a question about gun laws and regulation:

Before that we need protection from the mentally ill. This is where the problem is. Shooters become a criminal the moment they shoot someone. However, they are mentally ill long before then.

Yet the crime rate - always historically higher than most cities - continues to enact more laws and watches the crime rate come down.

Perhaps we should discuss this.

I honestly believe that when the 2nd Amendment was written, firearms were a requirement. Law enforcement was spotty at best, and there was no such thing as animal control. We also didn't have a military, and relied on the militia to protect our country and our government.

None of these reasons exist any more. Law enforcement is a short phone call away, we don't worry much about cougars and bears, and we have the strongest military in the world. At the same time, violent crime in the United States continues to fall.

This is what politicians do.

And this a part of the problem - not just with firearms but in general. Instead of being proactive, they wait until something happens then over react.

I have firearms but if the government took them away in the morning I would quickly get over it.

Honestly, I am much more concerned about people's driving habits than firearms. The odds of some jack ass hitting me "by accident" is 100%, while the odds of someone invading my house are like .000006%.

Yep, getting killed in an automobile dwarfs everything else statistics-wise.

But being concerned about it is a waste of time. Just like it's a waste of time being concerned about gun control or where lightning might strike, etc.

We can try to make things better of course, but govt. always seems to overreach and use tragedies to their advantage to pursue agendas that we don't even know about.

My personal feeling is that people should worry more about their own behavior...and law enforcement should be used to arrest someone after they do a crime.

All this stuff of trying to predict crimes and stop them ahead of time reminds me of that movie "Minority Report".
Preemptive moves rarely work out the way people intend. (just look at the Iraq war for instance).

I say...IF somebody kills somebody, THEN arrest them and hold that person responsible for what he did. Right now it seems to me that there is a line of thinking that is heading towards trying to preemptively stop crimes before they happen.

I don't think that will work, and the end result will be even more govt. control over our lives. (which is why I say just repeal the 2nd amendment and be done with it IF that's what our society has decided needs to be done).

The politically correct term "distracted driving" is bullshit. No one needs to use a cell phone/text while driving. If anything needs regulated it's the use of electronics in an automobile when attention should be focused on driving.

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Yeah, but auto accidents have always been huge. Doesn't matter if you're distracted or not. Since I was a kid the roads have been dangerous and that was long before cellphones. That's just the way it is when you are driving a hunk of metal at high speeds. Shit happens.

They already have laws against using your cell phone in the car (at least here they do). But what's next? Hell, I've almost had a wreck changing the station on my radio before. I've also swerved around a little bit when I forgot to put my seat belt on and had to try to put it on while driving.

Stupid shit just happens. We try to avoid it the best we can.

Of course the govt. takes these laws (like seatbelts and cellphones in cars) and turns them into revenue streams. That's when it all goes south.

Guns don't kill people, children do:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/nation...695_story.html

That's got to suck...

Bullshit.

Form 4473, Section 12, paragraph F.

If anybody is responsible for him owning a gun, it's the people who know he shouldn't and fail to report it.

depends on lifestyle Robbie, just like gun violence, other than random whack jobs and mass shootings...

I'm almost of the belief that the need to be a politician is a mental illness. think about it, the 'need' to dominate and control other...and most politicians are sociopathic as well as dishonest as the day is long from what I can tell...

pretty sure there is no mandate in the police agency's to protect, only to enforce. you'll notice the cops are now referred to as 'law enforcement' these days... the 'peace officer' days are long gone... kinda like bums are now homeless and illegals are now undocumented...

just as the days of 'personal responsibility are long gone with the influx of minority culture in modern society changing the perspectives to 'you owe me and you'll will take care of me and I demand respect' which replaced the personal responsibility that earlier generations were founded on.

one day I was messing around online and I came across last meals of executed prisoners... and one thing that really stood out to me was that in ALMOST every case of a death penalty, the condemned man had been in prison for man slaughter and had been released.

So why do they want to prevent Iran, NK, Venezuela, Cuba, etc ( all your dangerous ennemies ) from having nukes ??? Should not be a problem .. nukes are inert objects ...


.. don`t even try to go there ... some people here saw some of my bank accounts balances ... aside from my real estate holdings ...

To piss you off more, I will be vacationing in Cuba in 2 weeks ... as my 3 weeks in Florida ( feb-march) were pretty awfull due to lousy weather ...

You should get back to work , rent is coming soon ...

doesn't matter to me what you do or where go... what you have and what you don't.. . you seriously think your that special that I give a fuck about you, other than wishing you the best? your might want to consider professional help 'bro' and from the 2 post in this thread I can 'see' that you certainly have an average at best thought process