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  • Vendzilla
    Biker Gnome
    • Mar 2004
    • 23200
    #1

    Liberals are going crazy on gun control

    Never mind Obama gave guns to Mexico's drug cartel that they want to take away from Legal Gun Owners in the US, check this shit out!!!

    Mexico to ask US for list of gun owners

    http://communities.washingtontimes.c...istry-us-guns/


    Washington state wants to ban sales assault weapons.

    To show how little people that are against guns know about them, it's a Magazine, not a clip page 3, line 9

    They are pretty broad about what an assault weapon is, even a 9mm pistol with a 15 round clip is an assault weapon?

    http://apps.leg.wa.gov/documents/bil...Bills/5737.pdf

    then finally there is this idiot that thinks we should wait till they go to reload and then attack the shooters with ballpoint pens?






    keep our guns to protect us from these idiots
    Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
    think about that
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    • _Richard_
      Too lazy to set a custom title
      • Oct 2006
      • 30991
      #2
      if the entire country sells weapons to the planet.. why in the world are you talking about gun regulation?

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        • Verbal
          Confirmed User
          • Dec 2001
          • 3420
          #3
          Shouldn't you be jerking off to Fox News about now?

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            • BigChad
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              • Nov 2012
              • 502
              #4
              Originally posted by _Richard_
              if the entire country sells weapons to the planet.. why in the world are you talking about gun regulation?
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                • stinkyfingers
                  Confirmed User
                  • Sep 2007
                  • 657
                  #5
                  seems perfectly normal
                  how can i help you today ?

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                    • Grapesoda
                      So Fucking Banned
                      • Jul 2003
                      • 46238
                      #6
                      Originally posted by Vendzilla

                      Mexico to ask US for list of gun owners
                      let's trade him for a list of 'coyotes and border crossings' or maybe about 12 billion dollars for supporting his citizens...

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                        • Lester Burnham
                          Confirmed User
                          • Aug 2006
                          • 540
                          #7
                          I'm a Dem.

                          I voted for Obama.

                          I have a small arsenal at home (e.g., an FN SCAR-L, FN 5.7, Walther PPS, Ed Brown Kobra Carry 1911...you get the picture). I can't let all the right wingers have all the fun.

                          I'm not a "one issue" voter like many people. At the end of the day, the Dems don't have enough clout in the legislature or in the federal courts to do a whole lot IMHO. An AWB will likely get filibustered. The real issue is the state legislatures, but then the Supreme Court will eventually get involved, and it still leans right.

                          The bigger concern is, frankly, the private sector. Price gouging is completely insane. You can't find ammo anywhere, and when you do find it, it is priced at obscene levels. I stopped by Walmart a few days ago and they didn't have any .223, .308, .45 or 9mm ammo. It is just crazy. I bought my SCAR for $2,200 a few years ago. You can't find it for less than $5K now. Stores are selling crappy AR-15s for $2K+. People are panicking.

                          But the paranoia has its benefits. I bought Ruger after Obama was elected. Up 10% and they issued a HUGE dividend (9% or so).
                          Last edited by Lester Burnham; 02-19-2013, 03:38 PM.

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                            • stinkyfingers
                              Confirmed User
                              • Sep 2007
                              • 657
                              #8
                              how can i help you today ?

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                                • Vendzilla
                                  Biker Gnome
                                  • Mar 2004
                                  • 23200
                                  #9
                                  Originally posted by _Richard_
                                  if the entire country sells weapons to the planet.. why in the world are you talking about gun regulation?
                                  Canada makes guns, you know that don't you?


                                  Colt Canada http://www.coltcanada.com/products.htm

                                  Diemaco, Para-Ordnance, Savage Arms, Tobin Arms
                                  Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
                                  think about that

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                                    • slapass
                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                      • Nov 2002
                                      • 14625
                                      #10
                                      The gun walking thing is 2006-2011 and never went as high as Bush or Obama.

                                      "In January, the Mexico Permanent Commission reportedly voted to formally ask the United States Senate for a registry of all commercialized firearms in the border states of California, Arizona, New Mexico and Texas." From the opinion section so who knows if their "reportedly" holds water.

                                      Gotta love slanted and fake news.

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                                        • SuckOnThis
                                          So Fucking Banned
                                          • Oct 2003
                                          • 6844
                                          #11
                                          Originally posted by Vendzilla
                                          Canada makes guns, you know that don't you?


