Phoenix Forum - April 4-7
Looking to talk to anybody in the art or solo (multi or model specific) niche or plans to expand into one of those areas
example of the art niche:
wowgirls.com/femjoy/x-art/, etc
Whether youre a shooter or apart of an affiliate program.
Or anybody involved in paysites, im really open to discussing just about anything paysite related
Not needing anything related to servers or alternative billing. all handled there.
My history, im a shooter, editor, marketing manager of some of the top solo sites in the niche and have plans to move to hardcore eventually. multi model site eventually soon
always interested in site purchases, partnerships, selling content of exclusive models, you name it.
And a related rant:
Its a real shame that most of these programs dont have reps who goto these events because theres business to be made but sadly theyre content with where they are or think theres no business to be made there. If any bigger programs see this, i urge you guys to take a day out of your schedule to attend an event once a year. Did meet a nubiles rep there last year though. Props to them. Not shockingly, theyre a company doing well with adapting and growing
I hear all the time about companies like these needing photographers and not currently being happy with theirs and hiring new ones and going to the well of the only few photographers they know in the industry, never understood why they aren't out there, theres photographers and models to meet all the time. Its a couple hundred dollar trip. Youre never too big to find new models or photographers. I actually have photographers from outside the industry meet me in phoenix as its a good central location all the time, it may seem like its only full of server and alternative billing reps but it is not ;)
I have also met models there that are worthy that could have been very interested if approached by the right person.
Im still shocked nobody has talked Allie Mason (Allie Rose) on board, shes attended the event the past few years and has done playboy.
Alexandra Capriola worked a couple years ago, dont believe she was approached. Couple reps I talked to wanted work
I see these same companies using the same lousy models every body else is using. I think when Elle Alexandra, Rilee Marks, Malena Morgan came into the light, everybody had a ton of sets from them. I got tired of them in no time because of this. companies down south are so terrible at getting new top girls involved, its ridiculous, because they give 0 effort. there's a girl who has attended the forum a few times recently who is top notch and better than all their models, but i guess companies rather keep going to the same well and using the same girls every other company is using
I know a few photographers who decide not to go, which is find strange. Ive needed photographers before, i goto the show, missed opportunities. Truthfully , just meeting people and showing face, i talk to companies all the time and if i know a photographer is a good guy and has people skills, much more likely to recommend one.
If you have gone and dont think there is a benefit to going, maybe youre not talking to the right people there ;)
Actually i can think of a scenario right now, Gisele used to attend all the time, perhaps if she had met somebody with some people skills, when she was looking for new work, im pretty sure she would have been more likely to work with you. I believe she chose her current program (pacinocash) because she already knew him, i believe they hung out in phoenix, or maybe met prior , not sure. but my point is, she went with somebody she knew face to face
Looking to talk to anybody in the art or solo (multi or model specific) niche or plans to expand into one of those areas
example of the art niche:
wowgirls.com/femjoy/x-art/, etc
Whether youre a shooter or apart of an affiliate program.
Or anybody involved in paysites, im really open to discussing just about anything paysite related
Not needing anything related to servers or alternative billing. all handled there.
My history, im a shooter, editor, marketing manager of some of the top solo sites in the niche and have plans to move to hardcore eventually. multi model site eventually soon
always interested in site purchases, partnerships, selling content of exclusive models, you name it.
And a related rant:
Its a real shame that most of these programs dont have reps who goto these events because theres business to be made but sadly theyre content with where they are or think theres no business to be made there. If any bigger programs see this, i urge you guys to take a day out of your schedule to attend an event once a year. Did meet a nubiles rep there last year though. Props to them. Not shockingly, theyre a company doing well with adapting and growing
I hear all the time about companies like these needing photographers and not currently being happy with theirs and hiring new ones and going to the well of the only few photographers they know in the industry, never understood why they aren't out there, theres photographers and models to meet all the time. Its a couple hundred dollar trip. Youre never too big to find new models or photographers. I actually have photographers from outside the industry meet me in phoenix as its a good central location all the time, it may seem like its only full of server and alternative billing reps but it is not ;)
I have also met models there that are worthy that could have been very interested if approached by the right person.
Im still shocked nobody has talked Allie Mason (Allie Rose) on board, shes attended the event the past few years and has done playboy.
Alexandra Capriola worked a couple years ago, dont believe she was approached. Couple reps I talked to wanted work
I see these same companies using the same lousy models every body else is using. I think when Elle Alexandra, Rilee Marks, Malena Morgan came into the light, everybody had a ton of sets from them. I got tired of them in no time because of this. companies down south are so terrible at getting new top girls involved, its ridiculous, because they give 0 effort. there's a girl who has attended the forum a few times recently who is top notch and better than all their models, but i guess companies rather keep going to the same well and using the same girls every other company is using
I know a few photographers who decide not to go, which is find strange. Ive needed photographers before, i goto the show, missed opportunities. Truthfully , just meeting people and showing face, i talk to companies all the time and if i know a photographer is a good guy and has people skills, much more likely to recommend one.
If you have gone and dont think there is a benefit to going, maybe youre not talking to the right people there ;)
Actually i can think of a scenario right now, Gisele used to attend all the time, perhaps if she had met somebody with some people skills, when she was looking for new work, im pretty sure she would have been more likely to work with you. I believe she chose her current program (pacinocash) because she already knew him, i believe they hung out in phoenix, or maybe met prior , not sure. but my point is, she went with somebody she knew face to face
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