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  • Mutt
    Too lazy to set a custom title
    • Sep 2002
    • 34431
    #1

    Which industry scumbag is behind this never ending scam?

    It's bad enough tube sites steal content and profit from it, suck traffic away from legit sites but that's not enough for them - they all are involved with this x-sale scam that's been going on as long as I can remember with the same websites/names on the x-sale to a 'free lifetime access' paysite.

    This is from a menu link titled 'HD Videos' on Hardsextube.com, surfer is led to believe he can see HD versions of the vids he's watching on the tube for FREE - he's presented with a join page that of course tells him it's for age verification only and he's getting lifetime access.

    Here's the x-sale mess, Premier Passport has no URL, there is no PremierPassport.com. How does VISA/MC allow that? If you look at the footnotes for the x-sales there's a notice that if one of the 'limited offers' isn't available they will substitute another paysite to sign you up to - in this case 'AgameGirlz.com' - LOL, go to that website, it's a Flash game site for little girls.

    Surely some anon troll on here knows whose scam this is, obviously somebody very well known to the bro club - or what's left of it.

    ************************************************** ***************
    By pressing 'Click for Free Access' I certify that I have read and agree to the complete terms of membership and billing and that the card entered above is my credit card.

    (**) Your Free Lifetime access to FreeHDAccess includes a free 2 day trial promo to Premier Passport, our sister site. TO AVOID BEING CHARGED, SIMPLY CANCEL YOUR PREMIER PASSPORT MEMBERSHIP BEFORE THE TRIAL PERIOD ENDS. Your Premier Passport membership will renew at $39.95/month, or the then applicable rate, unless cancelled. Your lifetime access to FreeHDAccess remains active even if you cancel your Premier Passport membership.

    Any charges made to your card will appear under 'VIEWINFOS.COM'
    + Your Platinum Membership Details++:
    - XXXHDVault.com - 10 Days Free Trial, membership renews at $29.95/monthly, unless cancelled.
    - EroticDvdsOnline.com - 7 Days Free Trial, membership renews at $49.95/monthly, unless cancelled.

    ++ If you do not qualify for the above Limited Time offers, the following offers may be substituted instead:
    - AgameGirlz.com - Free 2 Day Trial, recurring at $39.42 monthly, until cancelled..
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    • Oracle Porn
      Affiliate
      • Oct 2002
      • 24433
      #2
      it's the same guys you see here posting daily getting praises and bro drinks


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        • Mutt
          Too lazy to set a custom title
          • Sep 2002
          • 34431
          #3
          Originally posted by Oracle Porn
          it's the same guys you see here posting daily getting praises and bro drinks
          but who are they? i know nothing will ever change - i'm just curious who runs the scam.
          I moved my sites to Vacares Hosting. I've saved money, my hair is thicker, lost some weight too! Thanks Sly!

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            • Markul
              Likes Pie
              • Dec 2007
              • 12403
              #4
              Uh that's pretty bad
              But.... I pulled out...

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                • Oracle Porn
                  Affiliate
                  • Oct 2002
                  • 24433
                  #5
                  Originally posted by Mutt
                  but who are they? i know nothing will ever change - i'm just curious who runs the scam.
                  Are you really curious?
                  a 5 minute google search brings up all the names


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                    • Mutt
                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                      • Sep 2002
                      • 34431
                      #6
                      Originally posted by Oracle Porn
                      Are you really curious?
                      a 5 minute google search brings up all the names
                      did a google search on 'Premier Passport scam' - saw complaints but no names.
                      I moved my sites to Vacares Hosting. I've saved money, my hair is thicker, lost some weight too! Thanks Sly!

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                        • signupdamnit
                          Confirmed User
                          • Aug 2007
                          • 6697
                          #7
                          Looks like there is an association of some sort with Crakrevenue.

                          http://m.gfy.com/showpost.php?p=18964483&postcount=215
                          http://m.gfy.com/showpost.php?p=18964507&postcount=216

                          csmembers.com:

                          http://800notes.com/forum/ta-60a117e...omatic-renewal
                          http://www.scambook.com/company/view...il-CSCSMembers (3DToonTubeHD.com)

                          https://sites.google.com/site/csmemberscomisascam/home

                          So you?re thinking about signing up with CSMEMBERS.COM to access the content in one of its many sites. Well before you do let me tell you about how the company works. I think you will change your mind after I do.