                                          Colt Canada http://www.coltcanada.com/products.htm

                                          Diemaco, Para-Ordnance, Savage Arms, Tobin Arms


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                                            • stinkyfingers
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • Sep 2007
                                              • 657
                                              #12
                                              nothing to see here. everything seems to be in perfect order. they should let mexican officials come over here and conduct random terror checks on our wives panties
                                              how can i help you today ?

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                                                • Vendzilla
                                                  Biker Gnome
                                                  • Mar 2004
                                                  • 23200
                                                  #13
                                                  Originally posted by slapass
                                                  The gun walking thing is 2006-2011 and never went as high as Bush or Obama.

                                                  "In January, the Mexico Permanent Commission reportedly voted to formally ask the United States Senate for a registry of all commercialized firearms in the border states of California, Arizona, New Mexico and Texas." From the opinion section so who knows if their "reportedly" holds water.

                                                  Gotta love slanted and fake news.
                                                  http://www.informador.com.mx/mexico/...-balistico.htm
                                                  Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
                                                  think about that

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                                                    • _Richard_
                                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                      • Oct 2006
                                                      • 30991
                                                      #14
                                                      Originally posted by Vendzilla
                                                      Canada makes guns, you know that don't you?


                                                      Colt Canada http://www.coltcanada.com/products.htm

                                                      Diemaco, Para-Ordnance, Savage Arms, Tobin Arms
                                                      Samuel Colt (July 19, 1814 ? January 10, 1862) was an American inventor and industrialist from Hartford, Connecticut

                                                      furthermore, i was using 'you' as 'your country'.. my bad on that

                                                      thirdly, what in the world are you talking about

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                                                        • Vendzilla
                                                          Biker Gnome
                                                          • Mar 2004
                                                          • 23200
                                                          #15
                                                          Originally posted by _Richard_
                                                          Samuel Colt (July 19, 1814 ? January 10, 1862) was an American inventor and industrialist from Hartford, Connecticut

                                                          furthermore, i was using 'you' as 'your country'.. my bad on that

                                                          thirdly, what in the world are you talking about
                                                          You commented like we were the only country making guns, Canada makes plenty.

                                                          Samuel Colt was an american, but it's making guns in Canada too!
                                                          Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
                                                          think about that

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                                                            • MK Ultra
                                                              Confirmed User
                                                              • Jun 2007
                                                              • 879
                                                              #16
                                                              Originally posted by Joe Obenberger
                                                              I really think that the framers of the Bill of Rights were among the most brilliant statesmen that any nation has been fortunate to possess, that they knew history well, but they knew human nature even better. Far better than anyone in our national government in many decades. That's why I think we all should be quite afraid to fuck with any part of the Bill of Rights. They all fit together intricately to frame a government fit for free people, a government under the control of the people. The main purpose of the Second Amendment is not self defense. It's not about hunting or target shooting. It's mainly about keeping the government on its toes, keeping the government just a wee bit apprehensive about imposing too much tyranny on its citizens.
                                                              This is why those in government who want to expand their control over the citizenry continue to try to restrict our Rights guaranteed by the Second Amendment, and it's the reason why we should continue to defend it.

                                                              It's sad that so few see that and seem to be in a great hurry to give up more and more their Freedoms
                                                              Last edited by MK Ultra; 02-19-2013, 04:28 PM.

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                                                                • DTK
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                                                                  • Feb 2002
                                                                  • 4546
                                                                  #17
                                                                  Current polling data of NRA members in terms of some the gun control initiatives being proposed. Long and short, even rank and file NRA members strongly support basic gun control like background checks. And last I checked, the NRA wasn't exactly a hotbed of liberalism
                                                                  • 1. Requiring criminal background checks on gun owners and gun shop employees. 82 percent of all gun owners and 74 percent of NRA gun owners support the former, and 80 percent and 79 percent, respectively, endorse the latter.
                                                                  • 2. Prohibiting terrorist watch list members from acquiring guns. Support ranges from 80 percent among non-NRA gun-owners to 71 percent among NRA members.
                                                                  • 3. Mandating that gun-owners tell the police when their gun is stolen. 71 percent non-NRA gun-owners support this measure, as do 64 percent of NRA members.
                                                                  • 4. Concealed carry permits should only be restricted to individuals who have completed a safety training course and are 21 and older. 84 percent of non-NRA and 74 percent of NRA member gun-owners support the safety training restriction, and the numbers are 74 percent and 63 percent for the age restriction.
                                                                  • 5.Concealed carry permits shouldn?t be given to perpetrators of violent misdemeanors or individuals arrested for domestic violence. The NRA/non-NRA gun-owner split on these issues is 81 percent and 75 percent in favor of the violent misdemeanors provision and 78 percent/68 percent in favor of the domestic violence restriction.

