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  • Mike Honcho
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    • Aug 2007
    • 1608
    #1

    Police raid wrong home, kill resident

    Cliff notes;

    -Police get tip of drug activity from informant
    -Raid the house next door by mistake
    -Claim identified themselves as police
    -61-year-old man and wife think it's a home invasion
    -Man fires sawed-off at them
    -Police shoot him 3 times and kill him
    -24 and 25-year-old officers placed on paid leave

    http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=95...LyhJG0.twitter


    Lol at giving the cops a paid vacation after having just murdered a man in cold blood. What should happen here is the cops should be charged with murder, man slaughter at the bare minimum.
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    • TheFootMan5
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      • Jan 2013
      • 645
      #2
      Absolutely fucking astonishing

      Beyond immoral...what a disgusting species

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        • bean-aid
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          • Jun 2011
          • 16493
          #3
          Did they raid the right house after?

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            • Mike Honcho
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              • Aug 2007
              • 1608
              #4
              Originally posted by beaner
              Did they raid the right house after?
              Good question.

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                • Mr Pheer
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                  • Dec 2002
                  • 22083
                  #5
                  It's standard for cops to be placed on paid leave following a shooting, no matter what the circumstances are.

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                    • TheFootMan5
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                      • Jan 2013
                      • 645
                      #6
                      Originally posted by Mr Pheer
                      It's standard for cops to be placed on paid leave following a shooting, no matter what the circumstances are.
                      Sure, perfectly normal

                      Imagine if a slave "citizen" shot a cop?

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                        • Ayla_SquareTurtle
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                          • Sep 2005
                          • 3550
                          #7
                          Strange that the article is not dated. This case is 13 years old. Linkbait much, ABC News?
                          gone. long gone.

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                            • Fetish Gimp
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                              • Feb 2005
                              • 1699
                              #8
                              Originally posted by Ayla_SquareTurtle
                              Strange that the article is not dated. This case is 13 years old. Linkbait much, ABC News?
                              In case anyone wants to check
                              http://www.salon.com/2000/10/19/shooting_3/
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                                • TheFootMan5
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                                  • Jan 2013
                                  • 645
                                  #9
                                  Originally posted by Fetish Gimp
                                  In case anyone wants to check
                                  http://www.salon.com/2000/10/19/shooting_3/
                                  Doesn't matter if it's 1040 or 2000 or 2013 or 2060...wrong is wrong, immoral is immoral

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                                    • kane
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                                      • Aug 2001
                                      • 20684
                                      #10
                                      Originally posted by Mike Honcho
                                      Cliff notes;

                                      -Police get tip of drug activity from informant
                                      -Raid the house next door by mistake
                                      -Claim identified themselves as police
                                      -61-year-old man and wife think it's a home invasion
                                      -Man fires sawed-off at them
                                      -Police shoot him 3 times and kill him
                                      -24 and 25-year-old officers placed on paid leave

                                      http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=95...LyhJG0.twitter


                                      Lol at giving the cops a paid vacation after having just murdered a man in cold blood. What should happen here is the cops should be charged with murder, man slaughter at the bare minimum.
                                      To me the person or persons who should be charged with murder are those who made the decision that this was the correct house to raid.

                                      If you are going to bust into a house with guns out you had better make sure you have the right one. You can't blame the old man for shooting at them nor can you blame the officers who shot back because in the heat of the moment they both felt they were defending themselves.

                                      Neither of them would have been in that position had they gotten the correct house.

                                      If course, if it turns out those who did the shooting were also responsible for making sure this was the correct house then they should be charged.

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                                        • TheFootMan5
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                                          • Jan 2013
                                          • 645
                                          #11
                                          Originally posted by kane
                                          To me the person or persons who should be charged with murder are those who made the decision that this was the correct house to raid.

                                          If you are going to bust into a house with guns out you had better make sure you have the right one. You can't blame the old man for shooting at them nor can you blame the officers who shot back because in the heat of the moment they both felt they were defending themselves.

                                          Neither of them would have been in that position had they gotten the correct house.

                                          If course, if it turns out those who did the shooting were also responsible for making sure this was the correct house then they should be charged.
                                          Exactly

                                          And to make things worse, they wanted to bust into a house that was not engaging in any real crime...just amazing...too bad the old man didn't blow these loser scumbags away

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                                            • L-Pink
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                                              • Mar 2005
                                              • 39151
                                              #12
                                              But drug informants are always smart reliable people ...

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                                                • CurrentlySober
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                                                  • Aug 2002
                                                  • 38940
                                                  #13


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                                                    • kane
                                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                      • Aug 2001
                                                      • 20684
                                                      #14
                                                      Originally posted by L-Pink
                                                      But drug informants are always smart reliable people ...
                                                      I read the two articles and it sounds like the drug informant told them the correct house, but the supervisor in charge of the raid forgot which one it was and took them to the wrong place.

