The NRA Has Made It Harder To Connect Criminals To Their Weapons

[GrantMercury]

The struggle to figure out how Boston Marathon bombing suspects Tamerlan and Dzhokhar Tsarnaev obtained their weapons began almost immediately after the manhunt ended, but very little has yet been discovered, thanks in part to policies pushed by the NRA that obfuscate how a criminal gets his or her weapons.

While law enforcement has argued that it would be helpful to be able to trace weapons to their source, the National Rifle Association has led the charge against any laws that might make this possible. Here?s a look at how the NRA?s pet policies are working against the public good:

Guns are hard to trace.
Gunpowder is hard to trace.
Stolen weapons are hard to trace.
Police couldn?t detect a pattern of suspicious purchases.

http://thinkprogress.org/justice/201...nra/?mobile=nc

[DBS.US]

If the police knew where the bombers got their guns would it change anything?

[jreg81]

Bombers bomb a marathon, we blame the bombers, not the bomb.

But when a gunman shoots up a school, we blame the gun.

Makes perfect sense to me.

[GrantMercury]

If the police knew where the bombers got their guns would it change anything?

Yeah. They could bring the hammer down of the ones who sold them the weapons (provided they didn't do a check, first).

It seems the NRA is doing an excellent job of convincing people of the virtues of anarchy.

Everyone seems to have a "Hey, what does it matter?" attitude now. "Laws don't change anything. Why have laws"?

[GrantMercury]

Bombers bomb a marathon, we blame the bombers, not the bomb.

But when a gunman shoots up a school, we blame the gun.

Makes perfect sense to me.

So, tracking a gun to its source, after it's been used in a crime, is "blaming the gun"?

[Helix]

Why did the FBI let the older brother slip by? Many errors by the authorities, many missed opportunities, and even tips and communications by other countries intel to prevent this went ignored or were failed to act upon.
Look at the big picture.

[TheFootMan5]

What about the million dead in Iraq?

[2013]

blah blah blah

[bronco67]

If the police knew where the bombers got their guns would it change anything?

Not at this moment, but it might change something in the future.

[Robbie]

Here we go again....somebody please ban GrantMercury lol

[TheFootMan5]

Not at this moment, but it might change something in the future.

Where did the government get the guns to kill over a million in Iraq?

[StickyGreen]

Oh no... the big bad NRA...

[noshit]

Here we go again....somebody please ban GrantMercury lol

+ 1 The kid is in a state of reality denial; and a brain dead globalist favorite.
He doesn't realize he will eventually suffer the same fate as us fodder.

[brassmonkey]

real criminals dont use guns with numbers on them.

[GrantMercury]

Not at this moment, but it might change something in the future.

Bingo.

[GrantMercury]

+ 1 The kid is in a state of reality denial; and a brain dead globalist favorite.
He doesn't realize he will eventually suffer the same fate as us fodder.

What?

[L-Pink]

Give me a fucking break … Time to outlaw fireworks stands since the gunpowder probably came from firecrackers.

[GrantMercury]

Oh no... the big bad NRA...

Aka the gun lobby, the singular purpose of which is to make sure as many guns as possible are sold.

[GrantMercury]

Where did the government get the guns to kill over a million in Iraq?

From contractors, paid handsomely with our tax dollars. But what's your point?

[bronco67]

Aka the gun lobby, the singular purpose of which is to make sure as many guns as possible are sold.

haha yeah. The NRA's answer is to shoot their way out of the gun problem. It's idiotic.

The people at the top of that organization give every other gun owner a bad rep they don't deserve(most of of them).

[pornguy]

regardless of where the fun came from. legal or illegal, it was used in a crime. do you think that a back ground check is going to stop that?

Kind of like kids hanging out outside the beer store and getting an " adult " to buy them beer.

Where there is a will, there is a way.

[GrantMercury]

What about the million dead in Iraq?

It's horrible.

[GrantMercury]

regardless of where the fun came from. legal or illegal, it was used in a crime. do you think that a back ground check is going to stop that?