                                                                  The poll, which sampled 945 gun owners around the country and had a margin of error of +/- 3, also found broad support gun-owners for the principle that ?support for 2nd Amendment rights goes hand-in-hand with keeping illegal guns out of the hands of criminals.? In fact, more NRA members (87 percent) supported the statement than non-NRA members (83 percent).


                                                                  imo, NRA leadership doesn't care because they're in the bag for the gun manufacturers. Gotta keep sellin' guns, gotta keep gettin' paid.
                                                                  Arguing whether the Democratic or Republican party is better is like debating which steaming pile of shit is slightly less stinky.

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                                                                    • _Richard_
                                                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                      • Oct 2006
                                                                      • 30991
                                                                      #18
                                                                      Originally posted by MK Ultra
                                                                      This is why those in government who want to expand their control over the citizenry continue to try to restrict our Rights guaranteed by the Second Amendment, and it's the reason why we should continue to defend it.

                                                                      It's sad that so few see that and seem to be in a great hurry to give up more and more their Freedoms
                                                                      where did you get this quote from? .net?

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                                                                        • crockett
                                                                          in a van by the river
                                                                          • May 2003
                                                                          • 76818
                                                                          #19
                                                                          Originally posted by Lester Burnham
                                                                          I'm a Dem.

                                                                          I voted for Obama.

                                                                          I have a small arsenal at home (e.g., an FN SCAR-L, FN 5.7, Walther PPS, Ed Brown Kobra Carry 1911...you get the picture). I can't let all the right wingers have all the fun.

                                                                          I'm not a "one issue" voter like many people. At the end of the day, the Dems don't have enough clout in the legislature or in the federal courts to do a whole lot IMHO. An AWB will likely get filibustered. The real issue is the state legislatures, but then the Supreme Court will eventually get involved, and it still leans right.

                                                                          The bigger concern is, frankly, the private sector. Price gouging is completely insane. You can't find ammo anywhere, and when you do find it, it is priced at obscene levels. I stopped by Walmart a few days ago and they didn't have any .223, .308, .45 or 9mm ammo. It is just crazy. I bought my SCAR for $2,200 a few years ago. You can't find it for less than $5K now. Stores are selling crappy AR-15s for $2K+. People are panicking.

                                                                          But the paranoia has its benefits. I bought Ruger after Obama was elected. Up 10% and they issued a HUGE dividend (9% or so).

                                                                          This is pretty much the way I see it. The fed govt won't be able to ban guns as it will never make it through congress or the senate. It's the states that will do anything as far as banning goes, but most of that will get over turned as unconstitutional.

                                                                          It's just like when the Right tries to push religion in schools or anti gay policies. It always gets over turned.

                                                                          Meanwhile you have right wing retards running around with their hair on fire trying to buy everything that isn't bolted down at the gun shows & stores. These morons have likely maxed out their credit cards buying everything they can get their hands on.

                                                                          All I'd like to see is better background checks and perhaps requiring a license to buy assault rifles. Essentially making it tougher for criminals to just walk into a store and buy a gun and giving them much stronger prison sentences if a gun is used in a crime.
                                                                          Last edited by crockett; 02-19-2013, 05:14 PM.
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                                                                            • MK Ultra
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                                                                              • Jun 2007
                                                                              • 879
                                                                              #20
                                                                              Originally posted by _Richard_
                                                                              where did you get this quote from? .net?
                                                                              http://gfy.com/showthread.php?p=19460898#post19460898

                                                                              http://gfy.com/showpost.php?p=19460898&postcount=344

                                                                              the rest was my

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                                                                                • Vendzilla
                                                                                  Biker Gnome
                                                                                  • Mar 2004
                                                                                  • 23200
                                                                                  #21
                                                                                  Originally posted by DTK
                                                                                  Current polling data of NRA members in terms of some the gun control initiatives being proposed. .
                                                                                  You think NRA members think we should wait to defend ourselves with ink pens?

