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Dirty F 03-07-2013 07:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Minte (Post 19515968)
It's interesting to read the different thoughts on this.
In reality if the delivery person made an extra $50 for likely less than an hours worth of work,he did very well that night.

And to the people that say the tipping culture in the US is effed up.. I agree completely. It is.

You can say fucked here. Don't worry.

Avalana 03-07-2013 07:27 AM

it should be at least 10%....

PR_Glen 03-07-2013 07:28 AM

i always tip between 15-20% at a restaurant but pizza delivery would be a bit much.. A flat rate based on the service would be fair.. but 10 bucks? 50 sounds about right to me.

yuu.design 03-07-2013 07:45 AM

I think $50 its ok

arock10 03-07-2013 07:56 AM

Hmm I always tip about 20% on delivery. Last pizza I ordered showed up in 17 minutes. U mad

tony286 03-07-2013 08:05 AM

http://tipthepizzaguy.com/

they say 219

I would give $150. delivering 85 pizzas I think would be a ball breaker. You have to load 85 pies in the car and once you get there make whatever amount of trips to get them to the customer. If Im spending $1400 for pizza an extra $150 shouldnt break me.
I worked for tips so I know how it can suck. They get it to me hot,fast and right and Im happy. They dont even have to smile.

John-ACWM 03-07-2013 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Oracle Porn (Post 19515894)
%10. not $10, wtf.

:1orglaugh indeed.

DamianJ 03-07-2013 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Dirty F (Post 19515923)
In most other countries having a paid per hour employee works just fine.
The tipping culture is the US is completely retarded and NOT an example of how it should work.

Disagree with you there.

In the UK at least, there is an utterly SHIT service industry. No one cares, they are all on min wage and service, generally, is shit.

In the US, whenever I've been, service has been wonderful, because they are working for the tip. Especially at bars. If I drop a nice tip on the first round of drinks, that bartender is looking to see when my glass is approaching empty and is over exactly when he should be asking me if I need anything else.

You get what you pay for, I guess.

MaDalton 03-07-2013 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by ErectMedia (Post 19515427)
I usually tip $7-$8 for 1 pizza,

thats more than a pizza costs over here :winkwink:

brassmonkey 03-07-2013 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Minte (Post 19515417)
Saw this on yahoo.
Guy orders 85 pizzas and leaves a $10 dollar tip.
I think $50 would have been appropriate.
Too little? Too much?

http://www.bikinipage.com/gfy/pizzatip.jpg


Yahoo Tip Article

its called a tip there is no regulation for it.

Tip (gratuity), a voluntary additional payment made for services rendered

scuba steve 03-07-2013 08:57 AM

i've been many places, so correct me if i'm wrong but i think only here in miami have i regularly seen gratuity added in on your bill automatically regardless of how many people you have with you. so if you're at a club/bar or a restaurant on lincoln road, you get your bill and there is already 18% added on in the final tab.

i can imagine so many people that don't see that ledger and tip on top of it too

Minte 03-07-2013 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by scuba steve (Post 19516124)
i've been many places, so correct me if i'm wrong but i think only here in miami have i regularly seen gratuity added in on your bill automatically regardless of how many people you have with you. so if you're at a club/bar or a restaurant on lincoln road, you get your bill and there is already 18% added on in the final tab.

i can imagine so many people that don't see that ledger and tip on top of it too

Here they add it automatically if you are dining with a group over 4 people. I have seen that at a lot of places across the US.

Minte 03-07-2013 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by brassmonkey (Post 19516112)
its called a tip there is no regulation for it.

