i've been many places, so correct me if i'm wrong but i think only here in miami have i regularly seen gratuity added in on your bill automatically regardless of how many people you have with you. so if you're at a club/bar or a restaurant on lincoln road, you get your bill and there is already 18% added on in the final tab.

i can imagine so many people that don't see that ledger and tip on top of it too

Here they add it automatically if you are dining with a group over 4 people. I have seen that at a lot of places across the US.

Oh,ok...thanks

In NY it depends on the place. It is usually 6 people or more. Miami has a lot of tourists so sometimes is can fuck people but most of the time it is to protect the waiters from getting screwed. In most other places of the world tipping is not a standard and when these people come to the US they don't leave anything. They are not aware that waiters get like 2-3 bucks an hour as minimum wage and survive off the tips.

yeah i've seen it always for 6 or more, heard about 4 before too. just here doesn't matter how many for dinner, could be by yourself haha

also when getting drinks at a club or bar they throw it on there no matter the amount or cost

yeah i get that, makes sense.

9 out of 10 places i went to in the US the waiters made crazy amounts of money because of the tips. Totally out of proportion.

same with girls

I tip way too much for deliveries but it annoys the living fuck out of me when it's expected by others. Makes me want to never tip again, though of course I always do, and always too much. Seems the people receiving the tip moan a fuck of a lot less than other tippers do about someone else's tipping.

While I haven't traveled as much as many people, most of the countries I have been to there was plenty of tipping. The worst was Egypt. You had to tip for everything. The public bathrooms have guys that stand in them expecting a tip. Most will at least hand you a paper towel to dry your hands with, but in many places they just stand there expecting a tip for being present and if you don't tip they start screaming at you and making a scene.

Same here. Most places only seem to automatically add it for groups. Not too long ago a friend of mine got married. The company that did the catering for the reception added a gratuity to the bill and it actually became a big point of contention. They would have understood had there been a lot of service during the reception, but basically you chose what you wanted for your meal, they brought it and your beverage out and that was the last anyone ever saw of them. There was an open bar with a bar tender, but after the initial service there were no other servers. If you wanted more water or anything to drink you had to get it yourself.

Pretty sure i've said it before, but tipping only creates jobs that do not exist.

Everyone in the US does some extra (superfluous) job within their job and expects a tip. For example, a bus driver will help you get your bag in the bus and put his hand out.

Forget the fact that it is a tiny bag and you just walked 5k with it and had no problem. All of a sudden it costs you $5 to move it 1m.

i round the bill up to 5 or 10 euro increments, why? cause the servers earn a decent wage in Europe

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If I go into a restaurant and order a meal that costs $24 and I got exceptional service, and the staff was paid a realistic wage, I would not mind.

What I do mind is I go into a restaurant and order a meal that costs $20 and get scolded by staff because I didn't pay more than I should have, just to justify their reasons for having low paying jobs.

Don't give me a fucking sob story about how you're a full time student, work 2 full time jobs, and raise a kid all by yourself, I don't fucking care. I work for my money and I don't get tipped by my clients for doing what they are paying me to do.

Best way to get a tip? Do your fucking job and don't even give a fuck about the tip. Guy orders $150 meal and leaves a $5 tip, or orders a $10 meal and leaves a $15 tip... Just be happy someone went out of their way and paid more for their meal than they are required to. :2 cents:

It's when the self-entitlement kicks in and the staff basically requires the tip or you get dissatisfying service is when I start going somewhere else, and that's not gonna work out well for the restaurant, so not only are these people not getting tips, but they're also on the verge of losing their jobs due to either restaurant closing down due to lack of business, or hours being cut.

Impossible to know without the back story.

$17 for a pizza is way high, and if someone were to order 85 or these overpriced pies maybe the restaurant should have tipped the buyer with a discount.

Or maybe the customer was a dick... who knows...

Not enough info.

Have you actually been scolded by wait staff for not tipping enough? I eat out a decent amount and have never had that happen. Most of the time I get what I would consider good service and I tip around 20% (more if it is a regular spot that I go to and really like). I have had a few times when I have gotten bad service, in a couple of those cases I tipped nothing, but I have never been scolded by staff for not tipping.

