end the marraige. I just don't think him getting full custody is right. __________________ Need a Writer? Contact Me. I write quality descriptions, short erotic stories, quality one-liners.. whatever you need.

02-24-2003, 09:06 AM	#5
sherie Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 7,020	"liberal visitation rights." I would imagine that she has. I am sure that we don't know the full story, but you know that when a Judge awards your children to the other partner, that their skills are more than not up to par __________________ AIM sherierocks ICQ 127-296-286 Skype traffichor

02-24-2003, 09:14 AM	#7
angeleyes Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Wandering around FL using random Wireless Connections Posts: 3,584	Well, in one news report it said that he was considering transforming back to a she again.... I would think that would confuse the children. Possibly it was a bogus report, and no I didn't read it in the Enquirer......but who knows. __________________ Need a Writer? Contact Me. I write quality descriptions, short erotic stories, quality one-liners.. whatever you need.

02-24-2003, 08:55 AM	#2
wethoney So Fucking Banned Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 1,032	What does her sexuality have to do with her parenting skills??

02-24-2003, 09:09 AM	#6
Sarah_Jayne Now with more Jayne Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 40,077	don't see why her sexuality should have any influence on the judgement. Not as if he is forcing the kids to cross dress or anything.

02-24-2003, 09:25 AM	#8
Sarah_Jayne Now with more Jayne Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 40,077	so, any parent that confuses their kids shouldn't get custody? If the worst thing she does it have a sex change then she is better than a lot of other parent's I know.