Tip (gratuity), a voluntary additional payment made for services rendered

Oh,ok...thanks

Supz 03-07-2013 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by scuba steve (Post 19516124)
i've been many places, so correct me if i'm wrong but i think only here in miami have i regularly seen gratuity added in on your bill automatically regardless of how many people you have with you. so if you're at a club/bar or a restaurant on lincoln road, you get your bill and there is already 18% added on in the final tab.

i can imagine so many people that don't see that ledger and tip on top of it too

In NY it depends on the place. It is usually 6 people or more. Miami has a lot of tourists so sometimes is can fuck people but most of the time it is to protect the waiters from getting screwed. In most other places of the world tipping is not a standard and when these people come to the US they don't leave anything. They are not aware that waiters get like 2-3 bucks an hour as minimum wage and survive off the tips.

scuba steve 03-07-2013 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Minte (Post 19516148)
Here they add it automatically if you are dining with a group over 4 people. I have seen that at a lot of places across the US.

yeah i've seen it always for 6 or more, heard about 4 before too. just here doesn't matter how many for dinner, could be by yourself haha

also when getting drinks at a club or bar they throw it on there no matter the amount or cost

scuba steve 03-07-2013 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Supz (Post 19516166)
In NY it depends on the place. It is usually 6 people or more. Miami has a lot of tourists so sometimes is can fuck people but most of the time it is to protect the waiters from getting screwed. In most other places of the world tipping is not a standard and when these people come to the US they don't leave anything. They are not aware that waiters get like 2-3 bucks an hour as minimum wage and survive off the tips.

yeah i get that, makes sense.

Dirty F 03-07-2013 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Supz (Post 19516166)
In NY it depends on the place. It is usually 6 people or more. Miami has a lot of tourists so sometimes is can fuck people but most of the time it is to protect the waiters from getting screwed. In most other places of the world tipping is not a standard and when these people come to the US they don't leave anything. They are not aware that waiters get like 2-3 bucks an hour as minimum wage and survive off the tips.

9 out of 10 places i went to in the US the waiters made crazy amounts of money because of the tips. Totally out of proportion.

shimmy2 03-07-2013 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude (Post 19515837)
there is no tipping

same with girls

Jel 03-07-2013 11:28 AM

I tip way too much for deliveries but it annoys the living fuck out of me when it's expected by others. Makes me want to never tip again, though of course I always do, and always too much. Seems the people receiving the tip moan a fuck of a lot less than other tippers do about someone else's tipping.

kane 03-07-2013 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirty F (Post 19515923)
In most other countries having a paid per hour employee works just fine.
The tipping culture is the US is completely retarded and NOT an example of how it should work.

While I haven't traveled as much as many people, most of the countries I have been to there was plenty of tipping. The worst was Egypt. You had to tip for everything. The public bathrooms have guys that stand in them expecting a tip. Most will at least hand you a paper towel to dry your hands with, but in many places they just stand there expecting a tip for being present and if you don't tip they start screaming at you and making a scene.

kane 03-07-2013 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Minte (Post 19516148)
Here they add it automatically if you are dining with a group over 4 people. I have seen that at a lot of places across the US.

Same here. Most places only seem to automatically add it for groups. Not too long ago a friend of mine got married. The company that did the catering for the reception added a gratuity to the bill and it actually became a big point of contention. They would have understood had there been a lot of service during the reception, but basically you chose what you wanted for your meal, they brought it and your beverage out and that was the last anyone ever saw of them. There was an open bar with a bar tender, but after the initial service there were no other servers. If you wanted more water or anything to drink you had to get it yourself.

georgeyw 03-07-2013 02:48 PM

Pretty sure i've said it before, but tipping only creates jobs that do not exist.

Everyone in the US does some extra (superfluous) job within their job and expects a tip. For example, a bus driver will help you get your bag in the bus and put his hand out.

Forget the fact that it is a tiny bag and you just walked 5k with it and had no problem. All of a sudden it costs you $5 to move it 1m.

spiederman 03-07-2013 02:49 PM

i round the bill up to 5 or 10 euro increments, why? cause the servers earn a decent wage in Europe

ErectMedia 03-07-2013 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 19516088)
thats more than a pizza costs over here :winkwink:

http://www.edwardos.com/menu.html :thumbsup

My Fucking Traffic 03-07-2013 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by kane (Post 19515854)
This brings about an interesting question. So lets say the industry changed. They did away with all tipping and the restaurant owners raised the wages of the servers so that they were equal to what they were making before with average tips. You know that cost is going to get passed on to you the customer.