                          The strategy is simple....sell you content you desperately want but give you content that barely meet the criteria for adult material and there legal obligation. Secondly, they create a terms and condition that is violated by you the moment you view any content, thus negating any legal recourse you may have had. And they make all the money off the people who by chance fail to cancel from there very short 2 day trial. (actually less than 2 days, the day you sign up, mostly at night, counts for a full 24 hours which in some cases give you only 24 hours left and some change, also it does not matter what time you started, it ends at midnight, which for many people is not usable time further reducing your cancelation time to less than 24 hours). Allot of people try to get the most out of the trial and that is what burns you. They gave no confirmation email I think that way stupid people can't figure out how to cancel.

                          Here is what you actually get:

                          A STEAMING PILE OF NORMAL ASIAN PORN THAT IS HORRIBLE

                          Some of the sites that are used to advertise there content are:

                          http://3dvidtube.com/

                          http://toonvidtube.com/
                          http://gfvidtube.com/
                          http://monsterpornvids.com/

                          http://omggfs.com/
                          Looks like there is some type of association with porntube.com as well.

                          http://www.complaintsboard.com/compl...m-c343052.html

                          Looks like lots of Bros are running these offers. Btw you mentioned this last year too http://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=1079970

                          You don't like my posts? Put me on ignore or fuck right off. I'll say what I want.

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                            • signupdamnit
                              Confirmed User
                              • Aug 2007
                              • 6697
                              #8

                              How do I cancel the subscription to premier passport and XXXHDVault?
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                              The email said this
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                              I just wanted the FreeToonPornTubeHD so How do I cancel the other 2?

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                              Asked By anonymous 370 days ago

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                              anonymous
                              punishtube.com and it's affiliated sites gives you way to cancel your premier account status, some people just dont know how to search or explore properly...

                              try this method:
                              how to cancel punishtube premium membership:
                              go to this site
                              http://www.csmembers.com
                              then click "Membership" - manage Memberships
                              place your info's upon your registration on pornsite
                              then deactivate your subscription..

                              easy.. explore explore guys.. and read the written paragraphs before signing up.. there are checked boxes that gives you access to other boxes with some amount needed, read carefully or on pinoy layman's terms "Basa basa din kasi"

                              http://www.upanswers.com/question?id=8676

                              I found this one kind of sad and funny at the same time:

                              http://www.lpsg.com/255985-i-got-scammed.html

                              Notice all the people saying "You paid for porn?" and then notice the complaints about the quality. That's a good laugh considering some of these people like to come on here and say things like "adapt or die. People aren't paying because the content is crap" and look at what they are offering the surfer.

                              You don't like my posts? Put me on ignore or fuck right off. I'll say what I want.

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                                • privatesociety
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Jan 2013
                                  • 567
                                  #9
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                                    • signupdamnit
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • Aug 2007
                                      • 6697
                                      #10
                                      More leads. This is from the 3dtoontubehd.com connection. Possible connections to hookupbucks/ Max cash and CEcash according to others.

                                      doing a bit more digging on the 3Dtoontube index page...

                                      The footer links reff the following:

                                      Members link = 3dtoontubehd . com / members /

                                      Customer Service Link = an email addy for freeanime4life (cash traffic)

                                      2257 link = BLACKBRIAR MEDIA LTD

                                      top google result for BlackBriar Media = flirtbookdate . com / support / index . php

                                      Which is hookupbucks / max cash

                                      When you first fill out the join form and hit the submit (prior to entering CC info) The browser statusbar loads something from pornofications.com

                                      3dtoontubehd.com
                                      As I reff above the members link leads to 3dtoontubehd.com going there gives you two links MEMBERS and SIGNUP the signup link leads to
                                      pornofications.com a ccbill billed corp name: Trussel Limited,)

                                      Credit card info page:

                                      no matter what you get a 2 day trial to "Premier Passport" (anyone who this is from?)


