a question about gun laws and regulation:

Nuclear bombs are inanimate objects. Should everyone on the planet be allowed to have those too?

brilliant analytical mind you have there...

A large percentage of both auto and firearm injuries/deaths are committed by repeat offenders. Habitual drunks and habitual criminals. Solve this obvious problem before coming after and legislating against ordinary citizens.


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very good point however that would take an actual solution which isn't really politically expedient, and really doesn't jive with the common narrative

On this we agree GS

If you think the war on drugs is a success yer gonna love the war on guns

We have zero protections in place when it comes to firearms. None.

I have a friend of mine who suffers from Hydrocephalus. He has had a dozen brain surgeries in the past twenty years, is partially mentally retarded, is on a dozen different medications because of his "headaches" and diabetes, and has been seeing a therapist for depression for the past ten years - two failed marriages, two kids who live in a foreign country that he never sees, constantly broke, unable to work, no friends.... And no one questioned anything when he went and bought an AR15.

How is that possible?

Then now that he has the firepower no one wants to go to the local police department and say anything. I've had this discussion with his family. No one wants to call the local police and say "He's depressed and on tons of medication and might be a problem" - No one wants the police to show up at his doorstep to interview him and potentially list him as being a "threat to society" or locking him up in a mental ward. Everyone is just hoping he doesn't do anything to hurt anyone.

This scares the piss out of me. I honestly believe there are a lot of people who live on the edge of society, giving off the appearance that they are "perfectly normal" when in truth they barely have the IQ required to function as an adult. They are partially retarded, and some of them are armed. What's even worse is that we allow these people to drive - my friend john has had four accidents in three years (more than I've had my entire life!) and says "Not my fault they hit me".

How many people live in society acting like they are perfectly normal but aren't. A local friend of mine has a kid who is partially retarded. He lives in an assisted living facility, but has a real job. He is not allowed to drive. He seems like a nice kid - he's twenty-one or so - and we were all surprised when he got a girlfriend. We were even more surprised when he beat the crap out of her for no reason. Imagine if he was armed - and there is nothing stopping him from buying a firearm.

With driving, if you have a problem with driving while intoxicated we will take away your driver's license. That's common sense. If you have a problem with drugs or drinking, you shouldn't be allowed to own a firearm. At the same time, if you have a problem with violence, a temper, or any mental health issues, you shouldn't be allowed to own a firearm.

Common sense.

The NRA fucked us. After that school shooting their only response was "guards in schools". Nothing about expanding background requirements to include mental health issues. The end result is CT is about to pass a law that will punish gun owners.

I agree and yet the politicians insist on punishing the innocent...

why don't you get involved? say something to someone who can do something?



yes politicians get more votes pretending to resolve issues than actually resolving issues... gun murder is a HUMAN issue not a MECHANICAL issue yet no one wants to deal with the problem in a reality based way

well not so sure about getting fucked by them Richard. it was pointed out that ex cops could do the job and it would be cheaper than trying to implement harsher gun regulations that won't actually be effective anyway HOEWEVER the real issue to me, is blaming inanimate object for human behavior and then trying to legislate that away. it's complete bullshit. like saying are pedophiles working in porn to pass regulations to try and put us out of business when we both know the pedophiles are in church's, schools and other areas with access to children... there are no kinds in porn, hence no pedophiles.

another example is rape in Islamic countries. she is a woman and no man was there so I raped her. I had no choice...

Get involved and do what? The only thing we can do is make a comment to the local police. At that point they would have to assess his mental health - which might require an over night stay at the local hospital. They might take his firearms away from him - he has a Glock and an AR15 - or they might decide he needs to be living in assisted living or worse.

No matter what happens, I've lost a friend. The mother is 89 years old and say she just says "Oh, that's John being John" and in the mean he decorates his house like a fourteen year old. His brothers and sisters don't want to face the chance of him being institutionalized.

My friend is really sad, and he's gotten a lot worse in the past ten years. He used to be able to hide his issues but he can't any longer. Any discussion past who the President is and he's lost. If you ask him about North Korea he'll have no clue, and when you ask him about 9/11 he'll say "that's sad" but couldn't tell you airplanes were involved. He has a 50/50 chance of remembering what day of the week it is. His brain shut down in the 1970s and that's all he'll ever know. Any time he gets confused, he'll talk about his ex-wife and his kids - whom has hasn't seen in ten years.

Not at all. Instead of even having a discussion about mental health or new guns, they only said "guards in schools". No discussion about who is going to pay for this, the dangers of having kids surrounded by armed guards, or the fact that during school shootings where guards are present it doesn't change anything.

They had armed guards at Columbine, spent a fortune for them, and at the end of day it failed to help in any way.

There was no chance of any discussion coming out of the NRA. At the very least we can all agree that people with mental health issues should be restricted from having firearms, but the NRA refused to even discuss it. Now the government is going to do what it wants without any input from the NRA.

The NRA used to be about gun safety. Now the NRA gets it's money from the gun industry. They are less interested in gun safety, and much more interested in putting armed guards in school - more training, more guns, and more people being paid to carry guns. Win win for the NRA.

Rochard you said we have no "protection" against firearms.

I think GrapeSoda is pointing out that we don't NEED protection against a gun. We need protection against CRIMINALS.

And criminals will get a gun anytime they want one no matter what the law is...they are criminals.

As I keep saying...if our society has decided that we should disarm the population, then Congress should repeal the 2nd Amendment. That's part of their job.

In the meantime you have politicians trying to get face time on t.v. by enacting gun laws that will eventually be found to be unconstitutional in the end.

So just change the constitution.

Personally I don't care one way or another...except that until they change the 2nd Amendment they are infringing on my rights because of the actions of 1/100000000 of 1% of crazy people and criminals.

nor the mentally ill Robbie... the politicians keep blaming inanimate objects

pretty sure the NRA suggested better screening..

In fact he does ... you are the stupid one , repeating these idiotic talking points of the NRA ....

so it was the atomics bomb fault that it was dropped or was it that since there was an a bomb we had to use it well because....


let's take a quick look at your analytical mind while you're here: 'you are the stupid' and 'idiotic talking points' I bet your bank account is humming dude, with a razor sharp mind like yours, I bet you're setting the world on fire... and hopefully they'll NEVER let you have a fucking gun