Assume the average meal at this place is $20. Which would you rather have?

A. Your meal is $20 and you tip the server whatever you want based on how good you felt the server was so assume you tip 20% your meal would be $24.

B. There are no tips and your meal just costs $24 and you hope you get good service and if you don't your only means of showing your dissatisfaction is to complain.

To me, in the end, you are going to pay for the tip one way or another. Personally, I would like to have some control over it.

If I go into a restaurant and order a meal that costs $24 and I got exceptional service, and the staff was paid a realistic wage, I would not mind.

What I do mind is I go into a restaurant and order a meal that costs $20 and get scolded by staff because I didn't pay more than I should have, just to justify their reasons for having low paying jobs.

Don't give me a fucking sob story about how you're a full time student, work 2 full time jobs, and raise a kid all by yourself, I don't fucking care. I work for my money and I don't get tipped by my clients for doing what they are paying me to do.

Best way to get a tip? Do your fucking job and don't even give a fuck about the tip. Guy orders $150 meal and leaves a $5 tip, or orders a $10 meal and leaves a $15 tip... Just be happy someone went out of their way and paid more for their meal than they are required to. :2 cents:

It's when the self-entitlement kicks in and the staff basically requires the tip or you get dissatisfying service is when I start going somewhere else, and that's not gonna work out well for the restaurant, so not only are these people not getting tips, but they're also on the verge of losing their jobs due to either restaurant closing down due to lack of business, or hours being cut.

BFT3K 03-07-2013 08:27 PM

Impossible to know without the back story.

$17 for a pizza is way high, and if someone were to order 85 or these overpriced pies maybe the restaurant should have tipped the buyer with a discount.

Or maybe the customer was a dick... who knows...

Not enough info.

kane 03-07-2013 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by venusgal (Post 19517165)
If I go into a restaurant and order a meal that costs $24 and I got exceptional service, and the staff was paid a realistic wage, I would not mind.

What I do mind is I go into a restaurant and order a meal that costs $20 and get scolded by staff because I didn't pay more than I should have, just to justify their reasons for having low paying jobs.

Don't give me a fucking sob story about how you're a full time student, work 2 full time jobs, and raise a kid all by yourself, I don't fucking care. I work for my money and I don't get tipped by my clients for doing what they are paying me to do.

Best way to get a tip? Do your fucking job and don't even give a fuck about the tip. Guy orders $150 meal and leaves a $5 tip, or orders a $10 meal and leaves a $15 tip... Just be happy someone went out of their way and paid more for their meal than they are required to. :2 cents:

It's when the self-entitlement kicks in and the staff basically requires the tip or you get dissatisfying service is when I start going somewhere else, and that's not gonna work out well for the restaurant, so not only are these people not getting tips, but they're also on the verge of losing their jobs due to either restaurant closing down due to lack of business, or hours being cut.

Have you actually been scolded by wait staff for not tipping enough? I eat out a decent amount and have never had that happen. Most of the time I get what I would consider good service and I tip around 20% (more if it is a regular spot that I go to and really like). I have had a few times when I have gotten bad service, in a couple of those cases I tipped nothing, but I have never been scolded by staff for not tipping.

Still though, what if there were not tipping, your ordered the meal that cost $24 and got shitty service? Now what? At least with tipping in place you can choose to not pay that person extra since they did a bad job.

My Fucking Traffic 03-07-2013 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by kane (Post 19517238)
Have you actually been scolded by wait staff for not tipping enough? I eat out a decent amount and have never had that happen. Most of the time I get what I would consider good service and I tip around 20% (more if it is a regular spot that I go to and really like). I have had a few times when I have gotten bad service, in a couple of those cases I tipped nothing, but I have never been scolded by staff for not tipping.