                                      Xsells on MY LOAD are:

                                      XXXHDVault.com (Visit that site and see members and join link, join link = amateurfuckzone.com a ccbill billed site Brainard Entertainment Ltd)

                                      EroticDvdsOnline.com (exact same as above BUT diff logo and corp name and addy: Arling Limited

                                      BOTH of those two sites are "Join for free" sites
                                      so there are prolly even more xsells involved but I'm not about to enter in MY credit card info to find out for sure lol

                                      wrapping up
                                      What I see here is someone with 3 diff ccbill sites all using the exact same templates with 3 diff company name and addresses, support info goes to one sponsor and 2257 info goes to another program, the 2257 page itself looks like it was ripped right from maxcash and colors altered (I'd have to copy/paste the actual html to be sure)

                                      the funniest thing I see IS the 2257 page, there are ZERO Toon producers on that list (we normally DO furnish that type of info to our buyers even though we create toons and not human content) and the studios that ARE listed in bulk have ZERO to do with ANYTHING cartoon related (so why have them on a TOON site??)

                                      So that's 3DToonTube as I can see it

                                      -Loki-
                                      http://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=1032537

                                      Looks like it's been going on for years. These guys are ultra rich by now. I wouldn't be surprised to see this thread self destruct soon so get the info while you can.

                                      You don't like my posts? Put me on ignore or fuck right off. I'll say what I want.

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                                        • sojproductions
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • Aug 2006
                                          • 2160
                                          #11
                                          I'd like to think these people struggle to sleep at night, unfortunately, I doubt it. Scum through and through, no better than shoplifters.
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                                            • purecane
                                              Annakin Skywalker
                                              • Jan 2013
                                              • 1324
                                              #12
                                              it's pretty easy to find out who it is....2 programs and 2 affiliates.....just follow the $$$$$... that means cc page...(hint: URLs)

                                              you sell them all content and then slap them on the back when they pay
                                              [email protected]

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                                                • Konda
                                                  ...
                                                  • Apr 2003
                                                  • 2280
                                                  #13
                                                  Usually it's CECash people

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                                                    • Traffic Guru
                                                      Confirmed User
                                                      • Jan 2011
                                                      • 357
                                                      #14
                                                      Originally posted by Mutt
                                                      It's bad enough tube sites steal content and profit from it, suck traffic away from legit sites but that's not enough for them - they all are involved with this x-sale scam that's been going on as long as I can remember with the same websites/names on the x-sale to a 'free lifetime access' paysite.

                                                      This is from a menu link titled 'HD Videos' on Hardsextube.com, surfer is led to believe he can see HD versions of the vids he's watching on the tube for FREE - he's presented with a join page that of course tells him it's for age verification only and he's getting lifetime access.

                                                      Here's the x-sale mess, Premier Passport has no URL, there is no PremierPassport.com. How does VISA/MC allow that? If you look at the footnotes for the x-sales there's a notice that if one of the 'limited offers' isn't available they will substitute another paysite to sign you up to - in this case 'AgameGirlz.com' - LOL, go to that website, it's a Flash game site for little girls.

                                                      Surely some anon troll on here knows whose scam this is, obviously somebody very well known to the bro club - or what's left of it.

                                                      ************************************************** ***************
                                                      By pressing 'Click for Free Access' I certify that I have read and agree to the complete terms of membership and billing and that the card entered above is my credit card.

                                                      (**) Your Free Lifetime access to FreeHDAccess includes a free 2 day trial promo to Premier Passport, our sister site. TO AVOID BEING CHARGED, SIMPLY CANCEL YOUR PREMIER PASSPORT MEMBERSHIP BEFORE THE TRIAL PERIOD ENDS. Your Premier Passport membership will renew at $39.95/month, or the then applicable rate, unless cancelled. Your lifetime access to FreeHDAccess remains active even if you cancel your Premier Passport membership.

                                                      Any charges made to your card will appear under 'VIEWINFOS.COM'
                                                      + Your Platinum Membership Details++:
                                                      - XXXHDVault.com - 10 Days Free Trial, membership renews at $29.95/monthly, unless cancelled.
                                                      - EroticDvdsOnline.com - 7 Days Free Trial, membership renews at $49.95/monthly, unless cancelled.

                                                      ++ If you do not qualify for the above Limited Time offers, the following offers may be substituted instead:
                                                      - AgameGirlz.com - Free 2 Day Trial, recurring at $39.42 monthly, until cancelled..
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                                                      12clickscash.com

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                                                        • Konda
                                                          ...
                                                          • Apr 2003
                                                          • 2280
                                                          #15
                                                          Just did a little bit of research and it's 100% CeCash

                                                          HardSexTube HD signup form is hosted on sinfulgayfantasy.com
                                                          which has the same IP as for example crazylatinpornfiends.com

                                                          Check the joinpage of and compare it to one of CECash sites (like for example tour.boobies.com), 100% identical, same custom billing scripts and layout etc.