Still though, what if there were not tipping, your ordered the meal that cost $24 and got shitty service? Now what? At least with tipping in place you can choose to not pay that person extra since they did a bad job.

Yes I have been scolded and ignored completely until I have just gotten up and walked out.

Quality of service should never be based on a tip, the tip should be based on the quality of service. :2 cents:

I wonder what the situation surrounding that was.

Here is why I say that. If you walk into a place for the fist time, or you only ever go there a few times per year they aren't going to know you or your tipping history so they shouldn't be basing the service they give you on their assumed tip. If they know you then it is a different situation.

Only twice have I had such terrible service that I won't go back to the place. At one place it was everything about the place. The first time we got there, got water and menus and it was 25 minutes before they took our orders and they only did it then when we hunted down someone to take the order. 30 minutes after that we still had no food. We were on our way to a movie so we had to go. As we left the manager apologized profusely and gave us a card worth 35% off our next visit. We gave them another shot. The next time we went in it again took forever to get an order and then the food took forever again. This time we ask our waitress what the delay is and she says in a real snarky tone, "You want me to go back there and cook it for you?" We left again. This time on the way out they explained that our first order got burnt and they were making it again. We didn't care, we just left. The second time was at a place that makes all kinds of good sandwiches. The food is actually really good, but they are notorious for having shitty service. I once didn't leave a tip and once left before my order came and I don't go back there now.

To me, if a person is working for tips they are likely to be more motivated to do a good job. If they know they are getting the same flat wage no matter if they bust their ass and really go the extra mile for you or they just to an average job more people will be likely to just tow the line.

Move decimal 1 place to the left, multiply by 2. Any less, cheapo, any more, showoff!

I tip based on service... If I come in for a take out order, I rarely tip and if I do it's probably just the change to round up to an even bill amount... If you rarely do anything for me to deserve a tip, you're not gonna get one.

If I order food and come and pick it up, I should not have to leave you a tip because you picked up the phone, and wrote down the order... Now it'd be different if they were waiting on me eating in, but not when I come and pick it up. If I leave a tip it's for the cook, not you.

But if I order takeout and then decide to come in and sit down, and you do the quality of your job based on my tipping on a take out order, good luck getting another tip from me.

I will come in and sit there for an hour and wait, just to complain to your boss about the horrible service, then not leave a tip.

I can be an asshole too.

The worst part about tipping is the reactions of the wait staff when you make an unexpensive choice like water, or not having wine, etc. Especially here in Toronto, where there's 1,500 rules about tipping etiquette that must be adhered to. People here do things like tip based on the full price if an item is on sale, or tip as if they'd ordered wine just to keep themselves at an undeniable level of fair.

Then there's the 20% crowd who are insulted by 15% nowadays.. It's crazy.

lol, nice one :1orglaugh

I had a couple of friends that bartend at big casino bars in Vegas. One on them worked the sportsbar at Caesars. Back in the late 1990's he was making well over $120k annually on tips.

I haven't talked to him in a while but I know he still works there. He alway said it was the best job in the city. Not hard work,lots of women and guys that wanted to look good in front of those women by buying a $4 dollar glass of beer and paying for it with a 10 and saying keep the change..

I eat at restaurants quite often and I have never had anyone 'scold' me for tips before. I've never seen that happen to anyone I have been eating with either so I don't understand why this is happening to you. Where are you eating exactly?

Just because it doesn't happen to you, doesn't mean it doesn't happen. :winkwink:

His signature tells more about himself, very phony!

I can see that happening someone busts his ass and gets $2 on $50 check
I tip 20 percent and I never get bad service because from the beginning I treat the wait staff like people not like my personal servants. I make it my mission to get a smile out of them. There are some places I go to they fall over themselves to be helpful, you would think he tips like Frank Sinatra and I dont.

well in canada, 15% is the norm...

Depends on the quality of the pizza, delivery time and attitude of the person.. :2 cents:

But then, the average tip in a standard restaurant here is between 0.50e - 2e :winkwink:

Well written.

Tips are a voluntary, its your good will to give anything extra. Why the hell am I supposed to pay someone that is already paid by his/her boss? Logic behind that?