Kind of like kids hanging out outside the beer store and getting an " adult " to buy them beer.

Where there is a will, there is a way.

You didn't read the article.

[GrantMercury]

Why did the FBI let the older brother slip by? Many errors by the authorities, many missed opportunities, and even tips and communications by other countries intel to prevent this went ignored or were failed to act upon.
Look at the big picture.

What does any of that dubious information have to do with the topic?

[theking]

The struggle to figure out how Boston Marathon bombing suspects Tamerlan and Dzhokhar Tsarnaev obtained their weapons began almost immediately after the manhunt ended, but very little has yet been discovered, thanks in part to policies pushed by the NRA that obfuscate how a criminal gets his or her weapons.

While law enforcement has argued that it would be helpful to be able to trace weapons to their source, the National Rifle Association has led the charge against any laws that might make this possible. Here’s a look at how the NRA’s pet policies are working against the public good:

Guns are hard to trace.
Gunpowder is hard to trace.
Stolen weapons are hard to trace.
Police couldn’t detect a pattern of suspicious purchases.

http://thinkprogress.org/justice/201...nra/?mobile=nc

Guns are easy to trace to the original buyer if the serial numbers are intact...as they all have serial numbers...when they are sold. Once the original buyer is traced down they will have to provide an explanation as to what happened to their gun. Even if someone has attempted to get rid of serial numbers...just because you can no longer read the serial numbers with the naked eye...they still can sometimes be recovered.

[GrantMercury]

Guns are easy to trace to the original buyer if the serial numbers are intact...as they all have serial numbers...when they are sold. Once the original buyer is traced down they will have to provide an explanation as to what happened to their gun. Even if someone has attempted to get rid of serial numbers...just because you can no longer read the serial numbers with the naked eye...they still can sometimes be recovered.

I didn't know that. That's cool.

And how can they possibly defend being against gunpowder taggants? Apparently they were once a fairly reasonable organization. Now the NRA is just a bunch of blood merchants. Profit is their sole concern.

http://www.wbur.org/npr/178858037/ta...entify-bombers

[bronco67]

Doesn't Wayne Lapierre have the most punchable face ever?

[TheFootMan5]

Why are people so worried about a few people getting shot here and there when the government locks up millions and kills millions?

[TheFootMan5]

I didn't know that. That's cool.

And how can they possibly defend being against gunpowder taggants? Apparently they were once a fairly reasonable organization. Now the NRA is just a bunch of blood merchants. Profit is their sole concern.

http://www.wbur.org/npr/178858037/ta...entify-bombers

Guns don't kill people, governments do

[AaronM]

Yeah. They could bring the hammer down of the ones who sold them the weapons (provided they didn't do a check, first).

That's a pretty ignorant and inaccurate statement.

[TheFootMan5]

It's amazing how brainwashed so many people are

[GrantMercury]

That's a pretty ignorant and inaccurate statement.

Why?

[GrantMercury]

Why are people so worried about a few people getting shot here and there when the government locks up millions and kills millions?

Can't we worry about both?

[GrantMercury]

Doesn't Wayne Lapierre have the most punchable face ever?

It's right up there, that's for sure.

[GrantMercury]

regardless of where the fun came from. legal or illegal, it was used in a crime. do you think that a back ground check is going to stop that?

Kind of like kids hanging out outside the beer store and getting an " adult " to buy them beer.

Where there is a will, there is a way.

This is about tracking down criminals after the act has been committed. You'd agree that's important, right? I've learned not to make assumptions, so I'm asking.

The NRA has made that task more difficult for law enforcement. The NRA is a radical organization.

[StickyGreen]

This is about tracking down criminals after the act has been committed.

And the police seem to be doing that just fine... haven't you watched the First 48? lol

Wtf you so worried about? The cops are on the job bro... sit back and relax... we already have enough laws, it's illegal to shoot and kill someone...

[GrantMercury]

And the police seem to be doing that just fine... haven't you watched the First 48? lol

Wtf you so worried about? The cops are on the job bro... sit back and relax... we already have enough laws, it's illegal to shoot and kill someone...

