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i gotta say, though she is not at all in my music genre - i saw her on SNL a few weeks ago (or so) and she is fantastic live. her voice is very strong and stable, she projects well. i was impressed.
Last winter/spring I heard 'Complicated' for the first time, I didn't have a clue who sang it, how old she was, was she cute, whether the singer wrote the song, who produced it - all I knew is that is was one of the best pop songs I had heard in a very long time, pop music is it's own genre, you can mock it but it's as much a craft as any other artistic endeavour.
Is she a record company's invention, totally fabricated by the machine run by middle aged music biz weasels? Probably. If so they've done a great job. I give them all props.
As for Avril herself, she does the job, pop singers don't need great voices. She has the voice that fits her music perfectly. She sounded like shit tonight performing live but I've seen her on AOL doing an acoustic session and she has a nice passable voice for a teenaged girl. She could be in 'Annie' or any of those type of Broadway musicals, it's that type of voice. She got lucky, somebody saw the raw material to create Sk8Ter GRRL, and a year later she is the most famous Canadian on the planet.
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Originally posted by Mutt Last winter/spring I heard 'Complicated' for the first time, I didn't have a clue who sang it, how old she was, was she cute, whether the singer wrote the song, who produced it - all I knew is that is was one of the best pop songs I had heard in a very long time, pop music is it's own genre, you can mock it but it's as much a craft as any other artistic endeavour.
Is she a record company's invention, totally fabricated by the machine run by middle aged music biz weasels? Probably. If so they've done a great job. I give them all props.
As for Avril herself, she does the job, pop singers don't need great voices. She has the voice that fits her music perfectly. She sounded like shit tonight performing live but I've seen her on AOL doing an acoustic session and she has a nice passable voice for a teenaged girl. She could be in 'Annie' or any of those type of Broadway musicals, it's that type of voice. She got lucky, somebody saw the raw material to create Sk8Ter GRRL, and a year later she is the most famous Canadian on the planet.
I didn't listen to her live tonight, but I've heard her live in the past - she can't sing. She's flat all over the place on her own damn song. There was obviously some serious "SnapTune (tm)" action going on in that studio.
oh she was flat tonight, I've heard her better live but maybe the nerves got to her or maybe on Saturday Night Live and those AOL sessions she was helped by whatever digital audio wizadry.
she ain't Arethra Franklin or Janis Joplin, she's a perfectly little packaged pop star. Most likely gone in a year or two like the hundreds before her.
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Originally posted by dav555add she can't sing and they're making her like the greatest invention since pepto bismol... what the fuck is wrong ??
i dunno, she prolly enjoys getting gangbanged in the ass by the rest of her band...
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aren't 12 year olds allowed to have their own music heroes? i really don't think the people who created her had 30 year old guys in mind as their target market for her.
she did suck bad tonight tho, lip synching should be mandatory for her but so should it be for half the bands i've seen live in my life.
i'd love a piece of the Avril franchise. How much u wanna bet that there's a Saturday morning cartoon in the works with little Avril and her Sk8tr boi pals fighting crime?
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She is the epitome of all that is wrong with the world.
Its force fed soulless consumerism at its finest. Anyone that supports her has displayed a total disregard for reality and lives a sheltered pre packaged life that should lead any rational person to committ suicide.
faux pop angry 18 year old chick rage is the single handed biggest load of horse shit anyone can push on another human being. I consider anyone trying to convince me that it is anything other than absolute and complete shit, an act of violence.
Avril is the reason terrorists hate America. Avril is the reason Americans die. And if you like Avril, I sincerely hope you die. From the bottom of my heart.
Originally posted by [Labret] She is the epitome of all that is wrong with the world.
Its force fed soulless comsumerism at its finest. Anyone that supports her has displayed a total disregard for reality and lives a sheltered pre packaged life that should lead any rational person to committ suicide.
faux pop angry 18 year old chick rage is the single handed biggest load of horse shit anyone can push on another human being. I consider anyone trying to convince me that it is anything other than absolute and complete shit, an act of violence.
Avril is the reason terrorists hate America. Avril is the reason Americans die. And if you like Avril, I sincerely hope you die. From the bottom of my heart.
HAHAH you were on it untill you mentioned terorists
Originally posted by CrazyNakedChick i gotta say, though she is not at all in my music genre - i saw her on SNL a few weeks ago (or so) and she is fantastic live. her voice is very strong and stable, she projects well. i was impressed.
having said that, i'd hit it.
I saw her at a local radio concert last year. She sucks live...She was not the band that we went to see but anyways she is a studio performer. ugghhhh
aren't you people sick and tired yet of the "process cheese" music the industry is grinding out
i could have played all the instruments and recorded the song No Doubt performed when i was twelve
I'm not talking about No Doubt I am talking about Eminem.
And her only talent is in singing, not song writing or producing. Eminem wrote all of his songs, produced or co-produced all of his songs and outsold this girl yet she gets the Grammy.
Originally posted by [Labret] She is the epitome of all that is wrong with the world.
Its force fed soulless consumerism at its finest. Anyone that supports her has displayed a total disregard for reality and lives a sheltered pre packaged life that should lead any rational person to committ suicide.
faux pop angry 18 year old chick rage is the single handed biggest load of horse shit anyone can push on another human being. I consider anyone trying to convince me that it is anything other than absolute and complete shit, an act of violence.
Avril is the reason terrorists hate America. Avril is the reason Americans die. And if you like Avril, I sincerely hope you die. From the bottom of my heart.
The fact that she evokes such strong and angry emotions from you simply justifies her being. I don't consider her a good artist, but if her sheer existance can provoke someone to write such an emotional and intricate description of why she sucks, then she's accomplished her goal albeit it unintentional or unwarranted.
You've just validated her reason for being, and justified her fans for liking her.
I'm not talking about No Doubt I am talking about Eminem.
And her only talent is in singing, not song writing or producing. Eminem wrote all of his songs, produced or co-produced all of his songs and outsold this girl yet she gets the Grammy.
Come Away With Me reveals her estimable skills as a songwriter and arranger. Norah composed the title song Come Away With Me, Nightingale, and she co-wrote The Long Day Is Over. She's both the vocalist and pianist.
The fact that she evokes such strong and angry emotions from you simply justifies her being. I don't consider her a good artist, but if her sheer existance can provoke someone to write such an emotional and intricate description of why she sucks, then she's accomplished her goal albeit it unintentional or unwarranted.
You've just validated her reason for being, and justified her fans for liking her.
Bravo!
I dont know to find sadder. The fact that you think what I wrote was somehow some impassioned plea on my behalf, when it was nothing more than stoned stream of consciousness rambling... or that you think a persons worth can be determined by how many people hate you. Her fans like her because someone like me hates her? Who gives a rats ass what a 13 year old girl thinks. And seriously, if you are a grown man who can somehow empathize with the message and style of a 18 year old corporate advertisement that sings songs written by think tanks of old men... then you should fucking die. die die die die, I hope you fucking die. You are not a human being, you are a fucking corporate drone hellbent on consuming whatever they convince your feeble ass to gobble down.
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