Still though, what if there were not tipping, your ordered the meal that cost $24 and got shitty service? Now what? At least with tipping in place you can choose to not pay that person extra since they did a bad job.

Yes I have been scolded and ignored completely until I have just gotten up and walked out.

Quality of service should never be based on a tip, the tip should be based on the quality of service. :2 cents:

kane 03-07-2013 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by venusgal (Post 19517268)
Yes I have been scolded and ignored completely until I have just gotten up and walked out.

Quality of service should never be based on a tip, the tip should be based on the quality of service. :2 cents:

I wonder what the situation surrounding that was.

Here is why I say that. If you walk into a place for the fist time, or you only ever go there a few times per year they aren't going to know you or your tipping history so they shouldn't be basing the service they give you on their assumed tip. If they know you then it is a different situation.

Only twice have I had such terrible service that I won't go back to the place. At one place it was everything about the place. The first time we got there, got water and menus and it was 25 minutes before they took our orders and they only did it then when we hunted down someone to take the order. 30 minutes after that we still had no food. We were on our way to a movie so we had to go. As we left the manager apologized profusely and gave us a card worth 35% off our next visit. We gave them another shot. The next time we went in it again took forever to get an order and then the food took forever again. This time we ask our waitress what the delay is and she says in a real snarky tone, "You want me to go back there and cook it for you?" We left again. This time on the way out they explained that our first order got burnt and they were making it again. We didn't care, we just left. The second time was at a place that makes all kinds of good sandwiches. The food is actually really good, but they are notorious for having shitty service. I once didn't leave a tip and once left before my order came and I don't go back there now.

To me, if a person is working for tips they are likely to be more motivated to do a good job. If they know they are getting the same flat wage no matter if they bust their ass and really go the extra mile for you or they just to an average job more people will be likely to just tow the line.

bean-aid 03-07-2013 10:32 PM

Move decimal 1 place to the left, multiply by 2. Any less, cheapo, any more, showoff!

My Fucking Traffic 03-07-2013 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by kane (Post 19517284)
I wonder what the situation surrounding that was.

Here is why I say that. If you walk into a place for the fist time, or you only ever go there a few times per year they aren't going to know you or your tipping history so they shouldn't be basing the service they give you on their assumed tip. If they know you then it is a different situation.

Only twice have I had such terrible service that I won't go back to the place. At one place it was everything about the place. The first time we got there, got water and menus and it was 25 minutes before they took our orders and they only did it then when we hunted down someone to take the order. 30 minutes after that we still had no food. We were on our way to a movie so we had to go. As we left the manager apologized profusely and gave us a card worth 35% off our next visit. We gave them another shot. The next time we went in it again took forever to get an order and then the food took forever again. This time we ask our waitress what the delay is and she says in a real snarky tone, "You want me to go back there and cook it for you?" We left again. This time on the way out they explained that our first order got burnt and they were making it again. We didn't care, we just left. The second time was at a place that makes all kinds of good sandwiches. The food is actually really good, but they are notorious for having shitty service. I once didn't leave a tip and once left before my order came and I don't go back there now.

To me, if a person is working for tips they are likely to be more motivated to do a good job. If they know they are getting the same flat wage no matter if they bust their ass and really go the extra mile for you or they just to an average job more people will be likely to just tow the line.

I tip based on service... If I come in for a take out order, I rarely tip and if I do it's probably just the change to round up to an even bill amount... If you rarely do anything for me to deserve a tip, you're not gonna get one.

If I order food and come and pick it up, I should not have to leave you a tip because you picked up the phone, and wrote down the order... Now it'd be different if they were waiting on me eating in, but not when I come and pick it up. If I leave a tip it's for the cook, not you.

But if I order takeout and then decide to come in and sit down, and you do the quality of your job based on my tipping on a take out order, good luck getting another tip from me.

I will come in and sit there for an hour and wait, just to complain to your boss about the horrible service, then not leave a tip.

I can be an asshole too.