                                                          Everything in this setup points to CECash, domains, IPs, join forms, source code in join forms, everything is 100% them

                                                          I haven't looked into who they are sending the xsales to, but probably 12clicks etc.

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                                                            • ahoy
                                                              Confirmed User
                                                              • Mar 2003
                                                              • 512
                                                              #16
                                                              They buy up an insane amount of tube banner spots, easily $xx, xxx /day in ad spend. Always thought crak had something to do with it. I checked out the "members" area awhile back. Seemed like premier passport was shitty adult centro feeds, and you get access to a tube style site with just old shitty content.

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                                                                • DWB
                                                                  Registered User
                                                                  • Jul 2003
                                                                  • 31779
                                                                  #17
                                                                  bros before hoes

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                                                                    • seeandsee
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                                                                      • 50945
                                                                      #18
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                                                                        • The Porn Nerd
                                                                          Living The Dream
                                                                          • Jun 2009
                                                                          • 19787
                                                                          #19
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                                                                            • Fat Panda
                                                                              Porn is Dead. Move along.
                                                                              • Aug 2006
                                                                              • 13296
                                                                              #20
                                                                              scumbags like this fuck us all

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                                                                                • Far-L
                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                  • Feb 2002
                                                                                  • 6065
                                                                                  #21
                                                                                  From the book of Revelations:

                                                                                  And the many headed beast, whose name cannot be spoken, lest the lawyers of the damned shall rise and carry with them the Decrees of the Dead, and bring sadness and decay to the land, offering a catalog of mortal sins against those that spoke with tongues of magnetic plastic, saying twelve times "Ye shall perish amid the bill that is paid with pounds of flesh and blood and semen for interest in the naked and the meek, never settled, and be always found in arrears until a white dog whose mouth froths with rabid cravings will devour the bitter feces of ten thousand vestal virgins sullied by Ron Jeremy.
                                                                                  HomegrownCash.com, the affiliate program of Homegrown Video - The Largest Collection of Amateur XXX - Est. 1982.
                                                                                  Contact                                                                                   - Email: farrell AT homegrownvideo D com Skype: hgfarl
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                                                                                    • Jman
                                                                                      Already an AI veteran
                                                                                      • Sep 2003
                                                                                      • 22838
                                                                                      #22
                                                                                      Originally posted by Far-L
                                                                                      From the book of Revelations:

                                                                                      And the many headed beast, whose name cannot be spoken, lest the lawyers of the damned shall rise and carry with them the Decrees of the Dead, and bring sadness and decay to the land, offering a catalog of mortal sins against those that spoke with tongues of magnetic plastic, saying twelve times "Ye shall perish amid the bill that is paid with pounds of flesh and blood and semen for interest in the naked and the meek, never settled, and be always found in arrears until a white dog whose mouth froths with rabid cravings will devour the bitter feces of ten thousand vestal virgins sullied by Ron Jeremy.
                                                                                      Holy Hell, this is pure gold Far-L
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                                                                                        • Legendary Samir - BANNED FOR LIFE
                                                                                          So Fucking Banned
                                                                                          • Jun 2007
                                                                                          • 1442
                                                                                          #23
                                                                                          I x-sale my cat's blog for $99.99 per week. Not a single refund since 2008.

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                                                                                            • alias
                                                                                              aliasx
                                                                                              • Apr 2001
                                                                                              • 19010
                                                                                              #24
                                                                                              Need to ask hdkiller who pays for the ad I guess.. .
                                                                                              https://porncorporation.com

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                                                                                                • My Fucking Traffic
                                                                                                  So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                  • Jun 2004
                                                                                                  • 996
                                                                                                  #25
                                                                                                  Originally posted by alias
                                                                                                  Need to ask hdkiller who pays for the ad I guess.. .
                                                                                                  Talked to him this morning about it and he said he was already on the ball taking care of it.

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                                                                                                    • Gator
                                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                                      • Feb 2002
                                                                                                      • 1119
                                                                                                      #26
                                                                                                      Originally posted by sojproductions
                                                                                                      I'd like to think these people struggle to sleep at night, unfortunately, I doubt it. Scum through and through, no better than shoplifters.
                                                                                                      People like this sleep well at night because they have no conscience.

                                                                                                      They are greed a-holes and would fuck their mother.

