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Old 03-07-2013, 08:29 AM   #1
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What the hell is going on with CCBill?

For years now i've been trundling along as an affiliate with ratios of around 1:1000 to 1:1500 but in the last few months it has shot up to 1:2700 and this month i'm on 1:4500!!
Whats going on there?
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Old 03-07-2013, 08:30 AM   #2
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Somethings not right, for me December and January were superb, but I'm seeing some odd ratios this month
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Old 03-07-2013, 09:38 AM   #3
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Old 03-07-2013, 09:39 AM   #4
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I have to admit, I'm not seeing a lot of affiliate sales so far this week, But our sales are way up!

So I'm guessing it's not a ccbill thing.

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Old 03-07-2013, 09:43 AM   #5
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January and first half of feb were great, ever since its been mediocre as hell
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Old 03-07-2013, 09:51 AM   #6
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I have to admit, I'm not seeing a lot of affiliate sales so far this week, But our sales are way up!

So I'm guessing it's not a ccbill thing.
Tracking problem perhaps...
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Old 03-07-2013, 10:05 AM   #7
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yes ccbill sales have seriously went to SHIT
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Maybe Swirlscunt can come in this thread to explain what is going on.
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Old 03-07-2013, 10:11 AM   #9
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Maybe Swirlscunt can come in this thread to explain what is going on.
I was just about to post that!
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yes ccbill sales have seriously went to SHIT
who is Glamour.biz in your sig? I don't see any adult design work in their portfolio.
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I was just about to post that!
But as always you're a bit slow
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Sales will go up as soon as another 10,000 of you asswipes start more free tube sites.

Free porn = more porn sales... in Bizarro World.

I know I like to pay for things that I can get for free....
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Old 03-07-2013, 10:20 AM   #13
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i think its the tube sites affecting your sales
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Old 03-07-2013, 11:33 AM   #14
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who is Glamour.biz in your sig? I don't see any adult design work in their portfolio.
he just sold his sig yesterday,it doesnt matter everything else
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It's getting very scary. My primary ccbill sponsor has gone from averaging 1 sale per day to 1 sale per week for the last 3 weeks.
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Bad sales? OMG it MUST be the credit card processors fault. It can't possibly be a change in advertising, or a change in content, or a change in customer tastes, or a change in a competing website's advertising / content / pricing, or slow server response / ping times, or it can't possibly be customers max-ed out credit cards, or job losses, or buyers remorse, or change in home / work / porn-consumption environment (kids home, wifey home), or change in spending habbits, or other commitments such as work, school, or the fact that spring time is almost here so more people are outside (spring skiing, anyone?) or the fact that it is the beginning of March break.

Yup. Just throw up your hands and blame the billing provider (who only makes 14.5% which is alot less to lose than you) instead of working to find out what else could have possibly changed.
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Bad sales? OMG it MUST be the credit card processors fault. It can't possibly be a change in advertising, or a change in content, or a change in customer tastes, or a change in a competing website's advertising / content / pricing, or slow server response / ping times, or it can't possibly be customers max-ed out credit cards, or job losses, or buyers remorse, or change in home / work / porn-consumption environment (kids home, wifey home), or change in spending habbits, or other commitments such as work, school, or the fact that spring time is almost here so more people are outside (spring skiing, anyone?) or the fact that it is the beginning of March break.

Yup. Just throw up your hands and blame the billing provider (who only makes 14.5% which is alot less to lose than you) instead of working to find out what else could have possibly changed.
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Sales will go up as soon as another 10,000 of you asswipes start more free tube sites.

Free porn = more porn sales... in Bizarro World.

I know I like to pay for things that I can get for free....
I buy a membership to a site, when I think I am missing one Video from the full site on a tube..


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Where is roganoli to tell everyone to only push ccbill programs and keep all your eggs in one basket?
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Sales will go up as soon as another 10,000 of you asswipes start more free tube sites.

