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ludballs 04-18-2013 10:06 AM

Thats is some crazy messed up shit! :(

CyberHustler 04-18-2013 10:09 AM


dyna mo 04-18-2013 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by _Richard_ (Post 19584230)
be careful, they'll hunt you down screaming 'conspiracy theorist'.. especially if you start talking about WHY these guys were so pissed off.. that info doesn't even begin to cover it

actually, there is a fantastic doc on waco that chronicles how fucked up the atf and the fbi handled this. it is well-done



don't get me wrong, the branch-davidians were responsible as well, but a lot of americans are very aware of what the government did there. but it's a big step to assume at this stage that what happened last night is related.

crockett 04-18-2013 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Verbal (Post 19584118)
The Oklahoma City bombing was on April 19, 1995 on the anniversary of the final assault on the Branch Davidians in Waco Texas ... a mere miles from the same type of explosion on almost the exact 20 year anniversary.

I'm by NO means a conspiracy theorist, but it can't be a coincidence.

Witness already have come forward and said there had been a strong amoena smell previously that had been complained about and the night of the explosion it was very strong. The plant even lied on it's EPA application stating that nothing explosive would be stored.

Put the conspiracy hat back on, this is just the same shit that has happened in Texas in the past. They have had more than their fair share of chemical & refinery plant explosions in Texas.

This points the ugly finger at a Conservative state that thinks the "govt" puts up too much red tape and we don't need no stinking EPA. Texas is lax on it's regulations around these plants which is why so many of them are in Texas.

When shit like this happens it's gone an forgotten with nothing changing and we wait til the next one goes up in a big bang, next year or the year after.

This one was in Oct of 2011, it's a very common occurrence in Texas..



Oh and another...



and a long list of others.. but hey they don't need no stinkin regulations in Texas, don't mind the smoke people the fire will go out soon!

Best-In-BC 04-18-2013 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by sarettah (Post 19583724)
Hmmm... add in "accidental" explosion that looks like a small nuclear bomb.

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lol, yep, and any explosion I guess to you looks like a small nuke, lol, small nuke

crockett 04-18-2013 12:18 PM

Only in Texas do they allow a fertilizer plant to be only thousand feet away from a middle school, a nursing home less than 800 feet away and a hospital about 1200 feet. Not to mention houses everywhere in between. Yet a second school just over 1500 feet away.

Fucking idiots.

http://i.i.com.com/cnwk.1d/i/tim/201..._blast_map.jpg

This is proof of darwinism right here folks..

dyna mo 04-18-2013 12:21 PM

lol, i grew up in houston/pasadena too, the lack of zoning is insane. need a parking lot? no worries, tear down that 100 year old church and pave away!

Cherry7 04-18-2013 12:24 PM

Goes to show that unregulated capitalism beats terrorism everyday !

The free market really works

_Richard_ 04-18-2013 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 19584514)
actually, there is a fantastic doc on waco that chronicles how fucked up the atf and the fbi handled this. it is well-done



don't get me wrong, the branch-davidians were responsible as well, but a lot of americans are very aware of what the government did there. but it's a big step to assume at this stage that what happened last night is related.

yea they were responsible, sure, but that's said by the people who said they fired first, while the metal door has only bullet holes/char marks on the outside of the door

i was under the impression the USA was home for all creeds

Verbal 04-18-2013 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Cherry7 (Post 19584799)
Goes to show that unregulated capitalism beats terrorism everyday !

The free market really works

Good one

_Richard_ 04-18-2013 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 19584784)
Only in Texas do they allow a fertilizer plant to be only thousand feet away from a middle school, a nursing home less than 800 feet away and a hospital about 1200 feet. Not to mention houses everywhere in between. Yet a second school just over 1500 feet away.

Fucking idiots.

http://i.i.com.com/cnwk.1d/i/tim/201..._blast_map.jpg

This is proof of darwinism right here folks..

yea look how far the commute was.. i can't wait for big business to totally deregulate everything, so that could be smack in the middle!

think of how environmentally sound that be

50 sad commentaries

dyna mo 04-18-2013 12:35 PM

think that's bad?


The Most Dangerous Nuclear Plant in America Is About 30 Miles From New York City
http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer...clear_pla.html

fitzmulti 04-18-2013 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 19584825)
think that's bad?


The Most Dangerous Nuclear Plant in America Is About 30 Miles From New York City
http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer...clear_pla.html

Wild....

_Richard_ 04-18-2013 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 19584825)
think that's bad?