                                                                                  You think an assault weapon is any gun with magazine over 10 rounds?

                                                                                  You think Mexico should get a list of gun owners in the US? Hell, Obama let him speak to congress and put down the US. Fuck Mexico

                                                                                  California already makes you take a class to get a carry permit.
                                                                                  California already has a background check.
                                                                                  California already makes you take a safety course unless you have a DD214 to buy a gun
                                                                                  Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
                                                                                  think about that

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                                                                                    • Heath
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                                                                                      • Sep 2008
                                                                                      • 491
                                                                                      #22
                                                                                      Fact. Liberals go crazy on every issue, until a liberal can be held responsible for it...
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                                                                                        • slapass
                                                                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                          • Nov 2002
                                                                                          • 14625
                                                                                          #23
                                                                                          Originally posted by Vendzilla
                                                                                          http://www.informador.com.mx/mexico/...-balistico.htm
                                                                                          This sounds like a decent plan. I had to use a translator but I wouldn't against this. They want to have access to who the gun was sold to if it is used in a crime in Mexico.

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                                                                                            • Dirty F
                                                                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                              • Jul 2001
                                                                                              • 59204
                                                                                              #24
                                                                                              Originally posted by Verbal
                                                                                              Shouldn't you be jerking off to Fox News about now?
                                                                                              Fox news is too difficult for him.

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                                                                                                • AdultPornMasta
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                                                                                                  • May 2012
                                                                                                  • 1506
                                                                                                  #25
                                                                                                  Originally posted by Populace
                                                                                                  Fact. Liberals go crazy on every issue, until a liberal can be held responsible for it...
                                                                                                  "Liberals" don't "go" crazy......................they are crazy to begin with!

                                                                                                  "The world is full of obvious things which nobody by any chance ever observes."

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                                                                                                    • Markul
                                                                                                      Likes Pie
                                                                                                      • Dec 2007
                                                                                                      • 12403
                                                                                                      #26
                                                                                                      You just need this guy to take care of the evil liberals
                                                                                                      But.... I pulled out...

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                                                                                                        • beerptrol
                                                                                                          Confirmed Asshole
                                                                                                          • Feb 2003
                                                                                                          • 12722
                                                                                                          #27
                                                                                                          Shouldn't you be in a submarine with your vatos locos taking their chorizo in your culo while singing taco flavored kisses
                                                                                                          “If we are to have another contest in the near future of our national existence, I predict that the dividing line will not be Mason and Dixon's but between patriotism and intelligence on the one side, and superstition, ambition and ignorance on the other.”
                                                                                                          -- Ulysses S. Grant

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                                                                                                            • Vendzilla
                                                                                                              Biker Gnome
                                                                                                              • Mar 2004
                                                                                                              • 23200
                                                                                                              #28
                                                                                                              Originally posted by slapass
                                                                                                              This sounds like a decent plan. I had to use a translator but I wouldn't against this. They want to have access to who the gun was sold to if it is used in a crime in Mexico.
                                                                                                              They want a list of American Citizens, if the US gave my name to them on that list, I would be part of the long list of people suing the government.

                                                                                                              Originally posted by Dirty F
                                                                                                              Fox news is too difficult for him.
                                                                                                              I rarely watch the news on TV these days, Obama is going to spend more money on head start so hopefully your ignorance won't be repeated in the future.
                                                                                                              Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
                                                                                                              think about that

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                                                                                                                • Vendzilla
                                                                                                                  Biker Gnome
                                                                                                                  • Mar 2004
                                                                                                                  • 23200
                                                                                                                  #29
                                                                                                                  Originally posted by beerptrol
                                                                                                                  Shouldn't you be in a submarine with your vatos locos taking their chorizo in your culo while singing taco flavored kisses
                                                                                                                  Are you airing your fantasies?
                                                                                                                  Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
                                                                                                                  think about that

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                                                                                                                    • Vendzilla
                                                                                                                      Biker Gnome
                                                                                                                      • Mar 2004
                                                                                                                      • 23200
                                                                                                                      #30
                                                                                                                      Originally posted by Markul
                                                                                                                      You just need this guy to take care of the evil liberals
                                                                                                                      They're not evil, just idiots
                                                                                                                      Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
                                                                                                                      think about that