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I know I like to pay for things that I can get for free....
Like water. People pay for it, yet it literally just falls from the sky.
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1:5500 now. something really isn't right at ccbill.
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Bad sales? OMG it MUST be the credit card processors fault. It can't possibly be a change in advertising, or a change in content, or a change in customer tastes, or a change in a competing website's advertising / content / pricing, or slow server response / ping times, or it can't possibly be customers max-ed out credit cards, or job losses, or buyers remorse, or change in home / work / porn-consumption environment (kids home, wifey home), or change in spending habbits, or other commitments such as work, school, or the fact that spring time is almost here so more people are outside (spring skiing, anyone?) or the fact that it is the beginning of March break.

Yup. Just throw up your hands and blame the billing provider (who only makes 14.5% which is alot less to lose than you) instead of working to find out what else could have possibly changed.
Newsflash... sometimes it IS the processor, for obvious reasons. And your bracketed statement in the last sentence makes zero sense.
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Weird day for me today. Most the time i got a sale for every 1-2 click on my form since I dont push the form to my visitor and they know the price before they get there. Today I have 22 click on the form and 0 sales. Weird day.
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For years now i've been trundling along as an affiliate with ratios of around 1:1000 to 1:1500 but in the last few months it has shot up to 1:2700 and this month i'm on 1:4500!!
Whats going on there?
get a fucking clue and stop dealing with them
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Our systems are not showing any issues at this time. If you would like to discuss this further, feel free to email me.

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(This is not a real response, I'm just pre-empting it.)
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Only problem is they don't really reply to anything anymore. Seem to be on cruise control.
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Weird day for me today. Most the time i got a sale for every 1-2 click on my form since I dont push the form to my visitor and they know the price before they get there. Today I have 22 click on the form and 0 sales. Weird day.
Is Saturday looking better?
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I see outgoing hits on my stats that go to ccbill sponsors and I dont see the clicks on ccbill end...a click is a click right?
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i am more concerned that i have the same guy subscribing with stolen cards for the 3rd or 4th time now and despite a couple of denials that precede each sale, he manages to get through and the password is immediately shared - which Strongbox kills after a bit.

and when i ask to refund the card, I am the one that should identify myself with my SSN. I think there are a few things mixed up.
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i am more concerned that i have the same guy subscribing with stolen cards for the 3rd or 4th time now and despite a couple of denials that precede each sale, he manages to get through and the password is immediately shared - which Strongbox kills after a bit.

and when i ask to refund the card, I am the one that should identify myself with my SSN. I think there are a few things mixed up.
We are having same scenario. Ask ccbill for the IP and get back to me if you want. We tracked him a bit with the help of an ISP.
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We are having same scenario. Ask ccbill for the IP and get back to me if you want. We tracked him a bit with the help of an ISP.
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the email usually bounces, i dont know how still the subscription can go through

and the IP changes all the time - at least faster than i can block them
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and i dont know why it says on every signup form "your IP is recorded in case of fraud", but NEVER anything is actually done
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and i dont know why it says on every signup form "your IP is recorded in case of fraud", but NEVER anything is actually done
Probably using a proxy anyway. Thats how the IPs change so fast. Good chance they probably wont even be from the same country.
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maybe i should take that as a compliment for our content
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the email usually bounces, i dont know how still the subscription can go through

and the IP changes all the time - at least faster than i can block them
The host, a VPN in CZ, claims its a Nigerian hacker who hacked one of his clients accounts.
They supposedly shut down the service. I wonder if the host is actually involved. Since our cases involve stolen credit cards I told them I was forwarding to the fbi.
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The host, a VPN in CZ, claims its a Nigerian hacker who hacked one of his clients accounts.
They supposedly shut down the service. I wonder if the host is actually involved. Since our cases involve stolen credit cards I told them I was forwarding to the fbi.
if they are in cz they probably dont give 2 fucks about the fbi.
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if they are in cz they probably dont give 2 fucks about the fbi.
That would be their mistake.
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What were your ratios in January and February? How many chargebacks have you had this year?

So far in March my ratios are well down too.
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What were your ratios in January and February? How many chargebacks have you had this year?

So far in March my ratios are well down too.
1:2000 in jan and feb so it has been slowly rising but this month is a huge leap. No chargebacks or credits though.
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yesterday 1:331 ,sales started coming in in a same way they were not coming in previous periods.
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Old 03-10-2013, 06:48 AM   #50
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Is Saturday looking better?
yes really saturday I did get 6 sales at 1/190 thing are back to normal
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