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  • RandyRandy
    Clips still sell!
    • Jul 2012
    • 1708
    #1

    Content Shooters - What do you do with "bad" content?

    I'm new at shooting content, having recently shot scenes for a new clips4sale store I'm opening. Some of the scenes went just as I wanted and others came off lame, due to my own bad direction. I'm in the middle of editing right now and wondering - what do you guys do when you look at a scene and it's not at all like you wanted? Do you throw it away? Do you put it on the shelf? Do you use it anyway? Put it up on a tube site as promotional material (though using bad work for promotion strikes me as stupid)?

    Thanks and thanks for all the great information I've found on this site in the past year leading up to my first shoot!
    Tags: clips4sale, shooting content
    • NaughtyRob
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      • Nov 2004
      • 29602
      #2
      Use it as promo and sell it as exgf/amateur content and put it on clips4sale.
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        • Red Ezra
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          • May 2004
          • 4680
          #3
          Don't use bad content please - just take it as a lesson and move forward..

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            • SGS
              Confirmed User
              • Dec 2002
              • 5176
              #4
              Originally posted by Red Ezra
              Don't use bad content please - just take it as a lesson and move forward..
              See sig...

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                • Grapesoda
                  So Fucking Banned
                  • Jul 2003
                  • 46238
                  #5
                  Originally posted by RandyRandy
                  I'm new at shooting content, having recently shot scenes for a new clips4sale store I'm opening. Some of the scenes went just as I wanted and others came off lame, due to my own bad direction. I'm in the middle of editing right now and wondering - what do you guys do when you look at a scene and it's not at all like you wanted? Do you throw it away? Do you put it on the shelf? Do you use it anyway? Put it up on a tube site as promotional material (though using bad work for promotion strikes me as stupid)?

                  Thanks and thanks for all the great information I've found on this site in the past year leading up to my first shoot!
                  edit the good stuff into a promo... you can find 1-2 min can't you? and then LEARN from your mistake....

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                    • yuu.design
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                      • Mar 2006
                      • 25924
                      #6
                      Originally posted by Red Ezra
                      Don't use bad content please - just take it as a lesson and move forward..
                      good point
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                        • RandyRandy
                          Clips still sell!
                          • Jul 2012
                          • 1708
                          #7
                          Originally posted by SGS
                          That was my first thought - just use it as a lesson to be more focused and give better direction.

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                            • NALEM
                              Confirmed User
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 3165
                              #8
                              Originally posted by RandyRandy
                              Some of the scenes went just as I wanted and others came off lame, due to my own bad direction. I'm in the middle of editing right now and wondering - what do you guys do when you look at a scene and it's not at all like you wanted? Do you throw it away? Do you put it on the shelf? Do you use it anyway? Put it up on a tube site as promotional material (though using bad work for promotion strikes me as stupid)?

                              Depends on what you consider "lame". You can pull a few frames out of each scene, and slice it together to make promo/trailers, or if some really looks amateur-ish, then that can serve a different niche in another store/site.
                              "The time men spend in trying to impress others they could spend in doing the things by which others would be impressed."

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                                • RandyRandy
                                  Clips still sell!
                                  • Jul 2012
                                  • 1708
                                  #9
                                  Originally posted by Grapesoda
                                  edit the good stuff into a promo... you can find 1-2 min can't you? and then LEARN from your mistake....
                                  There's definitely 1-2 "good" minutes in there for promo material - thanks!

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                                    • Triple-A
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                                      • Jul 2012
                                      • 535
                                      #10
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                                        • RandyRandy
                                          Clips still sell!
                                          • Jul 2012
                                          • 1708
                                          #11
                                          Originally posted by NALEM
                                          Depends on what you consider "lame". You can pull a few frames out of each scene, and slice it together to make promo/trailers, or if some really looks amateur-ish, then that can serve a different niche in another store/site.
                                          I used three Colombian strippers to shoot some bdsm scenes and in several - instead of being sadistic, they would just grind their asses into the other girls' face. I guess with no direction, they went with what they do best.

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                                            • fitzmulti
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                                              • Jan 2003
                                              • 14861
                                              #12
                                              Originally posted by RandyRandy
                                              I used three Colombian strippers to shoot some bdsm scenes and in several - instead of being sadistic, they would just grind their asses into the other girls' face. I guess with no direction, they went with what they do best.
                                              Well, at Clips$Sale, that kinda stuff is popular and fetishy...it may not be "Stripper BDSM"...but it could be at least "silver" where you wanted "gold".
                                              Stick that sh*t up there!


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                                                • Bman
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                                                  • Aug 2003
                                                  • 1679
                                                  #13
                                                  oh yeah...
                                                  lets see a clip
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                                                    • grumpy
                                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                      • Jan 2002
                                                      • 9870
                                                      #14
                                                      keep up the quality, do a new shoot. Keep your standards.
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                                                        • Jay-Rock
                                                          Confirmed User
                                                          • Mar 2007
                                                          • 2779
                                                          #15
                                                          Trash it and move on. Bad scenes reflect on your body of work and you don't want to be known for shooting bad scenes.
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                                                            • ilnjscb
                                                              Confirmed User
                                                              • Jun 2009
                                                              • 8974
                                                              #16
                                                              Yeah, for those of you that shoot high end stuff with a uniform look and have a brand - but even bad work costs $1000s and should be able to be monetized, if only to a lesser extent.