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                                                                                                        • alias
                                                                                                          aliasx
                                                                                                          • Apr 2001
                                                                                                          • 19010
                                                                                                          #27
                                                                                                          Same old scammy quick buck at any cost shit.. .
                                                                                                          https://porncorporation.com

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                                                                                                            • StinkyPink
                                                                                                              It's all goooood.
                                                                                                              • Aug 2009
                                                                                                              • 1591
                                                                                                              #28
                                                                                                              This could be huge.

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                                                                                                                • Gator
                                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                                  • Feb 2002
                                                                                                                  • 1119
                                                                                                                  #29
                                                                                                                  Originally posted by StinkyPink
                                                                                                                  This could be huge.
                                                                                                                  What do you mean?

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                                                                                                                    • 2013
                                                                                                                      So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                                      • Dec 2012
                                                                                                                      • 4390
                                                                                                                      #30
                                                                                                                      Originally posted by StinkyPink
                                                                                                                      This could be huge.

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                                                                                                                        • Matt 26z
                                                                                                                          So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                                          • Apr 2002
                                                                                                                          • 18481
                                                                                                                          #31
                                                                                                                          Originally posted by StinkyPink
                                                                                                                          This could be huge.
                                                                                                                          Doubt it.

                                                                                                                          It's the boom era dinosaur club. Everyone knows 90% of them still in the industry are up to no good.

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                                                                                                                            • lucas131
                                                                                                                              ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
                                                                                                                              • Aug 2004
                                                                                                                              • 11475
                                                                                                                              #32
                                                                                                                              cecash scammers are running this unlimited lifetime access sites for years, and 12clickcash is great supporter of that shit, dont understand why 12click fuckhead is still able to post his shit here, doing like he is big guy who knows everything but he is one of the biggest scammers who are bringing this industry down cause of those prechecked hells ... and cecash, no comment, stupid motherfuckers

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                                                                                                                                • Far-L
                                                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                  • Feb 2002
                                                                                                                                  • 6065
                                                                                                                                  #33
                                                                                                                                  More revelations

                                                                                                                                  Lo, on the eighth day, the Harlot regurgitated that which would neither stay down, nor stand up in court, since the guilty were declared innocent and free to do whatever to whomever they so chose, and doing this, thus did cause the lamentations of the innocent to make everyone feel guilty. Whereupon, a fire of a thousand questions spread like fear to the herd that cannot hide from the storm and stampedes in terror from the lightning of ideas that never strikes in the same place twice.
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                                                                                                                                  Contact                                                                                                                                   - Email: farrell AT homegrownvideo D com Skype: hgfarl
                                                                                                                                  Newsweek Magazine - "Homegrown Video, the longest running series in the history of porn."

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                                                                                                                                    • Mutt
                                                                                                                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                      • Sep 2002
                                                                                                                                      • 34431
                                                                                                                                      #34
                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by Far-L
                                                                                                                                      Lo, on the eighth day, the Harlot regurgitated that which would neither stay down, nor stand up in court, since the guilty were declared innocent and free to do whatever to whomever they so chose, and doing this, thus did cause the lamentations of the innocent to make everyone feel guilty. Whereupon, a fire of a thousand questions spread like fear to the herd that cannot hide from the storm and stampedes in terror from the lightning of ideas that never strikes in the same place twice.
                                                                                                                                      ha that's some fine Biblical writing - i thought perhaps it was actual Bible scripture but Google turned up nothing.

                                                                                                                                      and yeah I was pretty sure it was Mr. CE's hands all over that scam but wanted somebody to confirm it.

                                                                                                                                      i'm going to assume he's a non-believing Jew. Judaism is not a forgiving religion, you do bad things, you and your descendants pay for them.
                                                                                                                                      I moved my sites to Vacares Hosting. I've saved money, my hair is thicker, lost some weight too! Thanks Sly!

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                                                                                                                                        • CamTraffic
                                                                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                          • Feb 2008
                                                                                                                                          • 6538
                                                                                                                                          #35
                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by Konda
                                                                                                                                          Just did a little bit of research and it's 100% CeCash

                                                                                                                                          HardSexTube HD signup form is hosted on sinfulgayfantasy.com
                                                                                                                                          which has the same IP as for example crazylatinpornfiends.com

                                                                                                                                          Check the joinpage of and compare it to one of CECash sites (like for example tour.boobies.com), 100% identical, same custom billing scripts and layout etc.

