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Old 02-22-2003, 05:07 PM   #1
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Is it possible to have 100k in bandwidth expenses a month?

Somebody on a small board is talking big stuff about how his bandwidth bill is over $100,000 a month. Now this isn't a program owner. This is somebody who claims to be pushing hundreds of AVS sites. I just don't see how this is possible...Maybe I'm wrong...but I want to make sure before I respond.....
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Old 02-22-2003, 05:08 PM   #2
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Maybe he has a SHITLOAD of avs sites.
...or just pays a LOT per mbs.
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Old 02-22-2003, 05:08 PM   #3
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I pay .50 cents a gig on a dedicated so this fuckewr gotta be pushing someserious BW or he is getting charged like $10/gig
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Old 02-22-2003, 05:09 PM   #4
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Well ya can get it now for 50 cents a gig so I'd say he was burning up the net, no wonder it takes me so long to get Yahoo up..LOL
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Old 02-22-2003, 05:11 PM   #5
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its not impossible... likely? no.
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Old 02-22-2003, 05:11 PM   #6
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this is what he said
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We happen to do roughly 640,000 GB of data across the network. We're not talking 5 sites, 20 sites, or even 100. We're talking hundreds of sites. At $0.17 per GB, that's $108,800. Our rate isn't always $0.17, but it's usually close for the majority of the network.
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If you're paying hosting companies a fortune to put up with your spamming practices I could see it.

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Old 02-22-2003, 05:12 PM   #8
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Somebody on a small board is talking big stuff about how his bandwidth bill is over $100,000 a month. Now this isn't a program owner. This is somebody who claims to be pushing hundreds of AVS sites. I just don't see how this is possible...Maybe I'm wrong...but I want to make sure before I respond.....
damn, thats a lot of money! And I am crying the blues when I see my (now in comparision) small server bill per month ha ha

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Old 02-22-2003, 05:12 PM   #9
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Somebody on a small board is talking big stuff about how his bandwidth bill is over $100,000 a month. Now this isn't a program owner. This is somebody who claims to be pushing hundreds of AVS sites. I just don't see how this is possible...Maybe I'm wrong...but I want to make sure before I respond.....
He's most likely full of shit, but Yes it is possible....
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Old 02-22-2003, 05:13 PM   #10
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Old 02-22-2003, 05:15 PM   #11
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this is what he said
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We happen to do roughly 640,000 GB of data across the network. We're not talking 5 sites, 20 sites, or even 100. We're talking hundreds of sites. At $0.17 per GB, that's $108,800. Our rate isn't always $0.17, but it's usually close for the majority of the network.
I bet he pays a quarter or half that. He wouldnt quote a $108,800 blah blah blah if he used that. He would have said "We spend over $100k a month on bandwidth alone."
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Old 02-22-2003, 05:15 PM   #12
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There's people who pay $500,000 a month. What's your point ?
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Old 02-22-2003, 05:16 PM   #13
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what he said.


possible but unlikely. Especially since he describes his operation as mostly being the AVS biz. To rack up that kind of bandwidth bill, you'd need an in house staff of people churning out a helluva lot of AVS sites and generating all that traffic. Anybody driving that much traffic who doesn't have their own paysites is an idiot.
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Old 02-22-2003, 05:17 PM   #14
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There's people who pay $500,000 a month. What's your point ?

People like rackshack maybe. End users? Nope.. not these days. Maybe in 98-00 people like Yahoo and Ebay. But these days? No way. Rackshacks network MIGHT cost them around there... and they have a massive network.
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Old 02-22-2003, 05:23 PM   #15
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Very doubtful.

Why don't you invite him to GFY to fight it out with the pros over here?
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Old 02-22-2003, 05:25 PM   #16
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HUNDREDS of avs sites huh?


I have close to 1000 and that cost below 200 $ per month

AVS sites push close to nothing in terms of bandwidth, even with movies
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Old 02-22-2003, 05:26 PM   #17
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Very doubtful.

Why don't you invite him to GFY to fight it out with the pros over here?
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Old 02-22-2003, 05:27 PM   #18
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Old 02-22-2003, 05:32 PM   #19
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Maybe he's a webhosting provider....

or he's just full of shit.
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If he does 600,000+ gigs that is about 2 gigabit... Wholesale on the bandwidth might be in the area of $60,000-$80,000 plus servers, management, etc. In some places around the country 2 gigabit from premium providers could easily cost $100,000.

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Old 02-22-2003, 06:03 PM   #21
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$100,000k / month? He's either pushing in the neighborhood of 2Gbps or he's paying too much.
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you sure he 'has' a couple of avs sites or does he own an avs network?
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Old 02-22-2003, 06:05 PM   #23
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Anything's possible. A T3 used to run 45,000$ per month in Canada from UUNet and we were using 2 of em full tilt.. So..
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Old 02-22-2003, 06:07 PM   #24
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Sounds like bullshit unless he hosts an AVS network with alot of movie content like Adultbouncer or Universalpass.
he needs a 2gbit connection and I bet nobody needs that to push his own sites.

And if you burn that much you won't pay more than 10 cents a gig.
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sounds like adultbouncer .. and i dont talk about their webmasters
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Ask him what his monthly net is. That's all that matters. You will find that most people who are truly successful rarely brag about it or say much if anything about their business unless asked in private.

I bet he is full of shit. Tell him to come over here and post. We'll spank him good. Or ask him for a URL.




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Good enough to shoot the shit as anything else...
"hundreds."
Hmm... i think the person is full of shit I just shot.