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                                                                • Major (Tom)
                                                                  So Fucking Banned
                                                                  • Nov 2003
                                                                  • 32492
                                                                  #17
                                                                  If we shoot a scene that sucks, we put it up anyway, but are open with the customers about why it sucks & what went wrong. When you have a fan base stuff like this becomes like a B side of your favorite band.
                                                                  When it sucks, own it.
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                                                                    • Major (Tom)
                                                                      So Fucking Banned
                                                                      • Nov 2003
                                                                      • 32492
                                                                      #18
                                                                      Originally posted by Jay-Rock
                                                                      Trash it and move on. Bad scenes reflect on your body of work and you don't want to be known for shooting bad scenes.
                                                                      Depends on why it's bad though. If it's out of focus, yea, it's useless, but if it's just not up to standards putt it up anyway as a bonus update & engage your customers into asking why it sucks etc. They in essence become & feel involved.
                                                                      Ds
                                                                      Last edited by Major (Tom); 02-22-2013, 09:11 AM.

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                                                                        • RandyRandy
                                                                          Clips still sell!
                                                                          • Jul 2012
                                                                          • 1708
                                                                          #19
                                                                          Originally posted by DukeSkywalker
                                                                          If we shoot a scene that sucks, we put it up anyway, but are open with the customers about why it sucks & what went wrong. When you have a fan base stuff like this becomes like a B side of your favorite band.
                                                                          When it sucks, own it.
                                                                          ds
                                                                          That's what I was thinking to do. As this is for a clips4sale store, put in the description what we were going for, what happened and what are the redeeming values. And mark down the price. This way no one who buys can say they were misled.

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                                                                            • Major (Tom)
                                                                              So Fucking Banned
                                                                              • Nov 2003
                                                                              • 32492
                                                                              #20
                                                                              Originally posted by RandyRandy
                                                                              That's what I was thinking to do. As this is for a clips4sale store, put in the description what we were going for, what happened and what are the redeeming values. And mark down the price. This way no one who buys can say they were misled.
                                                                              Yea, exactly. & poke fun at yourself too. Give it away very very cheap though. For me, I'd put it in my sites along with the scheduled update so they are just getting extra although the extra sucks. Different model though with cfs. Keep it cheap.
                                                                              Best
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                                                                                • 2013
                                                                                  So Fucking Banned
                                                                                  • Dec 2012
                                                                                  • 4390
                                                                                  #21
                                                                                  Originally posted by NALEM
                                                                                  Depends on what you consider "lame". You can pull a few frames out of each scene, and slice it together to make promo/trailers, or if some really looks amateur-ish, then that can serve a different niche in another store/site.
                                                                                  all of your photos are considered lame

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                                                                                    • RandyRandy
                                                                                      Clips still sell!
                                                                                      • Jul 2012
                                                                                      • 1708
                                                                                      #22
                                                                                      Nothing is out of focus, it just the intent of some of the scenes didn't get realized. There's a Strappado scene where they just didn't crank the girl high enough and they just kept playing with her, but in a friendly way, not in a tormenting way - that was the problem in a couple of scenes. That instead of being tormented, the victim was being played with in a sensual way. Sensual is fine, but that's not the theme of the store.

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                                                                                        • NaughtyVisions
                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                          • May 2008
                                                                                          • 4204
                                                                                          #23
                                                                                          Originally posted by 2013
                                                                                          all of your photos are considered lame


                                                                                          I was going to reply to Nalem's post and say, "or you could put it all up on a domain and charge the performers for you to remove the shitty depictions of them."
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                                                                                            • Major (Tom)
                                                                                              So Fucking Banned
                                                                                              • Nov 2003
                                                                                              • 32492
                                                                                              #24
                                                                                              Originally posted by RandyRandy
                                                                                              Nothing is out of focus, it just the intent of some of the scenes didn't get realized. There's a Strappado scene where they just didn't crank the girl high enough and they just kept playing with her, but in a friendly way, not in a tormenting way - that was the problem in a couple of scenes. That instead of being tormented, the victim was being played with in a sensual way. Sensual is fine, but that's not the theme of the store.
                                                                                              In the early days when the guys weren't performing to the level I wanted, I'd carry a bamboo back scratcher in my back pocket & would crack their asses. Works well.
                                                                                              Ds

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                                                                                                • Bman
                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                  • Aug 2003
                                                                                                  • 1679
                                                                                                  #25
                                                                                                  There is one thing I have learned being 10 years in this biz.
                                                                                                  DOesnt matter how bad you think it is, how horrible it actually is, what the opinions of all the people are, whether or not you hate it....there is always somebody who will buy it.

                                                                                                  People buy porn for the models. Not the technical or proficiency standards one believes their content should have.
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                                                                                                    • NaughtyRob
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                                                                                                      • Nov 2004
                                                                                                      • 29602
                                                                                                      #26
                                                                                                      You got that right Bman.
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                                                                                                        • JustDaveXxx
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                                                                                                          • Feb 2005
                                                                                                          • 4111
                                                                                                          #27
                                                                                                          Originally posted by Jay-Rock
                                                                                                          Trash it and move on. Bad scenes reflect on your body of work and you don't want to be known for shooting bad scenes.
                                                                                                          I agree.


                                                                                                          Bad Scenes=Bad Rep


                                                                                                          But if the director is on point and knows what he is doing, he can always get a Usable/Good scene out of lousy performers. (Years of editing my scenes that I shot taught me that)



                                                                                                          But for some reason if the scene is starting to look bad before you get to the meat and potatoes of the scene, "KILL IT" and start again with performers that want to be there.



                                                                                                          Been there, done all of the above. It always sucks that day, and it can be expensive, but nothing is worse than clients and prospective clients thinking that you are not a competent producer.


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