                                                                                                                                          Everything in this setup points to CECash, domains, IPs, join forms, source code in join forms, everything is 100% them

                                                                                                                                          I haven't looked into who they are sending the xsales to, but probably 12clicks etc.
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                                                                                                                                            • MrDeiz
                                                                                                                                              SignBucksDaily.com
                                                                                                                                              • May 2008
                                                                                                                                              • 9802
                                                                                                                                              #36
                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by Mutt
                                                                                                                                              i'm going to assume he's a non-believing Jew. Judaism is not a forgiving religion, you do bad things, you and your descendants pay for them.
                                                                                                                                              wrong. actually talmud allows jews to do all kinds of scam to goi's
                                                                                                                                              afaik original text refers to molesting goi's children (pre-18) which is ok

                                                                                                                                              the thing you say might only work in relation to his fellow jews.
                                                                                                                                              Last edited by MrDeiz; 03-01-2013, 03:47 AM.
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                                                                                                                                                • brentbacardi
                                                                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                  • Nov 2009
                                                                                                                                                  • 1425
                                                                                                                                                  #37
                                                                                                                                                  If you are going to xsell why not make it to an actual porn site? Then at least it makes sense...
                                                                                                                                                  Go Fuck Yourself!

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                                                                                                                                                    • Mutt
                                                                                                                                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                                      • Sep 2002
                                                                                                                                                      • 34431
                                                                                                                                                      #38
                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by MrDeiz
                                                                                                                                                      wrong. actually talmud allows jews to do all kinds of scam to goi's
                                                                                                                                                      afaik original text refers to molesting goi's children (pre-18) which is ok


                                                                                                                                                      if true that's hysterical - time to google.
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                                                                                                                                                        • signupdamnit
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                                                                                                                                                          • Aug 2007
                                                                                                                                                          • 6697
                                                                                                                                                          #39
                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by Mutt


                                                                                                                                                          if true that's hysterical - time to google.
                                                                                                                                                          I'm not an expert on Judaism but I don't think this is actually true.

                                                                                                                                                          http://talmud.faithweb.com/articles/three.html

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                                                                                                                                                            • signupdamnit
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                                                                                                                                                              • Aug 2007
                                                                                                                                                              • 6697
                                                                                                                                                              #40
                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by brentbacardi
                                                                                                                                                              If you are going to xsell why not make it to an actual porn site? Then at least it makes sense...
                                                                                                                                                              There is likely the realization that very few willingly rebill or even know about the xsell. I suspect the xsell to something other than porn has to do with trying to get around bank protections or easy chargebacks. Real scumbag type stuff.

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                                                                                                                                                                • TheSquealer
                                                                                                                                                                  Mayor of Thneedville
                                                                                                                                                                  • Oct 2004
                                                                                                                                                                  • 26174
                                                                                                                                                                  #41
                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by signupdamnit
                                                                                                                                                                  I'm not an expert on Judaism but I don't think this is actually true.

                                                                                                                                                                  http://talmud.faithweb.com/articles/three.html
                                                                                                                                                                  The old Testament, Qu'ran, Talmud all say a great many impossibly stupid, cruel, barbaric and otherwise indefensible things which are defended by "interpretations" of theologians.

                                                                                                                                                                  Ideas can't survive if they can't defend themselves.

                                                                                                                                                                  Obviously these ideas (the belief systems) have evolved to defend themselves well as they continue to persist.

                                                                                                                                                                  That doesn't change the fact that a bunch of cave dwellers had some pretty savage and uncivilized ideas (though more appropriate in their time) about right, wrong and morality and wrote them down in books.
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                                                                                                                                                                  Yes, fewer illegal immigrants working equates to more job opportunities for American citizens.

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                                                                                                                                                                    • signupdamnit
                                                                                                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                      • Aug 2007
                                                                                                                                                                      • 6697
                                                                                                                                                                      #42
                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by TheSquealer
                                                                                                                                                                      The old Testament, Qu'ran, Talmud all say a great many impossibly stupid, cruel, barbaric and otherwise indefensible things which are defended by "interpretations" of theologians.

                                                                                                                                                                      Ideas can't survive if they can't defend themselves.

                                                                                                                                                                      Obviously these ideas (the belief systems) have evolved to defend themselves well as they continue to persist.