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                                                                                                                        • just a punk
                                                                                                                          So fuckin' bored
                                                                                                                          • Jun 2003
                                                                                                                          • 32393
                                                                                                                          #31
                                                                                                                          Gun nutters are liberals by default.
                                                                                                                          Obey the Cowgod

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                                                                                                                            • Matyko
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                                                                                                                              • Aug 2005
                                                                                                                              • 8681
                                                                                                                              #32
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                                                                                                                                • CDSmith
                                                                                                                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                  • May 2001
                                                                                                                                  • 51460
                                                                                                                                  #33
                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by DTK
                                                                                                                                  Current polling data of NRA members in terms of some the gun control initiatives being proposed. Long and short, even rank and file NRA members strongly support basic gun control like background checks. And last I checked, the NRA wasn't exactly a hotbed of liberalism
                                                                                                                                  • 1. Requiring criminal background checks on gun owners and gun shop employees. 82 percent of all gun owners and 74 percent of NRA gun owners support the former, and 80 percent and 79 percent, respectively, endorse the latter.
                                                                                                                                  • 2. Prohibiting terrorist watch list members from acquiring guns. Support ranges from 80 percent among non-NRA gun-owners to 71 percent among NRA members.
                                                                                                                                  • 3. Mandating that gun-owners tell the police when their gun is stolen. 71 percent non-NRA gun-owners support this measure, as do 64 percent of NRA members.
                                                                                                                                  • 4. Concealed carry permits should only be restricted to individuals who have completed a safety training course and are 21 and older. 84 percent of non-NRA and 74 percent of NRA member gun-owners support the safety training restriction, and the numbers are 74 percent and 63 percent for the age restriction.
                                                                                                                                  • 5.Concealed carry permits shouldn?t be given to perpetrators of violent misdemeanors or individuals arrested for domestic violence. The NRA/non-NRA gun-owner split on these issues is 81 percent and 75 percent in favor of the violent misdemeanors provision and 78 percent/68 percent in favor of the domestic violence restriction.

                                                                                                                                  The poll, which sampled 945 gun owners around the country and had a margin of error of +/- 3, also found broad support gun-owners for the principle that ?support for 2nd Amendment rights goes hand-in-hand with keeping illegal guns out of the hands of criminals.? In fact, more NRA members (87 percent) supported the statement than non-NRA members (83 percent).


                                                                                                                                  imo, NRA leadership doesn't care because they're in the bag for the gun manufacturers. Gotta keep sellin' guns, gotta keep gettin' paid.
                                                                                                                                  Those are the kinds of gun regulations I've been saying are needed for years now.
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                                                                                                                                    • stinkyfingers
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                                                                                                                                      • Sep 2007
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                                                                                                                                      #34












                                                                                                                                      how can i help you today ?

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                                                                                                                                        • slapass
                                                                                                                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                          • Nov 2002
                                                                                                                                          • 14625
                                                                                                                                          #35
                                                                                                                                          Obama laid out his plan on guns.

                                                                                                                                          http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-0...very-plan.html

                                                                                                                                          “This is not just a gun issue,” Obama said on Feb. 15, when he returned to Chicago to promote his agenda. “It’s also an issue of the kinds of communities that we’re building.”

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                                                                                                                                            • DTK
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                                                                                                                                              • Feb 2002
                                                                                                                                              • 4546
                                                                                                                                              #36
                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by Vendzilla
                                                                                                                                              You think NRA members think we should wait to defend ourselves with ink pens?
                                                                                                                                              Did I say this? No.
                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by Vendzilla
                                                                                                                                              You think an assault weapon is any gun with magazine over 10 rounds?
                                                                                                                                              Did I say this? No.
                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by Vendzilla
                                                                                                                                              You think Mexico should get a list of gun owners in the US?
                                                                                                                                              Did I say this? No.

                                                                                                                                              I was posting poll results. The only opinion i expressed is that NRA leadership is in the bag for their paymasters, the gun manufacturers.
                                                                                                                                              Arguing whether the Democratic or Republican party is better is like debating which steaming pile of shit is slightly less stinky.

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                                                                                                                                                • slapass
                                                                                                                                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                                  • Nov 2002
                                                                                                                                                  • 14625
                                                                                                                                                  #37
                                                                                                                                                  Did I read the Mexico thing wrong? "They want to know who bought the gun when it is used in a crime." Or that is how I understood it.