                                                      The crazy part is that there are only two houses on this street and they still got it wrong.

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                                                        • NewNick
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                                                          • Mar 2009
                                                          • 7229
                                                          #15
                                                          Originally posted by TheFootMan5
                                                          Absolutely fucking astonishing

                                                          Beyond immoral...what a disgusting species
                                                          Interesting choice of phrase Johnny.

                                                          Whose morals are you referring to ?

                                                          The white middle class christian morals that your were indoctrinated with.

                                                          Or do your Alien Lizzard posse have a different set of morals ?
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                                                            • CamTraffic
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                                                              • Feb 2008
                                                              • 6538
                                                              #16
                                                              So the Cops have the right to Enter your House if they have a Warrant...
                                                              You have the right to bare Arms...
                                                              What if they come in and you shoot one of them in your own house? are you at fault?

                                                              What if that Old man shot one of the Cop?
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                                                                • SteveHardeman
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                                                                  • Jul 2008
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                                                                  #17
                                                                  Anyone happen to know what happened to the cops in question since this event?

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                                                                    • bronco67
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                                                                      • Dec 2006
                                                                      • 29032
                                                                      #18
                                                                      They should start using Google nav. It would have told them "you're destination is on the right".

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                                                                        • ls101
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                                                                          • Nov 2012
                                                                          • 713
                                                                          #19
                                                                          Administrative Law, Trespassing, Murder ?

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                                                                            • DWB
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                                                                              • Jul 2003
                                                                              • 31779
                                                                              #20
                                                                              I have no problem with this. They were just doing their job. I fully support home invasions if it makes me feel safer.

                                                                              </sarcasm>

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                                                                                • privatesociety
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                                                                                  • Jan 2013
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                                                                                  #21
                                                                                  Originally posted by CamTraffic
                                                                                  So the Cops have the right to Enter your House if they have a Warrant...
                                                                                  You have the right to bare Arms...
                                                                                  What if they come in and you shoot one of them in your own house? are you at fault?

                                                                                  What if that Old man shot one of the Cop?
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                                                                                    • _Richard_
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                                                                                      • Oct 2006
                                                                                      • 30991
                                                                                      #22
                                                                                      no fear you 'this article happened way too long ago for me to care' types

                                                                                      This same scenario happened in Vancouver last year

                                                                                      they beat the man within an inch of his life and from my understanding is still recovering

                                                                                      212, not 221

                                                                                      but yea, day in the life

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                                                                                        • media
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                                                                                          • Apr 2002
                                                                                          • 9853
                                                                                          #23
                                                                                          He was within his rights to pull out his shotgun and fire.. even if they said police, there's been huge increase in people posing as police and doing home invasions.. This widow needs to sue the ever living fuck out of the police force and bankrupt the town then move out of that shit hole.. The police need to get their fucking facts straight first before moving on a house like this.. these shoe string cops need to have their asses handed to them!
                                                                                          I'm here for the violence!

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                                                                                            • Socks
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                                                                                              • May 2002
                                                                                              • 8475
                                                                                              #24
                                                                                              We're going to have to know if these were "good people" or not first.

                                                                                              They live next to drug dealers, and own a sawed off shotgun.

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                                                                                                • just a punk
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                                                                                                  • Jun 2003
                                                                                                  • 32393
                                                                                                  #25
                                                                                                  There was a good episode in "Reno 911" on Comedy Central about "wrong door raid". Highly recommended
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                                                                                                    • brassmonkey
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                                                                                                      #26
                                                                                                      shotguns are a joke. he should of had a sks or ak-47 you have to keep up with the times
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                                                                                                        • Ayla_SquareTurtle
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                                                                                                          • Sep 2005
                                                                                                          • 3550
                                                                                                          #27
                                                                                                          I forgot about this thread, but let me just say. How fucking ridiculous to imply that because I pointed out that the article is old, it means I don't care. I did care, I just found it a bit strange that a 13 year old article without a date was making the rounds to several sites at the same time.

                                                                                                          I now return you to your regularly scheduled ridiculousness.
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                                                                                                            • Rochard
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                                                                                                              • Dec 2001
                                                                                                              • 75733
                                                                                                              #28
                                                                                                              Originally posted by kane
                                                                                                              You can't blame the old man for shooting at them nor can you blame the officers who shot back because in the heat of the moment they both felt they were defending themselves.
                                                                                                              So what you are saying is that when police raid your house you can shoot them? That must be new.

                                                                                                              The police banged on the door, identified themselves, announced it was a police raid, and the homeowner shot the police? The homeowner wasn't defending his house; He was shooting police officers who were doing their job. And no matter what, when you shoot at police officers, they shoot back.