                                                                                                                                                                      That doesn't change the fact that a bunch of cave dwellers had some pretty savage and uncivilized ideas (though more appropriate in their time) about right, wrong and morality and wrote them down in books.
                                                                                                                                                                      This is true. But in 1,000 years some of the things we see as right today will almost definitely be seen as barbaric and wrong. More than likely we too will be seen as savages and not just for our lack of technology.

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                                                                                                                                                                        • candyflip
                                                                                                                                                                          Carpe Visio
                                                                                                                                                                          • Jul 2002
                                                                                                                                                                          • 43069
                                                                                                                                                                          #43
                                                                                                                                                                          So 12clicks = scumbag? Who'd a thunk it?

                                                                                                                                                                          Spend you some brain.
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                                                                                                                                                                            • 12clicks
                                                                                                                                                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                                                              • Jan 2001
                                                                                                                                                                              • 19813
                                                                                                                                                                              #44
                                                                                                                                                                              I am shocked and appalled. My people will be getting to the bottom of this.
                                                                                                                                                                              meanwhile, finish cleaning your mothers' basement.
                                                                                                                                                                              I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

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                                                                                                                                                                                • Oracle Porn
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                                                                                                                                                                                  • Oct 2002
                                                                                                                                                                                  • 24433
                                                                                                                                                                                  #45
                                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by Mutt


                                                                                                                                                                                  if true that's hysterical - time to google.
                                                                                                                                                                                  its true because someone said it on gfy


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                                                                                                                                                                                    • signupdamnit
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                                                                                                                                                                                      • Aug 2007
                                                                                                                                                                                      • 6697
                                                                                                                                                                                      #46
                                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by Traffic Guru
                                                                                                                                                                                      TraceRoute from Network-Tools.com to 66.115.143.135 [agamegirlz.com]

                                                                                                                                                                                      TraceRoute from Network-Tools.com to 66.115.143.135 [blastedhardcore.com]

                                                                                                                                                                                      Scroll down to Webmasters tab on blastedhardcore.com

                                                                                                                                                                                      12clickscash.com
                                                                                                                                                                                      Looks like someone is trying to hide it but you can see a copy of blastedhardcore.com from jan 2013 here and it shows the webmaster link to 12clickscash.com

                                                                                                                                                                                      http://web.archive.org/web/201301170...dhardcore.com/

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                                                                                                                                                                                        • signupdamnit
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                                                                                                                                                                                          • Aug 2007
                                                                                                                                                                                          • 6697
                                                                                                                                                                                          #47
                                                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by 12clicks
                                                                                                                                                                                          I am shocked and appalled. My people will be getting to the bottom of this.
                                                                                                                                                                                          meanwhile, finish cleaning your mothers' basement.
                                                                                                                                                                                          Someone has brass balls for that agamegirlz.com trick. Either that or they like welfare. I'd say there exists a good chance it could evetually lead to some free room and board courtesy of Obama and the Justice department.

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                                                                                                                                                                                            • CDSmith
                                                                                                                                                                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                                                                              • May 2001
                                                                                                                                                                                              • 51460
                                                                                                                                                                                              #48
                                                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by candyflip
                                                                                                                                                                                              So 12clicks = scumbag? Who'd a thunk it?
                                                                                                                                                                                              Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.
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                                                                                                                                                                                                • Matt 26z
                                                                                                                                                                                                  So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                                                                                                                  • Apr 2002
                                                                                                                                                                                                  • 18481
                                                                                                                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by 12clicks
                                                                                                                                                                                                  finish cleaning your mothers' basement.
                                                                                                                                                                                                  The funny thing is, that's right where you'd be if you ever stopped tricking people into buying into your paysites through X sales. Really, what else are you capable of at this stage?

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                                                                                                                                                                                                    • Mutt
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                                                                                      • Sep 2002
                                                                                                                                                                                                      • 34431
                                                                                                                                                                                                      #50
                                                                                                                                                                                                      wow the Talmud if what I have been reading is true is filled with more idiocy than GFY and makes Mein Kampf look good. The anti-semitic sites are filled with quotes from the Talmud - talk about giving your enemies ammunition. These are quotes from the Babylonian Talmud, need to do more reading to see how it differs from other versions of the Talmud.

                                                                                                                                                                                                      I guarantee that not 1 in 1000 modern Jews know what's in the Talmud. It does say it's ok to screw non Jews out of money, and a whole lot more including a ton of references to pedastry(child molesting)
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