The Most Dangerous Nuclear Plant in America Is About 30 Miles From New York City
http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer...clear_pla.html

well..

the technology/engineering used to build fukushima is basically all over the world

Barry-xlovecam 04-18-2013 07:00 PM

http://media.oregonlive.com/oregonia...7342-essay.jpg

More aerial pictures: http://photos.oregonlive.com/photo-e...ge_by_fer.html

Didn't see these posted in here ...


fitzmulti 04-18-2013 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam (Post 19585556)

Insane destruction...

Mr Pheer 04-19-2013 01:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Verbal (Post 19584118)
The Oklahoma City bombing was on April 19, 1995 on the anniversary of the final assault on the Branch Davidians in Waco Texas ... a mere miles from the same type of explosion on almost the exact 20 year anniversary.

I'm by NO means a conspiracy theorist, but it can't be a coincidence.

I got out of the Army on April 19, 1997 and I'm from Texas. Timothy mcVeigh was once in the Army. My friend Jill is getting married (today) on April 19, 2013. She was in the Army with me.

Think it's all related? :uhoh

BlackCrayon 04-19-2013 03:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Verbal (Post 19584141)





MOTIVATION


The chief conspirators, Timothy McVeigh and Terry Nichols, met in 1988 at Fort Benning during basic training for the U.S. Army.[17] Michael Fortier, McVeigh's accomplice, was his Army roommate.[18] The three shared interests in survivalism and opposed gun control.[19][20] They expressed anger at the federal government's handling of the 1992 Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) standoff with Randy Weaver at Ruby Ridge as well as the Waco Siege?a 1993 51-day standoff between the FBI and Branch Davidian members which began with a botched ATF attempt to execute a search warrant leading to a fire fight (it is unknown whether ATF agents or Branch Davidians fired the first shot) and ended with the burning and shooting deaths of David Koresh and 75 others.[21] In March 1993, McVeigh visited the Waco site during the standoff, and then again after its conclusion.[22] McVeigh later decided to bomb a federal building as a response to the raids.

MATERIAL

McVeigh and Nichols purchased or stole the materials they needed to manufacture the bomb, which they stored in rented sheds. In August 1994, McVeigh obtained nine Kinestiks from gun collector Roger E. Moore, and ignited the devices with Nichols outside Nichols' home in Herington, Kansas.[34][35] On September 30, 1994, Nichols bought forty 50-pound (23 kg) bags of ammonium nitrate from Mid-Kansas Coop in McPherson, Kansas, this would be enough to fertilize 4.25 acres of farmland at a rate of 160 pounds of nitrogen per acre; an amount commonly used for corn {2000 pounds of AN divided by (160 lb/acre divided by 0.34 lb N/lb AN) equals 4.25 acres}. Nichols bought an additional 50-pound (23 kg) bag on October 18, 1994.[23] McVeigh approached Fortier and asked him to assist with the bombing project, but he refused.

please tell me what blowing up a fertilizer plant has to do this with? good god its sad how people want to connect everything.

Verbal 04-19-2013 03:54 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackCrayon (Post 19586010)
please tell me what blowing up a fertilizer plant has to do this with? good god its sad how people want to connect everything.

Fuck off! Read the thread you twat ... and don't group me with those other idiots.

BlackCrayon 04-19-2013 04:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Verbal (Post 19586018)
Fuck off! Read the thread you twat ... and don't group me with those other idiots.

i did. so its near waco and near the date of the waco thing so it must be connected? accidents do happen you know. a fertilizer plant blowing up isn't all that surprising. now had there been an explosion somewhere you wouldn't expect it, perhaps. i am sure there are some nutbars out there who choose certain dates to do things but i don't see it on this one. if what you claim is true, they sure were lazy bastards but what i see is just an industrial accident.

Verbal 04-19-2013 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackCrayon (Post 19586035)
i did. so its near waco and near the date of the waco thing so it must be connected? accidents do happen you know. a fertilizer plant blowing up isn't all that surprising. now had there been an explosion somewhere you wouldn't expect it, perhaps. i am sure there are some nutbars out there who choose certain dates to do things but i don't see it on this one. if what you claim is true, they sure were lazy bastards but what i see is just an industrial accident.

I was talking about Timothy McVeigh who used the same type of fertilizer to blow up the Oklahoma federal building in part for the retaliation of what happened in Waco.

I understand accidents happen and I understand their are coincidences. I was merely pointing out that that there were quite a few VERY interesting commonalities to this event including the location, type of explosion and it being almost EXACTLY 20 years to the date of the FBI raid of the Branch Davidians.

cthulhu_waves 04-19-2013 09:17 AM

The death toll from the explosion at the plant in Texas is now at 12. What is truly astounding about that is 11 of those are first responders, volunteer firefighters who responded to the initial fire that probably lead to the explosion. 11 individuals who made the decision to make sure they saved as many lives as they could without regard to how much danger they themselves were in. Tragic, to be sure, but also amazing and inspirational.


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