                                                                                                              The fact that they had the wrong house is not a factor. The homeowner surely didn't know they had the wrong house, and even if he did it's still not a legal justification to shoot at police.
                                                                                                              Herschel Savage
                                                                                                              Brooklyn, NY

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                                                                                                                • Webmaster Advertising
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                                                                                                                  • Sep 2003
                                                                                                                  • 1360
                                                                                                                  #29
                                                                                                                  Originally posted by Rochard
                                                                                                                  So what you are saying is that when police raid your house you can shoot them? That must be new.
                                                                                                                  I actually think there are (or were) laws in a couple of states whereby if the homeowner felt the cop was unlawfully entering his property, the homeowner is well within their legal right to shoot the officer trespassing on his property.

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                                                                                                                    • Socks
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                                                                                                                      • May 2002
                                                                                                                      • 8475
                                                                                                                      #30
                                                                                                                      Originally posted by Rochard
                                                                                                                      So what you are saying is that when police raid your house you can shoot them? That must be new.

                                                                                                                      The police banged on the door, identified themselves, announced it was a police raid, and the homeowner shot the police? The homeowner wasn't defending his house; He was shooting police officers who were doing their job. And no matter what, when you shoot at police officers, they shoot back.

                                                                                                                      The fact that they had the wrong house is not a factor. The homeowner surely didn't know they had the wrong house, and even if he did it's still not a legal justification to shoot at police.
                                                                                                                      If I ever decide to invade your home, I will yell "POLICE! POLICE!" and because I said the magic word, you will open your door for me.

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                                                                                                                        • Rochard
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                                                                                                                          #31
                                                                                                                          Originally posted by Webmaster Advertising
                                                                                                                          I actually think there are (or were) laws in a couple of states whereby if the homeowner felt the cop was unlawfully entering his property, the homeowner is well within their legal right to shoot the officer trespassing on his property.
                                                                                                                          How does the homeowner know in the heat of the moment if a police raid is "lawful" or not?
                                                                                                                          Herschel Savage
                                                                                                                          Brooklyn, NY

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                                                                                                                            • Fat Panda
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                                                                                                                              • Aug 2006
                                                                                                                              • 13296
                                                                                                                              #32
                                                                                                                              police who ILLEGALLY enter your home are NOT police they are CRIMINALS. in many states you can LEGALLY shoot the motherfuckers!

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                                                                                                                                • sicone
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                                                                                                                                  • Jan 2004
                                                                                                                                  • 18453
                                                                                                                                  #33
                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by Rochard
                                                                                                                                  .... The fact that they had the wrong house is not a factor...

                                                                                                                                  That is a HUGE factor. If they enter a house that was not covered by the warrant they had allowing for the raid to take place then it becomes illegal search and seizure, illegal breaking and entering, assuming they smashed the door down to enter. There are several other rights and laws violated because they had the wrong house.

                                                                                                                                  No matter what they think or try to make you feel, cops are NOT above the law they are paid to enforce.

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                                                                                                                                    • kane
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                                                                                                                                      • Aug 2001
                                                                                                                                      • 20684
                                                                                                                                      #34
                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by Rochard
                                                                                                                                      So what you are saying is that when police raid your house you can shoot them? That must be new.

                                                                                                                                      The police banged on the door, identified themselves, announced it was a police raid, and the homeowner shot the police? The homeowner wasn't defending his house; He was shooting police officers who were doing their job. And no matter what, when you shoot at police officers, they shoot back.

                                                                                                                                      The fact that they had the wrong house is not a factor. The homeowner surely didn't know they had the wrong house, and even if he did it's still not a legal justification to shoot at police.
                                                                                                                                      I can see how he could be confused. First, he is an old guy. Second, he may not have heard them say police. When they raid a house they literally pound on the door twice, yell "Police, search warrant" then break the door down. The only reason they knock and say that is because the law requires them to.

                                                                                                                                      So he is in the bedroom minding his own business then suddenly he hears the door get bashed in and his wife is screaming. I can understand how in the confusion of the moment he might pull out his shotgun and start shooting.

                                                                                                                                      Again, none of this would have happened had the supervisor in charge gotten the correct house.

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                                                                                                                                        • kane
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                                                                                                                                          • Aug 2001
                                                                                                                                          • 20684
                                                                                                                                          #35
                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by Rochard
                                                                                                                                          How does the homeowner know in the heat of the moment if a police raid is "lawful" or not?
                                                                                                                                          Well, you can assume if you have done nothing wrong or illegal that the raid is not lawful.

