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myjah 03-12-2013 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by blackmonsters (Post 19525035)
It's perfectly legal to "steal ideas".

You can't copyright an idea.

http://legalwritepublications.com/co...right-an-idea/

Please see my note above that my response isn't about what is legal but about what is right.

Morals...yes, some people still have them.

NaughtyVisions 03-12-2013 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by ReggieDurango (Post 19524964)
Our movie SPUNK'D is clearly a parody, we never got sued, and if we ever DO get sued I don't think they would have much of a case against us. Check out the trailer and you decide:
SPUNK'D TRAILER

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Originally Posted by ReggieDurango (Post 19524974)
Again, check out my example of our parody movie Spunk'd and tell me how exactly it is stealing? How is this NOT considered fair use parody in your opinion???

Now this ^^^^ is a fucking parody.

Spoof title, spoof celeb names. Kudos to you for putting out a REAL parody. :thumbsup

Mutt 03-12-2013 07:06 PM

This is a famous lawsuit, Walt Disney sued a group of underground comic book artists/writers call Air Pirates for copyright and trademark infringements. The comics this group created featured Mickey Mouse and other famous cartoon characters doing nasty stuff, weird sex, drugs etc The defense was the comics were parody, therefore protected speech. The trial court disagreed as did the US Court of Appeals, the Supreme Court denied them an appeal to that court.

This was 1979, maybe there are other cases that followed that have precedent now.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_Pirates

blackmonsters 03-12-2013 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Mutt (Post 19525066)
This is a famous lawsuit, Walt Disney sued a group of underground comic book artists/writers call Air Pirates for copyright and trademark infringements. The comics this group created featured Mickey Mouse and other famous cartoon characters doing nasty stuff, weird sex, drugs etc The defense was the comics were parody, therefore protected speech. The trial court disagreed as did the US Court of Appeals, the Supreme Court denied them an appeal to that court.

This was 1979, maybe there are other cases that followed that have precedent now.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_Pirates

That's a different thing because they don't just copy the script they copy the art work.

When you look at their porn, you see Mickey Mouse fucking, not Dicky Mouse.
That's wrong.

A good example is "Itchy and Scratchy" : it is a parody of the violent "Tom and Jerry".
But Itchy and Scratchy look nothing like Tom and Jerry.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Itc..._Scratchy_Show

Grapesoda 03-12-2013 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by blackmonsters (Post 19525035)
It's perfectly legal to "steal ideas".

You can't copyright an idea.

http://legalwritepublications.com/co...right-an-idea/

in Hollywood it's not called stealing... here's it's 'reimaging' :1orglaugh

Mutt 03-12-2013 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by blackmonsters (Post 19525109)
That's a different thing because they don't just copy the script they copy the art work.

When you look at their porn, you see Mickey Mouse fucking, not Dicky Mouse.

No different than a Batman or Spiderman XXX parody, they use the same costumes.

blackmonsters 03-12-2013 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Mutt (Post 19525117)
No different than a Batman or Spiderman XXX parody, they use the same costumes.

Links?

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myjah 03-12-2013 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Grapesoda (Post 19525116)
in Hollywood it's not called stealing... here's it's 'reimaging' :1orglaugh

Sadly you're right and it pains me to say that.

ReggieDurango 03-12-2013 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by NaughtyVisions (Post 19525057)
Now this ^^^^ is a fucking parody.

Spoof title, spoof celeb names. Kudos to you for putting out a REAL parody. :thumbsup

Why thank you, good sir. I was hoping someone would notice ;)

xxxjay 03-12-2013 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by ElConquistador (Post 19524987)
Anyone know what the settlement amount was? Universal doesn't settle for $20k.
I would imagine, Smash Pictures is done.

Nope, they still book girls through OCModeling and pay their invoices. Maybe the settlement was a lot less.

xxxjay 03-12-2013 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by mikesouth (Post 19523463)
There is a HUGE difference

parody and satire ARE protected free speech

what Smash Pictures did was neither...it was an "adaptation" that stuck very close to the books, nothing was parodied or satirized.

THAT is a clear violation and as such Smash was smart to settle...they;'d have been handed their ass.

I disagree. There is a big difference between the kind of "parody" stuff that Larry Flynt used to be able to pull off taking shots at Jerry Falwell and his ilk and what adult has been doing with mainstream movies.

For example...


You say that 50 Shades is a direct ripoff of the book (which I am not familiar with and didn't even know there was more than one of them) and 'Star Wars XXX'?

I was at the premier of it in LA I've never watch the whole thing, but they pretty much copied the plot, characters, storyline, and costumes...If I was a lawyer for Dreamworks, I'd be foaming at the mouth.

How is this any different than the 50 shades thing?

I really have no opinion of this, just adding my...

:2 cents:

ReggieDurango 03-12-2013 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by myjah (Post 19524983)
I didn't look at your example. Without looking at it, I'd like to pose the question to you that if YOU were the mastermind (and I use that interchangeably with publisher/producer/etc) behind a blockbuster book/film/series/etc...don't you think that anyone who wants to Parody your idea in a porn film OR for that matter an After School Series, should pay you for the rights?

EDIT: I'm speaking about the RIGHT thing to do...not the legal thing. :)

No, I would welcome the free marketing and the novelty of it all.

Now, again, watch my sample:

SPUNK'D TRAILER

MY question to YOU, Myjah, is after watching this, do you feel I "stole" anything from anyone? Do you feel I owe a % of sales???

