A true journalist investigates until they have an accurate story, filled with the truth, as far as they can confirm and gather it, and then they report such truths without fear.

This form of journalism is dead and buried.

Better to put your trust in real journalists, like:







:stoned

ADG

I am not a follower or believer in Alex Jones or Glenn Beck.

EDIT: As I do not follow them, I do not know all that they have to say. It is possible that I AM in agreement with them regarding some issues. Which issues? Who knows, as I do not keep track of their views on any and all topics.

Do you believe what Donald Rumsfeld has to say? Do you believe what Dick Cheney has to say? What does it matter what people have to say? Only the truth matters.

Interesting...





https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pGbEJ3pXwWM

Thank god someone else finally pointed this out. Totally correct.

Easiest way to argue is call other side DUMB, RETARD, IDIOTS.
Way to go. It makes you smarter.

Yeah, um, No.

:thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup

They could have easily rigged the buildings very quickly, below is an analysis for the 110 story twin towers. WTC7 would be a walk in the park by all means.

Independent Analysis of Scientific Evidence Relating to 9/11

Let's examine the logistical requirements of planting 20,000lbs of thermite or conventional explosive. We must first determine that the physical transportation of materials onto the site is possible and that method is portable.

We'll begin by converting our units to metric for easier reading:

20,000 lbs
= 9090.9 kg
= 9.0909 Tonnes

9 tonnes may seem a lot, but as I'll soon show you, many hands do indeed make light work. Assuming 50 people were involved, that would require each to plant:

181.818 Kg

That would require 3 trips, carrying approximately 60kg per trip. Assuming a generic device size of around 3kg, that would be 20 devices per trip, or 60 devices per man in total. For a mental reference, the average weight for a male adult in the US is around 76-83 kg according to Wikipedia.

60 Devices * 50 people = 3000 devices

As each building had 110 floors, that gives us 220 floors in total. We can spread these 50 people so that we have 1 person for every 4 floors, across both buildings and ignore the bottom 10 floors, leaving us with 200 floors to cover.

Each man would then place 15 devices on each of the 4 floors assigned to him.

50 peopele * 4 floors = 200 floors
(15 devices x 4 floors) * 50 people = 3000 locations/devices

So, that's 1500 devices and 25 men per building.

Thus, it is feasible for there to be as little as 33 people involved if each carried 90kg. Gaining access has numerous plausible scenarios and only requires a window of 5 minutes. Given a good hiding spot for the devices, 1 person could move across 4 floors, positioning 60 devices, in 3-4 hours.

So, here is a quick table:

50 people - about 3-4 hours
100 people - about 1.5-2 hours
150 people - about an hour

Numerous other variations of this basic analysis will also function just as well. As you can see, it would be pretty easy for any organization of sufficient size involved in organized crime.

Yeah, except.. they couldn't. Takes a very long time to actually prepare a building for demolition and even under the best of circumstances.

But why should facts play into anyones fantasy??

Yeah... "finally explained".

Crazy that so many can think the fucking massive commercial airliners loaded with fuel, traveling at 500+ knots and flying straight into the buildings wiping out structural columns and weakening the rest with fire, had something to do with the buildings coming down.

Watched this last night---It was good.

You all too easily forget the 'fucking massive commercial airliner loaded with fuel' which was delayed at the airport so couldn't get to WTC7 in time; the building still fell into it's own footprint, I shouldn't have to remind you of this as it's now 2013 :upsidedow

LOL!!! Complete idiots, both of them.

Quite interesting.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=dNQxWHOKB6U

These asshats are multi millionaires. Disgusting.

Yeah, um, Yes. The owner of WTC7 said so himself.

ad hominem attacks, the low man on the 'rational discussion' totem pole.

But what you don't know is that in the 1980's there were rumors about the WTC being wired with explosives.

The WTC had been operating under a wavier for mandatory asbestos removal.
The removal of asbestos was expensive and the job was said to cost $1 Billion to complete.
Removal was started and moving slow and it's rumored that the asbestos removal crew
saw what appeared to be wired explosives on beams and columns of the buildings.

That rumor and the $1 Billion cost formed a rumor that the WTC would be demolished rather than spend $1B trying to clean it up to meet the building code.

So based on that rumor the WTC was already wired and ready to take down way before 9/11.

