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03-17-2013, 09:50 PM

Originally posted by MisterPeabody

Well, it's an amazingly simple business, when you think about it: sell sexual images and videos to (mostly) men who crave ejaculation. .

Not many businesses are very complicated.

Unless you're a thermo-nuclear scientist or a brain surgeon...all it really takes is a bright guy with a lot of drive and ambition to rise to the top of most anything they want.

As Thomas Edison said: "Genius is one per cent inspiration and ninety-nine per cent perspiration. Accordingly, a 'genius' is often merely a talented person who has done all of his or her homework."

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03-17-2013, 10:21 PM

Originally posted by MisterPeabody

Well, it's an amazingly simple business, when you think about it: sell sexual images and videos to (mostly) men who crave ejaculation. But as free porn continues to drown us all it's getting harder and harder to figure out how to sell what used to be easy to sell.

I do often wonder if the smart ones in this business were the ones who sold and got out back in 2007 or so.

In a funny way, I think ironically maybe even because people mistrust the online adult industry in general, it tends to be less scamtastic than similar businesses. Or at least, I have had some pretty major VC-funded "mainstream" online companies work awfully hard to scam people out of chump change. In online adult, someone stops paying and they are pretty much done in a few weeks. I started off in magazines and online is pretty awesome comparatively. Just the speed of cashflow in online adult helps keep people honest.

There are a lot of businesses it has sucked to be in since 2007 though. I mean, freaking megacorp McDonald's couldn't get the normal access to capital they require to do business normally.

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03-17-2013, 10:40 PM

This is going to put a significant stab in the heart of the remaining decent affiliates.

Mom and Pop shops... looks like its the final blow, that is probably most of your yearly profit.

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03-17-2013, 11:05 PM

2013 and people still believe it is a fee from the card companies, lulz.

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03-18-2013, 03:05 AM

Originally posted by mikesouth

I spoke with an attorney years back who specializes in Class Action suits against credit card companies.

His assessment was that the high risk fees were absolutely actionable and it would be a slam dunk to get every dime refunded in a class action suit.

BUT

The downside is that Visa (and now MC) would most likely stop processing for adult

& what about the filelocker cunts they are so happy to allow processing?

This will really hurt me, I am just a small website, I will have to accept it as I have a shed load of mastercard rebills... my rebill retentions are quite high which suggest those members at my site enjoy what I do, but this is another swipe at the smaller companies like myself, it really sucks!

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03-18-2013, 03:10 AM

Originally posted by Robbie

Not many businesses are very complicated.

Unless you're a thermo-nuclear scientist or a brain surgeon...all it really takes is a bright guy with a lot of drive and ambition to rise to the top of most anything they want.

As Thomas Edison said: "Genius is one per cent inspiration and ninety-nine per cent perspiration. Accordingly, a 'genius' is often merely a talented person who has done all of his or her homework."

and to add:
ALL industries are full of alkies,druggies,assholes, scammers, etc, we are NO different. It's like those people who say they expect no morals in the adult biz, ugh, I hate that shit.
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#82

03-18-2013, 03:42 AM

Originally posted by Jel

ccbill losing money on sites that don't cover the 500, not MC

Thanks Jel, RIF

Correct, what possible reason could there be for CCBill to pass along this fee, Mastercard is billing them.

Christ, If you run a hardware store, you pay rent, or own the building, everyone opening a McDonalds pays a franchise fee.

Bottom line, Mastercard says FUCK YOU, pay me, you have 2 choices, pay it, or do not process Mastercard

Endless bitching and moaning on GFY is nor going to change it.

Biggest problem with this biz, Not piracy, not tubes, it is the entry cost is too low so it is filled with "businessmen" making beer money that think they are ballers.

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03-18-2013, 03:43 AM

Originally posted by alias

2013 and people still believe it is a fee from the card companies, lulz.

google, you can get the info direct from Mastercard

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03-18-2013, 03:56 AM

Just like any other biz, the cost is passed on to the customer

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03-19-2013, 10:08 AM

maybe ccbill just got the BIG fine from mastercard? for processing filehosts, for example

http://m.gfy.com/showthread.php?t=1063640&page=1

so filehosts get the profit and "innocent" adult business has to pay fines
credit card companies charge huge fines for breaking rules by processing companies... its a well-known fact... easy to get $500,000 fine being caught for doing something against rules

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03-19-2013, 11:51 AM

Discover Card is next to introduce $500 Discover Fee Diners Card, too...
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03-19-2013, 12:38 PM

I'm probably going to pay the fee to Epoch as I would loose a shit load of MasterCard re-bills. However, I don't see anywhere in my CCBill admin to check how many MasterCard subscriptions I have and thought fuck it, I'm not paying MC twice. So I contacted CCbill yesterday with my notice to opt-out of processing MasterCard with them.
Disappointingly I've not had any response from them yet, which kind of reassures me that I use Epoch as primary for the right reasons!

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03-19-2013, 12:42 PM

Originally posted by BNMedia

I'm probably going to pay the fee to Epoch as I would loose a shit load of MasterCard re-bills. However, I don't see anywhere in my CCBill admin to check how many MasterCard subscriptions I have and thought fuck it, I'm not paying MC twice. So I contacted CCbill yesterday with my notice to opt-out of processing MasterCard with them.
Disappointingly I've not had any response from them yet, which kind of reassures me that I use Epoch as primary for the right reasons!

500 Euros p/year covers BOTH Visa AND MasterCard through Verotel.
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03-19-2013, 12:53 PM

Originally posted by BFT3K

500 Euros p/year covers BOTH Visa AND MasterCard through Verotel.

I have a Verotel Premium account and have discussed the MC topic with them and they did confirm that there will be no additional fee.
However, small merchants can easily get stung with them. If you fall under ?1000 (Euros) per week with a Premiere account you pay a ?25 p/w fee. If you consistently process lower than ?1000 per week then you can change to a Verotel Basic account which has no fee, provided you process over ?100 p/w. The sting with the Verotel basic account is that processing charges are 15.5% initial and 17% on recurring subscriptions (initial rate plus 1.5%)
So could be a good choice for some but definitely not for all.

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03-19-2013, 01:27 PM

Originally posted by BNMedia

The sting with the Verotel basic account is that processing charges are 15.5% initial and 17% on recurring subscriptions (initial rate plus 1.5%)
So could be a good choice for some but definitely not for all.

HOLY SHIT!!!

Get yourself a merchant account. That is just highway robbery.

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