Read the article. The NRA has made the jobs of law enforcement more difficult. You're ok with that why?

[seoxpertz]

Guns don't kill people. People kill people. If they don't have guns they will use knives. If they don't have knives, they will use sticks. And if they don't have sticks, I am sure they will find stones.

[Evil1]

Here we go again....somebody please ban GrantMercury lol

2nd'd, whoevers alt this is, it's getting boring.

[L-Pink]

Same shit over and over and over ………. We get it already, Republicans are evil and guns suck.

[DWB]

The NRA's answer is to shoot their way out of the gun problem. It's idiotic.

Sort of like borrowing your way out of debt?

[Robbie]

Read the article. The NRA has made the jobs of law enforcement more difficult. You're ok with that why?

"the jobs of law enforcement"?

Over the last couple of decades the Supreme Court has given cops the right to do any damn thing they want.

When I was younger...the cops could not search your car, could not search YOU unless they were arresting you, could not search your wife's purse, etc. , etc.

Now...in the name of the failed drug law (and now add in "terrorism") they can treat you like a dog and there's nothing you can do. If you even question "why" they are doing what they are doing you will be arrested of obstruction (and maybe get your ass beat down at the same time).

What a mental zombie you are GrantMercury. You just can't wait to give away the last few remaining rights you have as a citizen. You're almost giddy with anticipation.

Why?
You are so sure that "Big Brother" govt. has your best interests at heart and that all cops are "good" and looking out for you.

Can't wait until you get a nice dose of reality in the land of adults.

You are aware that the United States is NUMBER ONE for incarcerating it's own citizens. More than China. More than Cuba. More than North Korea. More than any country in history.

We live in a country where the prison industry is big business. And yet you don't think the cops already arrest enough people. What an idiot.

[Robbie]

Read this GrantMercury.

Wise up and realize that the greediest and worst people on Earth are in our govt.

http://thinkprogress.org/justice/201...try/?mobile=nc

[L-Pink]

As far as your always slanted opinion goes, the NRA hasn't "Made It Harder" to do anything. They oppose any changes in existing regulations.

[pornmasta]

i loled at the title. Here is why:

[Vendzilla]

Why is it when every attack made by a criminal, people call to have rights taken away?

Which in the end is what the criminals want

[GrantMercury]

Guns don't kill people. People kill people.

Therefore, people who want to buy guns should be checked. Simple.

[GrantMercury]

Same shit over and over and over ???. We get it already, Republicans are evil and guns suck.

Is that what the article says?

[GrantMercury]

2nd'd, whoevers alt this is, it's getting boring.

It's a shame there aren't other threads on GFY for you to read.

[GrantMercury]

"the jobs of law enforcement"?

Over the last couple of decades the Supreme Court has given cops the right to do any damn thing they want.

When I was younger...the cops could not search your car, could not search YOU unless they were arresting you, could not search your wife's purse, etc. , etc.

Now...in the name of the failed drug law (and now add in "terrorism") they can treat you like a dog and there's nothing you can do. If you even question "why" they are doing what they are doing you will be arrested of obstruction (and maybe get your ass beat down at the same time).

What a mental zombie you are GrantMercury. You just can't wait to give away the last few remaining rights you have as a citizen. You're almost giddy with anticipation.

Why?
You are so sure that "Big Brother" govt. has your best interests at heart and that all cops are "good" and looking out for you.

Can't wait until you get a nice dose of reality in the land of adults.

You are aware that the United States is NUMBER ONE for incarcerating it's own citizens. More than China. More than Cuba. More than North Korea. More than any country in history.

We live in a country where the prison industry is big business. And yet you don't think the cops already arrest enough people. What an idiot.

Because we incarcerate too many people in America, and the cops get away with more now than they used to as a result of a right-leaning SCOTUS...you think its good that as a result of NRA lobbying it's more difficult to trace weapons and gunpowder after a crime has been committed? That makes total sense. Brilliant.