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                                                                                                                                                    • DTK
                                                                                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                      • Feb 2002
                                                                                                                                                      • 4546
                                                                                                                                                      #38
                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by CDSmith
                                                                                                                                                      Those are the kinds of gun regulations I've been saying are needed for years now.
                                                                                                                                                      But it's gun-grabbing! Don't you know? Count Chocula is coming for all our guns! Head NRA sock-puppet Wayne LaPierre says (or strongly implies) that's the case, so it must be true. or something....
                                                                                                                                                      Arguing whether the Democratic or Republican party is better is like debating which steaming pile of shit is slightly less stinky.

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                                                                                                                                                        • Vendzilla
                                                                                                                                                          Biker Gnome
                                                                                                                                                          • Mar 2004
                                                                                                                                                          • 23200
                                                                                                                                                          #39
                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by DTK
                                                                                                                                                          Did I say this? No.

                                                                                                                                                          Did I say this? No.

                                                                                                                                                          Did I say this? No.

                                                                                                                                                          I was posting poll results. The only opinion i expressed is that NRA leadership is in the bag for their paymasters, the gun manufacturers.
                                                                                                                                                          What poll results were you posting, was it polled by the NRA or was it polled by those being polled that said they were NRA?

                                                                                                                                                          Keep to the OP, everything you posted is already in place, but you already knew that, correct?
                                                                                                                                                          Last edited by Vendzilla; 02-20-2013, 10:52 AM.
                                                                                                                                                          Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
                                                                                                                                                          think about that

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                                                                                                                                                            • Vendzilla
                                                                                                                                                              Biker Gnome
                                                                                                                                                              • Mar 2004
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                                                                                                                                                              #40
                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by slapass
                                                                                                                                                              Did I read the Mexico thing wrong? "They want to know who bought the gun when it is used in a crime." Or that is how I understood it.
                                                                                                                                                              they want a database of all legal gun owners in states along their borders
                                                                                                                                                              Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
                                                                                                                                                              think about that

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                                                                                                                                                                • slapass
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                                                                                                                                                                  • Nov 2002
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                                                                                                                                                                  #41
                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by Vendzilla
                                                                                                                                                                  they want a database of all legal gun owners in states along their borders
                                                                                                                                                                  This is a translation of what they want - "PRI Senator Marcela Guerra presented the proposal, which aims at the time that these weapons are used in a violent act, you can know precisely the name of the person who originally purchased the armory."

                                                                                                                                                                  It seems if a firearm was legally bought in the US and used in a crime in Mexico that we could help trace the ownership of that gun. Fuck, I thought we did that now. Why wouldn't we do this?

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                                                                                                                                                                    • brassmonkey
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                                                                                                                                                                      #42
                                                                                                                                                                      this is a money maker if passed
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                                                                                                                                                                        • Joe Obenberger
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                                                                                                                                                                          • May 2003
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                                                                                                                                                                          #43
                                                                                                                                                                          Yeah, well, the history of Mexico rarely shows any indication of much respect for individual rights.

                                                                                                                                                                          Generations of immigrants coming into New York harbor were greeted with a beacon here that personified the spirit of Liberty - and that tells the tale.

                                                                                                                                                                          We don't maintain any federal registry of gun owners at large. When plans for that emerge, it will seriously undercut the principle behind the Second Amendment - that a well-armed body of citizens keeps the government on its toes and acts to prevent tyanny.

                                                                                                                                                                          Delighted to report that last weekend, another lawyer and I held a meeting to establish The Second Amendment Lawyer's Association. We hope to work aggressively to defend gun rights.


                                                                                                                                                                          Extremism in the defense of Liberty is no vice. . . Restraint in the pursuit of Justice is no virtue.
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                                                                                                                                                                            • Rochard
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                                                                                                                                                                              • Dec 2001
                                                                                                                                                                              • 75733
                                                                                                                                                                              #44
                                                                                                                                                                              Let's do this!

                                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by Vendzilla
                                                                                                                                                                              Never mind Obama gave guns to Mexico's drug cartel that they want to take away from Legal Gun Owners in the US, check this shit out!!!
                                                                                                                                                                              Amazing how you turn everything into Obama's fault.

                                                                                                                                                                              The Republican party lost. Badly. Twice. To a black man. That pretty shows you exactly how bad the Republican party has become.

