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  • dyna mo
    just a fucking jerk
    • Dec 2008
    • 68184

    #31
    Originally posted by wehateporn
    It's not a conspiracy thread, you were the one who first mentioned conspiracies
    look, i asked how this topic fits your conspiracy agenda and i think it's a valid question. i mean if you can find anything that is more anti-gov than btc, then lay it on me so the topic did make me wonder where you are coming from.

    but your reply was to look who benefits. and i'm up for that. i looked, couldn't find anything and asked if you find anything, post it here,.

    let's try and stick to facts about btc, there is enough nonsense about it, that's my only intent here.

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    • 2012
      So Fucking What
      • Jul 2006
      • 17189

      #32
      how can you hack a bitcoin ?
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      • Supz
        Arthur Flegenheimer
        • Jul 2006
        • 11057

        #33
        If you pay for porn with Bitcoins, are they then considered Titcoins?

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        • ninavain
          So Fucking Banned
          • Jan 2004
          • 6268

          #34
          Originally posted by wehateporn
          Seems like it was quite a good headline, would have sold more newspapers than a boring one

          Bitcoin Hacked: Price Stumbles After Buying Frenzy
          http://www.cnbc.com/id/100615508

          Bitcoin Hacked
          http://www.thedailybeast.com/cheats/...in-hacked.html

          Bitcoin Hacked: Price Stumbles
          http://finance.yahoo.com/news/bitcoi...103848677.html

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          • DWB
            Registered User
            • Jul 2003
            • 31779

            #35
            "Attackers wait until the price of bitcoins reaches a certain value, sell, destabilize the exchange, wait for everybody to panic-sell their bitcoins, wait for the price to drop to a certain amount, then stop the attack and start buying as much as they can. Repeat this two or three times like we saw over the past few days and they profit. There is pretty much nothing that can be done." Mt.Gox said.
            Ouch. This is a huge weakness in btc and will ultimately help lead to its failure unless they can prevent this from happening over and over and over again. A real investor with real money isn't going to mess with something that kids can manipulate every week. Something like this is exactly the sort of thing that can stop it from becoming used by everyone.

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            • dyna mo
              just a fucking jerk
              • Dec 2008
              • 68184

              #36
              Originally posted by DWB
              Ouch. This is a huge weakness in btc and will ultimately help lead to its failure unless they can prevent this from happening over and over and over again. A real investor with real money isn't going to mess with something that kids can manipulate every week. Something like this is exactly the sort of thing that can stop it from becoming used by everyone.
              here's the thing though, all markets are manipulated from the inside at one point or another and to some degree.

              btc will never be immune to that, constant vigilance will be the norm.

              nevertheless, it is a big problem right now, even dwolla was ddos'ed, at the same time too.

              i can only assume that by denynig service at dwolla manipulated people's ability to move money into and out of their mtgox accounts.in a way the hackers wanted.
              Last edited by dyna mo; 04-04-2013, 09:03 AM.

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              • DWB
                Registered User
                • Jul 2003
                • 31779

                #37
                Originally posted by dyna mo
                here's the thing though, all markets are manipulated from the inside at one point or another and to some degree.

                btc will never be immune to that, constant vigilance will be the norm.

                nevertheless, it is a big problem right now, even dwolla was ddos'ed, at the same time too.

                i can only assume that by denynig service at dwolla somehow manipulated people's ability to move money into and out of their mtgox accounts.
                100% correct. The difference is, big investors (along with the Gov / Wall Street) are the ones who manipulate the real markets. Kids and hackers are manipulating bitcoin, and that will keep away big investors. If I had to choose between a Wall Street or billionaire manipulated market vs a group of Russian hackers and script kiddies, I'm choosing Wall Street. I at least know there will be a tomorrow with Wall Street.

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                • dyna mo
                  just a fucking jerk
                  • Dec 2008
                  • 68184

                  #38
                  Originally posted by DWB
                  100% correct. The difference is, big investors (along with the Gov / Wall Street) are the ones who manipulate the real markets. Kids and hackers are manipulating bitcoin, and that will keep away big investors. If I had to choose between a Wall Street or billionaire manipulated market vs a group of Russian hackers and script kiddies, I'm choosing Wall Street. I at least know there will be a tomorrow with Wall Street.
                  actually, i'd bet some heavy hitters are doing this...maybe they are kid hackers but they could be holding several hundred thousand btc and put together a heavy handed ddos on multiple sites.

                  but i'm planning on wall street getting in, and soon. there's already mumbling about how to short btc and how hedge funds can incorporate it into portfolios.

                  and i want to be on this side of the investment window with my little handful of btc when they start fucking with the puppet strings.

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                  • dyna mo
                    just a fucking jerk
                    • Dec 2008
                    • 68184

                    #39
                    This Week in DDoS:

                    Bitcoin has seen a lot of popularity recently and, as a result, processors for the cryptocurrency and exchanges have been the target of DDoS attacks. Payment processor Dwolla became the first to notice a cyberattack under way and then Bitcoin exchange MtGox also came under fire?it?s currently unknown who was attacking the sites or why, but it?s not an uncommon event for Bitcoin exchanges and processors. Niche spaces that involve money making are especially susceptible to DDoS and it could be used to camouflage fraudulent activity?although it?s harder to get away with that sort of thing with bitcoins themselves, it might be possible to wound an exchange or processor.

                    MtGox saw a dip in the value of BTC lagging along the peak of the DDoS but the value quickly sprang back up again. Current talk amid the market is that a 5,000 BTC sale happened during that time and this is what caused the value dip.