                                                                                                                                          You have said several times that you have nothing to hide. You don't break any laws and are a typical, law abiding citizen. So the police have no reason to smash your door in and raid your house.

                                                                                                                                          Imagine you are sitting in one room of your house working away. Suddenly you hear your front door get bashed in and your wife is screaming hysterically about being attacked. You rush out (I don't know if you have any guns handy or not) and see a couple of guys dressed in black with assault rifles run across your living room. They might be wearing police jackets, but wouldn't you, at least for a minute, question if this was legit?

                                                                                                                                          If it were me I would. You have done nothing wrong so they have no reason to be there which means their presence in the first place is questionable.

                                                                                                                                          If you are selling drugs out of your house or doing some other illegal activity and you get raiding, you can't be too surprised. Kind of like if you are driving 100 mph down the freeway, you can't be shocked if you get pulled over for speeding.

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                                                                                                                                            • Rochard
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                                                                                                                                              #36
                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by kane
                                                                                                                                              Well, you can assume if you have done nothing wrong or illegal that the raid is not lawful.
                                                                                                                                              No, not at all. Police can have a valid warrant, the right address, even though you've done nothing wrong.

                                                                                                                                              This happened to me once. One night at 3am the local cops were banging on my door - loudly. I turned on all of the lights, confirmed they were police officers by looking out the window, and opened up my door. They cam in force - four of them - all armed with shot guns. They had a report of some kind of domestic disturbance, and for some reason they thought it was coming from my house.

                                                                                                                                              Shooting them because they were "illegally trespassing on my property at 3am" never crossed my mind.

                                                                                                                                              Listen, it's very fucking simple. If the cops raid your house for whatever reason you have two options:
                                                                                                                                              1) Do what your told, hope it doesn't hurt too much when they drag your face on the floor, and then sue them for being idiots.
                                                                                                                                              2) Open fire on police and be shot dead.

                                                                                                                                              I know which choice I'm taking. Idiots.
                                                                                                                                              Herschel Savage
                                                                                                                                              Brooklyn, NY

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                                                                                                                                                • kane
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                                                                                                                                                  • Aug 2001
                                                                                                                                                  • 20684
                                                                                                                                                  #37
                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by Rochard
                                                                                                                                                  No, not at all. Police can have a valid warrant, the right address, even though you've done nothing wrong.

                                                                                                                                                  This happened to me once. One night at 3am the local cops were banging on my door - loudly. I turned on all of the lights, confirmed they were police officers by looking out the window, and opened up my door. They cam in force - four of them - all armed with shot guns. They had a report of some kind of domestic disturbance, and for some reason they thought it was coming from my house.

                                                                                                                                                  Shooting them because they were "illegally trespassing on my property at 3am" never crossed my mind.

                                                                                                                                                  Listen, it's very fucking simple. If the cops raid your house for whatever reason you have two options:
                                                                                                                                                  1) Do what your told, hope it doesn't hurt too much when they drag your face on the floor, and then sue them for being idiots.
                                                                                                                                                  2) Open fire on police and be shot dead.

                                                                                                                                                  I know which choice I'm taking. Idiots.
                                                                                                                                                  It seems to me there is a pretty big difference between then pounding on your door, you looking out the window and seeing they are police then opening the door and them smashing the door in and raiding the place.

                                                                                                                                                  What would your mindset had been if you woke up because you thought he heard a pounding on the door then the next thing you heard was the door get smashed in? When you heard it was the police, like you say, you can choose to hope for the best or shoot and I too would hope for the best and be planning my lawsuit as they finished their raid, but I can understand how some people could get confused.

                                                                                                                                                  In this particular case the wife actually said to the husband that they were being robbed and told him to get his gun.

                                                                                                                                                  It is a tragic situation all the way around. An innocent guy died. Two cops will have to live with killing an innocent guy for the rest of their lives and from what I understand this is a pretty small town and the police/city are going to get sued into oblivion.

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                                                                                                                                                    • seXXXhub
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                                                                                                                                                      America !

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                                                                                                                                                        • RobertL
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                                                                                                                                                          #39
                                                                                                                                                          Does anyone know how this 13 year old event got resolved? Was anyone ever charged?
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                                                                                                                                                            • DBS.US
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                                                                                                                                                              • Aug 2003
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                                                                                                                                                              #40
                                                                                                                                                              Tip: Post your home address clearly on a wall near a light.
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                                                                                                                                                                • Dirty F
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                                                                                                                                                                  • Jul 2001
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                                                                                                                                                                  #41
                                                                                                                                                                  I see only one solution! America needs more guns!

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                                                                                                                                                                    • Zeiss
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                                                                                                                                                                      #42
                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by beaner
                                                                                                                                                                      Did they raid the right house after?
                                                                                                                                                                      I was wondering the same thing..


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