                                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by Vendzilla

                                                                                                                                                                              Washington state wants to ban sales assault weapons.
                                                                                                                                                                              And? Wouldn't be the first time.

                                                                                                                                                                              I have three assault rifles here in my house. WTF? The same exact weapon I trained with for four years in the US Marines. This cracks me the fuck up. Anyone can own an assault rifle. That's funny already.


                                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by Vendzilla
                                                                                                                                                                              To show how little people that are against guns know about them, it's a Magazine, not a clip page 3, line 9
                                                                                                                                                                              I grew up calling it a clip. Now that I think about it, even in the Marines we called it a clip.

                                                                                                                                                                              Wikipedia says: The detachable magazine is often controversially referred to as a clip or mag.

                                                                                                                                                                              You call it tomato, I call it tamoto.

                                                                                                                                                                              Your point?

                                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by Vendzilla
                                                                                                                                                                              They are pretty broad about what an assault weapon is, even a 9mm pistol with a 15 round clip is an assault weapon?
                                                                                                                                                                              I'm sorry, when you say clip, you mean magazine, RIGHT?

                                                                                                                                                                              No one said a 9mm pistol is an assault rifle. The article seems to be about assault rifles, handguns, antique rifles.... However, a 9mm pistol with 15 round clip is a bit of over kill for self defense, isn't it? At a certain point you can argue that a firearm is no longer about self defense, and is more of an assault weapon.

                                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by Vendzilla

                                                                                                                                                                              keep our guns to protect us from these idiots
                                                                                                                                                                              People scare the fuck out of me. The main road outside of my house is shut down for repairs, and while out on my run this morning I saw a thirty year old man who not only blew right through the stop sign, but slide right into a temporary barrier.

                                                                                                                                                                              You want to be saved by "these idiots" and then.... Turn around and arm the idiots who can't see the road closed signs, the stop sign, OR FORTY FEET OF WHITE AND ORANGE BARRIERS?
                                                                                                                                                                              Herschel Savage
                                                                                                                                                                              Brooklyn, NY

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                                                                                                                                                                                • Rochard
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                                                                                                                                                                                  • Dec 2001
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                                                                                                                                                                                  #45
                                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by Lester Burnham
                                                                                                                                                                                  But the paranoia has its benefits. I bought Ruger after Obama was elected. Up 10% and they issued a HUGE dividend (9% or so).
                                                                                                                                                                                  Seems like the NRA has done it's job and earned it's pay. Firearms are flying off the shelves, every other retard is now armed, and none of us can buy ammo.

                                                                                                                                                                                  Win win for everyone.
                                                                                                                                                                                  Herschel Savage
                                                                                                                                                                                  Brooklyn, NY

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                                                                                                                                                                                    • Rochard
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                                                                                                                                                                                      • Dec 2001
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                                                                                                                                                                                      #46
                                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by Matyko
                                                                                                                                                                                      Holy shit that turns me on.
                                                                                                                                                                                      Herschel Savage
                                                                                                                                                                                      Brooklyn, NY

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                                                                                                                                                                                        • Rochard
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                                                                                                                                                                                          • Dec 2001
                                                                                                                                                                                          • 75733
                                                                                                                                                                                          #47
                                                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by DTK
                                                                                                                                                                                          Current polling data of NRA members in terms of some the gun control initiatives being proposed. Long and short, even rank and file NRA members strongly support basic gun control like background checks. And last I checked, the NRA wasn't exactly a hotbed of liberalism
                                                                                                                                                                                          • 1. Requiring criminal background checks on gun owners and gun shop employees. 82 percent of all gun owners and 74 percent of NRA gun owners support the former, and 80 percent and 79 percent, respectively, endorse the latter.
                                                                                                                                                                                          • 2. Prohibiting terrorist watch list members from acquiring guns. Support ranges from 80 percent among non-NRA gun-owners to 71 percent among NRA members.
                                                                                                                                                                                          • 3. Mandating that gun-owners tell the police when their gun is stolen. 71 percent non-NRA gun-owners support this measure, as do 64 percent of NRA members.
                                                                                                                                                                                          • 4. Concealed carry permits should only be restricted to individuals who have completed a safety training course and are 21 and older. 84 percent of non-NRA and 74 percent of NRA member gun-owners support the safety training restriction, and the numbers are 74 percent and 63 percent for the age restriction.
                                                                                                                                                                                          • 5.Concealed carry permits shouldn?t be given to perpetrators of violent misdemeanors or individuals arrested for domestic violence. The NRA/non-NRA gun-owner split on these issues is 81 percent and 75 percent in favor of the violent misdemeanors provision and 78 percent/68 percent in favor of the domestic violence restriction.