Socks 03-08-2013 06:54 AM

The worst part about tipping is the reactions of the wait staff when you make an unexpensive choice like water, or not having wine, etc. Especially here in Toronto, where there's 1,500 rules about tipping etiquette that must be adhered to. People here do things like tip based on the full price if an item is on sale, or tip as if they'd ordered wine just to keep themselves at an undeniable level of fair.

Then there's the 20% crowd who are insulted by 15% nowadays.. It's crazy.

mineistaken 03-08-2013 06:58 AM

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Originally Posted by alias (Post 19515420)
The tip debate!

lol, nice one :1orglaugh

Minte 03-08-2013 07:00 AM

I had a couple of friends that bartend at big casino bars in Vegas. One on them worked the sportsbar at Caesars. Back in the late 1990's he was making well over $120k annually on tips.

I haven't talked to him in a while but I know he still works there. He alway said it was the best job in the city. Not hard work,lots of women and guys that wanted to look good in front of those women by buying a $4 dollar glass of beer and paying for it with a 10 and saying keep the change..

PR_Glen 03-08-2013 07:13 AM

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Originally Posted by venusgal (Post 19517165)
If I go into a restaurant and order a meal that costs $24 and I got exceptional service, and the staff was paid a realistic wage, I would not mind.

What I do mind is I go into a restaurant and order a meal that costs $20 and get scolded by staff because I didn't pay more than I should have, just to justify their reasons for having low paying jobs.

Don't give me a fucking sob story about how you're a full time student, work 2 full time jobs, and raise a kid all by yourself, I don't fucking care. I work for my money and I don't get tipped by my clients for doing what they are paying me to do.

Best way to get a tip? Do your fucking job and don't even give a fuck about the tip. Guy orders $150 meal and leaves a $5 tip, or orders a $10 meal and leaves a $15 tip... Just be happy someone went out of their way and paid more for their meal than they are required to. :2 cents:

It's when the self-entitlement kicks in and the staff basically requires the tip or you get dissatisfying service is when I start going somewhere else, and that's not gonna work out well for the restaurant, so not only are these people not getting tips, but they're also on the verge of losing their jobs due to either restaurant closing down due to lack of business, or hours being cut.

I eat at restaurants quite often and I have never had anyone 'scold' me for tips before. I've never seen that happen to anyone I have been eating with either so I don't understand why this is happening to you. Where are you eating exactly?

My Fucking Traffic 03-08-2013 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by PR_Glen (Post 19517694)
I eat at restaurants quite often and I have never had anyone 'scold' me for tips before. I've never seen that happen to anyone I have been eating with either so I don't understand why this is happening to you. Where are you eating exactly?

Just because it doesn't happen to you, doesn't mean it doesn't happen. :winkwink:

adultchatpay 03-08-2013 09:54 AM

His signature tells more about himself, very phony!

tony286 03-08-2013 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by PR_Glen (Post 19517694)
I eat at restaurants quite often and I have never had anyone 'scold' me for tips before. I've never seen that happen to anyone I have been eating with either so I don't understand why this is happening to you. Where are you eating exactly?

I can see that happening someone busts his ass and gets $2 on $50 check
I tip 20 percent and I never get bad service because from the beginning I treat the wait staff like people not like my personal servants. I make it my mission to get a smile out of them. There are some places I go to they fall over themselves to be helpful, you would think he tips like Frank Sinatra and I dont.

TheGuyWhoKnows 03-08-2013 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Minte (Post 19515417)
Saw this on yahoo.
Guy orders 85 pizzas and leaves a $10 dollar tip.
I think $50 would have been appropriate.
Too little? Too much?

http://www.bikinipage.com/gfy/pizzatip.jpg


Yahoo Tip Article

well in canada, 15% is the norm...

SpicyM 03-08-2013 12:49 PM

Depends on the quality of the pizza, delivery time and attitude of the person.. :2 cents:

But then, the average tip in a standard restaurant here is between 0.50e - 2e :winkwink:


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