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Somebody on a small board is talking big stuff about how his bandwidth bill is over $100,000 a month. Now this isn't a program owner. This is somebody who claims to be pushing hundreds of AVS sites. I just don't see how this is possible...Maybe I'm wrong...but I want to make sure before I respond.....
It's been said but unless HUGE movie sites giving shit loads away outside of the AVS as well as inside, hundreds of sites aint gonna use more than a few hundred gig.

I'll go with most in this thread and say it's bullshit.

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Wow.. that is a lot of bandwidth...

I know of a "pretty big" sponsor program who are paying about $75.000 a month on bandwidth... but they have some very big sites and they have a lot of movies...

I don't see a 'regular' webmaster pushing that much.
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I have "heard" so I dont know (could be BS,for all Iknow) of couple end users using 2Gbit

So if that is the case, I could see it by the time you pay for servers,power,admin etc...
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I have "heard" so I dont know (could be BS,for all Iknow) of couple end users using 2Gbit

So if that is the case, I could see it by the time you pay for servers,power,admin etc...
You shouldn't be counting servers or administration as part of your bandwidth bill. Servers are a capital expense and administration is payroll.
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I have "heard" so I dont know (could be BS,for all Iknow) of couple end users using 2Gbit

So if that is the case, I could see it by the time you pay for servers,power,admin etc...
Eh? 2gig is nothing. It wouldn't even run you $500 at many hosts.
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BS on the person doing AVS sites and pushing that. I don't even hit .5mbps with I dunno how many avs sites I have. 5,000 - 10,000 I would guess.
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Eh? 2gig is nothing. It wouldn't even run you $500 at many hosts.


If you know of a host that gives 2 Gbps for $500 a month, please tell the rest of us about them.
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You shouldn't be counting servers or administration as part of your bandwidth bill. Servers are a capital expense and administration is payroll.

Im talking if it is outsourced to a hosting co. and the bill is combined.
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Eh? 2gig is nothing. It wouldn't even run you $500 at many hosts.

Ya, let me know where I can get 2Gbps for $500.

I will pack up my network tonight and move there.

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If you know of a host that gives 2 Gbps for $500 a month, please tell the rest of us about them.
Off the top of my head 5x$99 rachshack boxes would give that. Reliableservers do a $400 deal that gives a theoretical 1.6gig a month which equates to $500 for 2gig. I know there's others out there I haven't used/looked into. Plenty of people on this board paying 25c or less a gig. Why would it be hard to find? I'd imagine candid can come very close to 25c or less a gig on large amounts of BW (paid per mbit). Certainly it's no big secret.

Besides when we're talking about $100k a few hundred bucks difference matters little. The point is still very valid that a few gig isn't gonna cost more than a few k on even premiun BW with an expensive host.
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If you know of a host that gives 2 Gbps for $500 a month, please tell the rest of us about them.

I thunk'd GB and MB are being confused here...lol
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You have ANY idea how much 2 Gbps is?
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Off the top of my head 5x$99 rachshack boxes would give that. Reliableservers do a $400 deal that gives a theoretical 1.6gig a month which equates to $500 for 2gig. I know there's others out there I haven't used/looked into. Plenty of people on this board paying 25c or less a gig. Why would it be hard to find? I'd imagine candid can come very close to 25c or less a gig on large amounts of BW (paid per mbit). Certainly it's no big secret.

Besides when we're talking about $100k a few hundred bucks difference matters little. The point is still very valid that a few gig isn't gonna cost more than a few k on even premiun BW with an expensive host.
LOL

You are confusing Terabyte per month with Gigabit per second
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You have ANY idea how much 2 Gbps is?
I know but misread it totally I read it as 2gig and missed the 2gbps
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LOL

You are confusing Terabyte per month with Gigabit per second
Just realised that. Totally misread the post. :D
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I know but misread it totally I read it as 2gig and missed the 2gbps
Time for a coffee I think

Hey its alright, must be early where you are
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Still gave me a fun few minutes making an ass of myself

Mind you, I'd still say someone with just a few hundred AVS sites is talking more BS than my posts above if he says it costs $100k a month in hosting.
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Anyway all the specualtion will not figure it out.

Only the guy writing out those 108K checks knows.
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Hey its alright, must be early where you are
Lateish. 2am but been a long day and I'm getting over flu. Still, bought a smile to my face. If you can't laugh at yourself....
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Anyway all the specualtion will not figure it out.

Only the guy writing out those 108K checks knows.
True - mind you if he's shouting it out on boards I'd love to know why he says he uses that much. Makes me very curious.
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I know but misread it totally I read it as 2gig and missed the 2gbps
Time for a coffee I think
If you are paying $500 for 2 gig a month, I think you may want to consider switching hosts
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If he does 600,000+ gigs that is about 2 gigabit... Wholesale on the bandwidth might be in the area of $60,000-$80,000 plus servers, management, etc. In some places around the country 2 gigabit from premium providers could easily cost $100,000.

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People had already said it was POSSIBLE, the question became how PROBABLE it was that a guy running shitloads of "AVS Sites" would be using 2 gigabits....

you're in that industry (hosting).. what do you think the probability is?

My reference to rackshack was to make the point that they are using around 4-5 gbps of bandwidth.. and they have a MASSIVE operation over there built on cheap whored out bandwidth prices (which, for reference, I see as a good thing)
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If you are paying $500 for 2 gig a month, I think you may want to consider switching hosts
I even fucked that part up. I'm off for this coffee :D
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