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                    • Supz
                      Arthur Flegenheimer
                      • Jul 2006
                      • 11057

                      #40
                      Originally posted by dyna mo
                      here's the thing though, all markets are manipulated from the inside at one point or another and to some degree.

                      btc will never be immune to that, constant vigilance will be the norm.

                      nevertheless, it is a big problem right now, even dwolla was ddos'ed, at the same time too.

                      i can only assume that by denynig service at dwolla manipulated people's ability to move money into and out of their mtgox accounts.in a way the hackers wanted.
                      Just not by hackers. Of Course there are the big traders on wall st who move the markets. But at the same time, if you invest in sound companies that that pay dividends and show a profit. You actually stand a chance as an individual investor.

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                      • AsianDivaGirlsWebDude
                        Purveyor, Fine Asian Porn
                        • Jul 2004
                        • 38323

                        #41


                        When Salon published my story ?A Libertarian Nightmare: Bitcoin Meets Big Government,? less than two weeks ago, the value of a single Bitcoin in U.S. dollars hit an all-time record of $72. On Wednesday morning, Bitcoins were trading at $147, and press coverage of the ?cryptocurrency? had risen in parallel.

                        You might be wondering why people are making Bitcoin jokes in your Twitter stream. Simple: When a unit of currency rises in value from $13 in January to $147 in April we are witnessing the very definition of a speculative bubble. And when that currency is the preferred denomination for libertarian hackers who believe passionately that they have finally found a tool that will allow them to ?starve the beast? of big government, well, it?s hard to resist rubbernecking.

                        But when people start comparing the rise in price of a commodity to tulips it is time to get out.

                        Sure enough, by late Wednesday afternoon Bitcoin appeared to be in the middle of a crash. The circumstances of the crash are worth noting, albeit mysterious. Mt. Gox, a Japan-based exchange that is by far the largest Bitcoin clearinghouse, was knocked offline for at least an hour Wednesday. Whether this was because of high demand for Bitcoins, or the result of a denial-of-service attack masterminded by mischievous hackers, or simply Felix Salmon?s fault (the noted financial blogger published a 5,000-word critique of Bitcoin on Wednesday), is impossible to say at this point. What we do know is that in the aftermath of Mt. Gox?s difficulties, the trading value of a Bitcoin dropped by at least $30.

                        Of course, even at $115 or so, the value of a Bitcoin is still far higher than it is has been for the majority of its three-year existence. So maybe this is a bump in the road. But people looking for a medium of exchange that is safer than the much maligned ?fiat currencies? backed by ?statist? governments might do well to be cautious. Bitcoins are ?mined? by applying massive computer power to the solution of complex mathematical problems. Designed by hackers, manufactured by hackers, beloved by hackers ? everything associated with the Bitcoin infrastructure is also a natural target of hackers.

                        Maybe we?re just living through the birthing pains of tomorrow?s transcendent currency, the trial-by-hacker fire that ensures Bitcoin can survive the rigors of any future test. Like everyone else, I?ll be watching with interest to see what happens. But I?m not ready to convert my own hard-earned cash. The lesson so far seems to be that as Bitcoin attracts greater interest from the world at large, it is becoming more volatile and more attractive to troublemakers. Fun to watch, but not a good idea for a college savings account.
                        http://www.salon.com/2013/04/03/bitcoins_crazy_day/



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                        • woj
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                          • Jul 2002
                          • 47882

                          #42
                          Originally posted by dyna mo
                          actually, i'd bet some heavy hitters are doing this...maybe they are kid hackers but they could be holding several hundred thousand btc and put together a heavy handed ddos on multiple sites.

                          but i'm planning on wall street getting in, and soon. there's already mumbling about how to short btc and how hedge funds can incorporate it into portfolios.

                          and i want to be on this side of the investment window with my little handful of btc when they start fucking with the puppet strings.
                          I was under the impression that bitcoins are decentralized and so can not be stopped?
                          and yet, downing only a few sites for only a few hours caused a 20+% decline in price?
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                          • BlackCrayon
                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                            • Jun 2003
                            • 19634

                            #43
                            Originally posted by dyna mo
                            actually, i'd bet some heavy hitters are doing this...maybe they are kid hackers but they could be holding several hundred thousand btc and put together a heavy handed ddos on multiple sites.

                            but i'm planning on wall street getting in, and soon. there's already mumbling about how to short btc and how hedge funds can incorporate it into portfolios.

                            and i want to be on this side of the investment window with my little handful of btc when they start fucking with the puppet strings.
                            there is a difference between typical market manipulation through rumors, sell offs, etc and downing the bitcoin sites. it would like someone calling in a bomb threat to wallstreet and shutting it down.

                            its just so easy to ddos sites. the same people mining bitcoins with botnets are most likely the same ones ddosing the sites. they already have the botnets.
                            you don't know you're wearing a leash if you sit by the peg all day..

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                            • CAHEK
                              C.C.C.P.
                              • Aug 2003
                              • 7413

                              #44
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                              • dyna mo
                                just a fucking jerk
                                • Dec 2008
                                • 68184

                                #45
                                Originally posted by Supz
                                Just not by hackers. Of Course there are the big traders on wall st who move the markets. But at the same time, if you invest in sound companies that that pay dividends and show a profit. You actually stand a chance as an individual investor.
                                i'm figuring you know more about this than i do but i remember the junk bond market, it was entirely propped up from the inside right?

                                Originally posted by woj
                                I was under the impression that bitcoins are decentralized and so can not be stopped?
                                and yet, downing only a few sites for only a few hours caused a 20+% decline in price?
                                btc is decentralized, the exchange that was hit, mtgox, has commanded a lion's share of the exchange business so when they were hit, it was similar to hitting a large chunk of the entire exchange market. I've seen some #s that claim 90% of all btc business is transacted through mtgox.

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