This is not a charity.

yeah paid $2 an hr ,yep they are paid big money.

A few weeks ago on Reddit they had an AMA (ask me anything) interview with a guy who used to be a knight at the Medieval Times restaurant (the one where you sit around a small arena and watch knights battle). He said the servers make more money than the knights do. Serving the food is actually fairly easy because everyone gets pretty much the same thing, the harder part is getting everyone drinks in a timely fashion. He said if a server was good at what they did and they played along with the crowd, insulting people, cheering and having fun, they could make $300-$400 a night in tips. Most servers worked 3-4 nights per week which worked out to about 30 hours per week. That is pretty good money.

Not my fault. :2 cents:

Tipping for catered events is definitely not standard. It's happens but not often and while I tip for a lot of stuff well I would be outraged if they tacked gratuity on a catering bill.

Catering servers are paid $10-25+ an hour, the catering company bills even more., this is not $2.50 an hr waiter in a restaurant type situation

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In fact, us Canucks have a different minimum wage for service people who get tips. Companies can pay less than minimum wage for pay pizza drivers, bartenders, waitresses, masseuses, etc. That's why 15% is the norm for us... and maybe why so many other countries like it when Canadian's travel there and give them a 15% tip :pimp

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For dining in a restaurant, maybe, but for a pizza delivery? I hardly think so. On this particular order that would be close to $200 bucks. Hey, if that's what you want to throw your money at I have no problem with it, but to me rounding that bill up to $1500 would have been more than fine.

Giving the deliver person ten bucks on a $1400+ order is like telling the poor schmuch he and his job are all but worthless. Get an order in the future from the same guy and he's liable to add snot instead of the extra cheese you ordered. :2 cents:

They do here in the US also about $2 an hour. Some people want to feel their being cheap is a way of making a statement. Nope its just being cheap.

I typically tip up to 10% for delivery. I think $50 here would have sufficed though. Anything less than that is fuckin cheap. If you can cough up $1400 to have 85 pizzas delivered to you, then you can give the guy $50.

When in the US 15-20% at a restaurant and 20-25% at bars

yup... the bars have that $1 tip thing going on. Make a cocktail that takes more then 10 seconds, $2 for that drink.

I leave a 20% tip at restaurants. For pizza delivery (normal like $20-$30 I give them $4)

Did he deliver the pizzas well?

Tips from my POV are performance based...

If the pizza arrived pristine, he got them there hot, had a smile on his face, etc... I'd have rounded it to 1,500.00
If he had a sorry attitude, got thm there cold etc... Less would be appropriate.
Without knowing how he was, its impossible to say if 10.00 was too much or too little.

Math is hard. True story.

i mean c'mon --- 10% is ok, aint it? he will be back - and then no-one has spit on yers ;)

In Australia tipping is entirely voluntary. The only time I've actually seen mention of a tip on my credit card receipt was at a computer shop that had their system misconfigured. I made sure I wrote NIL in the tip field, wasn't going to give them a tip for fetching a graphics card off the shelf. :thumbsup

Since we are on the topic of tipping. Why do we tip people who cut hair. Someone that works at a place like Supercuts gets paid on a sliding scale. They are guaranteed minimum wage, but if they sell more (like wash and blowdry, perm etc) they can make more. The think I just read said that the average stylist there makes between $9-$15 per hour not counting tips. Still, everyone tips them.

I used to work at Radio Shack (many many years ago) and was guaranteed minimum wage then also made commission so if I sold a good amount I made more). I solved countless problems for people and helped tons of people out and never got a tip. In high school I worked at a small store and often pumped gas. In the year that I worked there I got tipped twice, both of them came at Christmas. One was a random couple that gave me $5 and told me they appreciated my service in the shitty weather (it was wet and cold) and one was $100 from a guy who came in almost every day and filled his truck up. The truck was a pain in the ass to fuel up so I would break the rules and let him operate the pump so he could fill his truck while I helped other people. He said he tipped me because I was the only one that would let him operate the pump and he appreciated it.

It is odd to me how we decide which jobs are tip worthy and which are not.

As a kid i did that goto pizza hut eat and leave type attitude HaHa that would suck for the waitress as well probably.