Phoenix 03-12-2013 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by videobunch (Post 19524801)
I think once a kid gets a hold of something like XXX Smurfs or another title related to kids stories, not only will the org copyright holder sue but the parent in civil court. That is my take. I have talked to several studios and their lawyers have already warned them. Win or loose. Getting sued you loose no matter what just to defend yourself.

This...the only people who win in a lawsuit are the lawyers.

for the most part anyway

AmeliaG 03-13-2013 12:21 AM

I am not an attorney, so please don't take this as legal advice:

A settlement is not case law and does not set a precedent.

Far-L 03-13-2013 12:22 AM

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Originally Posted by xxxjay (Post 19523446)
As much as I hate to agree with you, I agree with you.

If the authors of some soft porn can make that case, imagine what the trademark/copyright holders of Spiderman, Stars Wars, Dukes Of Hazard, and every other mainstream movie that's been given a "not XXX" or "this ain't can do?

The case law is there now.

My maistream friends always asked me "How do they get away with that? How do they not get sued?"

Now I have the answer...

They don't.

:2 cents:

Just for the record... an undisclosed settlement means there is no case law precedent. All it means is Universal cost them so much so quickly in fees to fight it that they realized it wasn't worth it and so they settled, end of story.

Far-L 03-13-2013 12:23 AM

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Originally Posted by AmeliaG (Post 19525331)
I am not an attorney, so please don't take this as legal advice:

A settlement is not case law and does not set a precedent.

oops, beat me to it... that's what I get for being long-winded.:winkwink:

xxxjay 03-13-2013 01:06 AM

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Originally Posted by AmeliaG (Post 19525331)
I am not an attorney, so please don't take this as legal advice:

A settlement is not case law and does not set a precedent.

That is true. However I'm sure Smash didn't settle because they didn't want to establish case law. They paid because they had to.

Far-L 03-13-2013 01:28 AM

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Originally Posted by xxxjay (Post 19525361)
That is true. However I'm sure Smash didn't settle because they didn't want to establish case law. They paid because they had to.

Flynt's case seriously lopsided his company for a while too and he was making bank at the time. The next time a similar case landed on his doorstep he settled.

This kind of litigation is very expensive for a result that no matter how good a team of $350 to $1500 an hour legal brains you have working the defense none can provide a certain outcome. Most will settle if pressured to do so.

However, most don't want to sue either because it can either raise more attention than it is worth, there is too little cash to make it worthwhile, or even because they do stand as parody and are not seen as a detriment but a compliment to the original.

Parody porn isn't new nor is it going to go away. I have avoided it since the original Batman porn parody and of course the classic Edward Penishands parody...

Cherry7 03-13-2013 09:26 AM

One reason they don't sue is the so called parodies is that they are so badly done, so unfunny, so un sexy that it would be like the sporty guy kicking a cripple.

They are the successful movie makers they don't need the bad publicity.

Just like suing 12 year olds for making their own Star Wars movie.

ReggieDurango 03-13-2013 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Cherry7 (Post 19525891)
One reason they don't sue is the so called parodies is that they are so badly done, so unfunny, so un sexy that it would be like the sporty guy kicking a cripple.

Ok, this is the last time I'll shamelessly post the trailer for our own parody... I might be biased, but I think ours is well done, funny, and sexy!:
Spunk'd Trailer

NaughtyVisions 03-13-2013 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by ReggieDurango (Post 19525964)
Ok, this is the last time I'll shamelessly post the trailer for our own parody... I might be biased, but I think ours is well done, funny, and sexy!:
Spunk'd Trailer

Dude, you deserve it. XXXJay pointed out earlier in this thread (on this page) about Star Wars XXX simply inserting sex into the script and calling itself a parody.

Spunk'd is obviously a creative, witty and funny parody that actually pokes fun at the original IP. This, my friends, is how a parody should be done.

Screw all this "This Ain't" and "A XXX Parody" shit that the "big" studios put out. You want to see a REAL porn parody? Check out Spunk'd!

Cherry7 03-14-2013 01:33 AM

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Originally Posted by ReggieDurango (Post 19525964)
Ok, this is the last time I'll shamelessly post the trailer for our own parody... I might be biased, but I think ours is well done, funny, and sexy!:
Spunk'd Trailer

You proved my point

tony286 03-14-2013 05:54 AM

I saw the trailer for the taxi driver parody, nothing looked funny about it. It looked like a serious movie with sex in it

The Ghost 03-14-2013 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Grapesoda (Post 19524945)
I have to check the motor to see if the vibrate enough and have a sturdy build... couldn't do that with online stuff

Also to make sure the material isn't bullshit and the real shape and size.


No opinion on the original topic.

xxxjay 03-14-2013 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Far-L (Post 19525371)
Edward Penishands

I haven't thought about that in forever

Robbie 03-14-2013 11:28 AM

I'm wondering about porn parodies of PORN!

"This Ain't Brazzers"

"Not Naughty America"

:1orglaugh

NaughtyVisions 03-14-2013 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 19527882)
I'm wondering about porn parodies of PORN!

"This Ain't Brazzers"

"Not Naughty America"

:1orglaugh

You know....

If you actually poke fun at their company, sites or style of their material, then it should be fine. I would love to see it happen, because you know within seconds they'll be bitching and moaning about it.


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