                                                                                                                                                                                          The poll, which sampled 945 gun owners around the country and had a margin of error of +/- 3, also found broad support gun-owners for the principle that ?support for 2nd Amendment rights goes hand-in-hand with keeping illegal guns out of the hands of criminals.? In fact, more NRA members (87 percent) supported the statement than non-NRA members (83 percent).


                                                                                                                                                                                          imo, NRA leadership doesn't care because they're in the bag for the gun manufacturers. Gotta keep sellin' guns, gotta keep gettin' paid.
                                                                                                                                                                                          Background checks need to further. Seems to me right now all they are doing is checking for criminal background. We need mental health checks.

                                                                                                                                                                                          You also said....

                                                                                                                                                                                          Concealed carry permits shouldn?t be given to perpetrators of violent misdemeanors or individuals arrested for domestic violence.
                                                                                                                                                                                          Um, these people shouldn't have firearms at all. Period.
                                                                                                                                                                                          Herschel Savage
                                                                                                                                                                                          Brooklyn, NY

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                                                                                                                                                                                            • ajrocks
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                                                                                                                                                                                              • Nov 2004
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                                                                                                                                                                                              #48
                                                                                                                                                                                              You guys don't even know the meaning of Liberal. Check out our Canadian government, there is a guy on trial right now that was having his store robbed. He defending himself and store with a stick dipped in some Indian spices. He's been charge for using a dangerous weapon similar to mace....
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                                                                                                                                                                                                • Vendzilla
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                                                                                                                                                                                                  • Mar 2004
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                                                                                                                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by Rochard
                                                                                                                                                                                                  Let's do this!



                                                                                                                                                                                                  Amazing how you turn everything into Obama's fault.
                                                                                                                                                                                                  Not everything
                                                                                                                                                                                                  The Republican party lost. Badly. Twice. To a black man. That pretty shows you exactly how bad the Republican party has become.
                                                                                                                                                                                                  Race card, seriously?

                                                                                                                                                                                                  And? Wouldn't be the first time.

                                                                                                                                                                                                  I have three assault rifles here in my house. WTF? The same exact weapon I trained with for four years in the US Marines. This cracks me the fuck up. Anyone can own an assault rifle. That's funny already.




                                                                                                                                                                                                  I grew up calling it a clip. Now that I think about it, even in the Marines we called it a clip.

                                                                                                                                                                                                  Wikipedia says: The detachable magazine is often controversially referred to as a clip or mag.

                                                                                                                                                                                                  You call it tomato, I call it tamoto.

                                                                                                                                                                                                  Your point?



                                                                                                                                                                                                  I'm sorry, when you say clip, you mean magazine, RIGHT?

                                                                                                                                                                                                  No one said a 9mm pistol is an assault rifle. The article seems to be about assault rifles, handguns, antique rifles.... However, a 9mm pistol with 15 round clip is a bit of over kill for self defense, isn't it? At a certain point you can argue that a firearm is no longer about self defense, and is more of an assault weapon.



                                                                                                                                                                                                  People scare the fuck out of me. The main road outside of my house is shut down for repairs, and while out on my run this morning I saw a thirty year old man who not only blew right through the stop sign, but slide right into a temporary barrier.

                                                                                                                                                                                                  You want to be saved by "these idiots" and then.... Turn around and arm the idiots who can't see the road closed signs, the stop sign, OR FORTY FEET OF WHITE AND ORANGE BARRIERS?
                                                                                                                                                                                                  These idiots want people to attack people with guns using ink pens, what do you call them?

                                                                                                                                                                                                  You've never dealt with the law much, by calling it two different things in the bill, makes it's a problem, they have to be referred to as the same thing
                                                                                                                                                                                                  Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
                                                                                                                                                                                                  think about that

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                                                                                                                                                                                                    • stinkyfingers
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                                                                                                                                                                                                      • Sep 2007
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                                                                                                                                                                                                      #50
                                                                                                                                                                                                      how can i help you today ?

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