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Old 02-24-2013, 02:07 PM   #1
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Hey Sleazy, you need to study your history some.

But it was a good try

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For those Americans that think Canadians are pacifists, remember your history. On August 24, 1814, after defeating the Americans at the Battle of Bladensburg, a Canadian force led by Major General Robert Ross occupied Washington, D.C. and set fire to many public buildings. The facilities of the U.S. government, including the White House and U.S. Capitol, were largely destroyed....Canada, a British colony at the time, raised the union jack over Washington -From Wikipedia

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On August 24, 1814, after defeating the Americans at the Battle of Bladensburg, a British force led by Major General Robert Ross occupied Washington, D.C. and set fire to many public buildings. The facilities of the U.S. government, including the White House and U.S. Capitol, were largely destroyed........British raised their Union Flag over Washington
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Contrary to popular belief, Canadian militia were not present at the burning of Washington; General Ross and over 4,000 British regulars landed on the eastern coast of Maryland and march inland. They were met by 6,000 American militia near Bladensburg. Although the Americans had more men, they weren't a match for the British regulars, and neither was their commander. The American army fled, and the redcoats marched into Washington.

So although the White House WAS burned down in the War of 1812, Canadians were not present in the battle; the victors were British regulars who crossed the Atlantic and landed in Maryland.
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5. The Burning of Washington was Capital Payback

To Americans, the burning of Washington by British troops was a shocking act by barbaric invaders. But the burning was payback for a similar torching by American forces the year before. After defeating British troops at York (today’s Toronto), then the capital of Upper Canada, U.S. soldiers plundered the town and burned its parliament. The British exacted revenge in Aug. 1814 when they burned the White House, Congress, and other buildings.
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Canadians wanted revenge for outrages committed by the United States armies during 1813. After the Battle of York in April, American soldiers torched the Parliament and other government buildings of Upper Canada. In December, they burned the town of Newark to the ground. Sir George Prevost, Commander-in-Chief of the British forces in Canada, petitioned the British government for help. Their response was to send an invasion force of veteran soldiers to Washington, D.C.
So, apparently Canadians did not invade Washington D.C. but the Canadian overlords (probably lizard people) did.


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Old 02-24-2013, 02:41 PM   #2
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All I know is, I dare them to try that again...
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Old 02-24-2013, 02:48 PM   #3
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All I know is, I dare them to try that again...
Well, they would probably have to use semi-automatics

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Old 02-24-2013, 03:06 PM   #4
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So, was Sleazy mistaken or just lying?
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Old 02-24-2013, 03:18 PM   #6
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So, was Sleazy mistaken or just lying?
Well, calling someone a liar is pretty harsh but the entry as it appears on wikipedia today is not what he is attributing to the wikipedia entry. So, either the wikipedia entry changed or Sleazy changed it when he quoted it. I do not know why he would do that though.

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Old 02-24-2013, 04:00 PM   #10
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And this is remotely important why?
I will admit, it is not half as important as MrMaxwell's choice of television sets but it is probably at least as important as CurrentlySobers daily poo observations.


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Old 02-24-2013, 04:03 PM   #11
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So, was Sleazy mistaken or just lying?
No it seems to be a mis-conception of many Canadians that they burnt Washington, when instead it was the Brits. For what ever reason Canadians on the internet seem to think they did it..
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Old 02-24-2013, 04:05 PM   #12
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No it seems to be a mis-conception of many Canadians that they burnt Washington, when instead it was the Brits. For what ever reason Canadians on the internet seem to think they did it..
So, someone who hates Canada must have changed the wikipedia enrty? eh?

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Old 02-24-2013, 04:09 PM   #13
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An interesting side-note:

Dolly Madison was the first First Lady (the first person to whom the appellation was used), but first for a President who was not her husband - though she would serve the position again during his Presidency as well. Thomas Jefferson, a widower, recognized the need for a lady's presence in the White House, to act as official hostess to visiting dignitaries and other such, and asked his then Secretary of State's wife to serve the position.

Anyhoo, before the White House was set ablaze, she is purported to have rescued certain items including a portrait of George Washington that greeted visitors at the entrance. Today, there are two portraits hanging there: the portrait she rescued, and a portrait of her as well.
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No it seems to be a mis-conception of many Canadians that they burnt Washington, when instead it was the Brits. For what ever reason Canadians on the internet seem to think they did it..
I'm actually more amused that the last military achievement they feel worthy of bragging about is from 200 years ago, true or not.
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Old 02-24-2013, 04:21 PM   #15
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i dont know why people try to correct anyone else on GFY. i have never seen anyone change their tune. just an exchange of ideas that quickly degenerates to name calling.

i gave sleazy a really good reason why people should possess a semi-auto. his reply was i was an idiot. what point is there dialoging with that.

Leave sleazy to believe canada beat the USA, canada is #1. whatever. nobody cares.
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Old 02-24-2013, 04:50 PM   #16
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The War of 1812 is very important to the national psyche and pride of Canada. There are buildings and institutions all over Ontario named after important figures in that war. Canadians to this day view that war as the US vs Canada with Canada putting up a valiant and victorious fight repelling an American attempt at invading and annexing Canada - it's half true at best.

It's a war that isn't held in much regard by the British nor the Americans - a minor footnote in their histories though in the US it should be more than a footnote, the Battle of New Orleans was an epic battle with Andrew Stonewall Jackson defeating the British from which Jackson became a national hero and remains one to this day and the American national anthem, The Star Spangled Banner, was inspired by the Battle of Baltimore.

Historians agree that the War of 1812 didn't have much to do with an American attempt to take over Canada. The major reason for the war was that the US was most interested in their expansion west into the Northwest Territory, which today we call 'the Midwest' - the present day states of Michigan, Illinois, Indiana, Wisconsin, Ohio - the native Indians weren't going to let that happen without a fight and the British were helping them, providing them arms. The British wanted those states to remain Indian states as a buffer between the US and its Canadian colonies. The US wanted to finally rid North America of the British - it became a second War of Independence for the Americans.

The Americans did hope that as a result of that war that Canada would join the US - that Canadian settlers would see the US as liberators from British colonial rule. From Wikipedia:

"But the Americans thought that the possibility of local support suggested an easy conquest, as former President Thomas Jefferson believed: "The acquisition of Canada this year, as far as the neighborhood of Quebec, will be a mere matter of marching, and will give us the experience for the attack on Halifax, the next and final expulsion of England from the American continent."

The Americans got what they wanted, but not Canada - had they really wanted it they could have taken it at any point down the road as it grew mightier. We've had peace and friendship and prosperity between the two countries ever since and I use that relationship to defend the United States all the time. The US has never interfered in Canadian internal politics and in any bilateral negotiations Canada has never been bullied or gotten the better of.
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Andrew Stonewall Jackson
Actually Andrew Jackson was "Old Hickory" and Stonewall Jackson was Thomas Stonewall who was a Confederate general during the Civil War.
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once again, failure of the American education system

The White house was burned in 1812
Canada became a country in 1867


if you read my signature it says "Canada, a British colony at the time,"

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