I'm just saying this was the rumor at the time.
I can't verify the rumor, but I sure as hell heard it.

to be fair, your avatar and sig contain the most overtly nationalist shit i've probably ever seen used on the internet in a non-satirical manner

you should probably check out that "psychologists explain 9/11 denial" video provided by bft3k a few posts up

in a nutshell it describes how when something traumatic challenges your preconceived worldview an involuntary self-defense mechanism causes you to immediately dismiss all new contradictory information

on one hand, it would definitely be fucking crazy and seemingly impossible for the twin towers to have been secretly rigged to blow in the days, weeks or months leading up to 9/11, but on the other hand, not nearly as crazy as confidently believing with 100% certainty that you know one way or another what exactly happened on that day

a couple of the very few in number reasons i even entertain the possibility of there being more to the story is due to the inconsistencies with building 7 and how the airplane that hit the pentagon somehow landed a direct hit on the offices allegedly storing and researching the records of the reportedly missing $2.3 trillion dollars as announced to the world by rumsfeld only a day prior to 9/11

not to mention the perks of an obviously corrupt military industrial complex

serious $ was made after 9/11

definitely check this shit out man

https://youtube.com/watch?v=xJsi7SPBzfY

i'm so incredibly on the fence about the whole issue though

i seriously have no idea what happened

the more i look into it the more it appears plausible that all 3 buildings actually did collapse due to fire and weakened steel, and the pentagon $2.3t thing could either be a coincidence or even more likely the cia taking advantage of a shitty situation. just because certain elements of the government and military industrial complex may have benefited from the whole ordeal, it obviously doesn't necessarily mean they played a direct hand in it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v8sm2UacrSc

https://sphotos-b-lga.xx.fbcdn.net/h...27800573_n.jpg

Rogan's awesome...this is one of his best.

Good vid..thanks for sharing it.

BFT3K I have read a lot of your posts over the years...you ride that fuzzy line between sane clear thinking liberal and wackjob libertarian. I have often agreed with some of your political views and thought to myself - That fuckin BFT guy is pretty cool...not any more.

If you think there is even the slightest chance that those buildings were brought down by controlled demo then you are one gullible motherfucker, and calling that piece of garbage of a documentary a "Great Movie" puts you right up there with the all time classic dumbfucks on this board... Thats saying a lot because there are some real dumb asses on GFY. So you're in good company my man.

Don't feel bad - I understand what it means to be a stupid gullible motherfucker - I once saw a doc called "A funny thing happened on the way to the moon" and for about 2 weeks I firmly believed that the US never set foot on the moon. Then after I saw the solid facts that debunked the movie, and realized unequivocally that we did indeed travel to the moon and what a sucker I was for falling for that bullshit.

Dude stop being a sucker and falling for conspiracies that are such far reaching and impossible flights of fancy with no shred of evidence, stop embarrassing yourself.

As the saying goes... "absolute power corrupts absolutely." If you look back at Obama's positions on surveillance, terrorism, government trust issues, and so much more BEFORE he was president, versus his contrarian position to those very beliefs now, you have to wonder who really pulls the strings.

You can be a great guy and join the military, and you can be a great guy and want to be a cop, but your missions are never your own. You are working for the people who pull the strings. Even Obama and the talking heads over at MSNBC are not above their owners.



https://youtube.com/watch?v=qUkjIpgthWs

Thanks for the link

https://youtube.com/watch?v=7BmdovYztH8



https://youtube.com/watch?v=MXJd9pJliNo



https://youtube.com/watch?v=ZXEJrpoyUVU

From 1961...



https://youtube.com/watch?v=A_II0H7X5O4

And then, a few years later...



https://youtube.com/watch?v=utYcFf93Srs

This is a neat window into the mind of a duped conspiracy sucker.

"Sure as hell heard it" gives it that extra shot of credibility ...nice work.

YO CONSPIRACY THEORISTS - IT MUST OCCASIONALLY CROSS YOUR MIND THAT YOU ARE JUST A GULLIBLE SUCKER THAT FELL FOR A LINE OF CRAP RIGHT?

These hacked up joke of documentaries with all the wing nuts spewing fantasy facts and wild conjecture - you can sit there and WANT TO BELIEVE IT SOOO BAD.. but it will never make it true...You're just a sucker - you fell for it hook line and sinker and you love it....you LOVE to be fooled - it stimulates a part of your brain that releases dopamine and you just want more more more.

cough678

High Ranking US Major General Exposes September 11

That should be interesting

One of the good ones...



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuC_4mGTs98

Good times, good times...



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oPRILY10Ms4