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If this is legit ... just WOW!!!

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bronco67

Can't really say there's anything wrong with it, if they did set fire to the place. The guy had already killed 4 people, terrorized an entire city(a very large one) and was running amok in Big Bear -- time to end it by any means necessary. Fuck that guy I'm glad they got him.

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yes it makes complete sense that cops and the media get to be judge, jury and executioner.

are you a fucking idiot?

some of you people are brain fucking damaged.

Jim_Gunn

Those cops had no intention of taking him alive. I totally believe they torched the cabin. Law enforcement is completely out of control in this country- murdering people, killing pets and framing people for crimes as simple as "contempt of cop".

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Yep this:
http://www.reddit.com/r/news/comment...aying_burn_it/
this:
http://www.reddit.com/r/DornerCase/c...i_feb_12_2013/
and finally this:
http://www.reddit.com/tb/18h6jr

Can you blame the cops, though? They didn't want to see him possibly released from jail on a technicality or to get away again. It was a no-win situation.

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baddog

You realize what a "burner" is? Pyrotechnics to go with the gas; it was definitely foreseeable considering what the building was made of. I was listening to the owner of the building a few hours before it got dark; it seemed to me that she had not figured out this was its last night.

fitzmulti

Police intentionally torch cabin of Chris Dorner

Uhm it was NOT HIS cabin...and even if they did intentionally set fire to it to drive it out...good for them. Fucking cop killer.

Exactly...

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CIA, ATF, and LA cops were tested recently by the president to find a rabbit in the woods.

1. The CIA spent 10 millions and said the rabbit was dead.
2. ATF burned the woods down and said the rabbit was a child molester.
3. LAPD dragged a beaten bear out of the woods crying "ok, I'm a rabbit"

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Rochard

That's what I was thinking.

But even if the cops intentionally tried to burn him out of the building - sounds perfectly reasonable to me. Walk around killing cops and their kids and they aren't going to be too nice about it.

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georgeyw

It is not reasonable at all to burn down a house to get someone out / kill them. It never has been reasonable and never will be.

By your logic anyone who is a victim should be able to exact justice without trial.

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Rochard

Front page of the news just now.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/n...attle/1915961/

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Rochard

Your right. Clearly the best solution here would have been to stave him out. I wonder how much over time was racked up in the past week because of this nut.

How the fuck was he a victim? He killed innocent people because of some perceived slight.

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georgeyw

Clearly the best solution is to torch a persons property, clearly. Shooting up civilian cars is another way to get this guy too - blue, black, green, whatever so long as it has 4 wheels and a steering wheel.

My god, are you serious?

I said that any VICTIM should be able to exact their own justice by your logic, due to the FACT that the police in this scenarios (victims) are exacting their own justice here.

Reading is useless if you are unable to comprehend...

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Jim_Gunn

Total bullshit. The police should be held to a higher standard. If they needed to knock down the cabin with an armored vehicle or shoot him dead as he fired bullets at them it's understandable. But burning the cabin down to silence him is what they did.

The police need to learn some respect and humility when dealing with the public. Their attitude is horrible and they believe the ends justify the means even if they are in wrong. And when they are in the wrong they just lie in court and cover it up.

Point a video camera or cell phone camera at any police officer and see how angry they get and how violently they react. There's a reason for that. Its because they are afraid of getting caught impinging on citizen's rights or worse yet engaging in outright illegal activity in the course of their job as they do many times in every shift.

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Reading homework for tonight

Lynching
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Mad Max
Civilization

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lezinterracial

They did the same thing to Robert Jay Matthews, Leader of the Order. They shot flares into the cabin. He was dangerous as hell too.

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baddog

That is not what happened. They shot in a pyrotechnic gas canister, he apparently shot himself; what he did not do was surrender.

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big deal.

bronco67

They were playing some clips of the firefight on one of the cable news channels, and the police said they fired about 500 rounds. From the audio, I heard about 500 rounds in the 10 second clip I saw. It sounded like the Tet Offensive.

How can one guy hold an entire police force at bay?

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case fucking closed, there's a picture with words on the internet...

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so has nilem closed down yet? you hardly post your awful pics anymore!

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The police knew by using "burners" that it would light the wood cabin on fire. Its pretty obvious they wanted to "cook" this guy. Here is another example of how these "burners" were used in the past.
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_a...a_force.h tml

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baddog

He could have surrendered; he said he wasn't coming in alive. What seems to be the problem?

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Exactly... They were obviously not planning to take him alive. I hope the police who over reacted and shot at innocent citizens are prosecuted, put in prison and lose their pension.
How the fuck do you just shoot at a car when your not 100% sure?

epitome

Once you have a shootout with the police they can do whatever the fuck they want.

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Damn ...

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"We did not intentionally burn down that cabin to get Mr. Dorner out," Sheriff John McMahon said at an afternoon news conference.

Ofcourse they didn't burn it down to get him out. They knew he wasn't coming out.

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stinkyfingers

of course not. Hey everybody turn off your camera's... we're about to "not burn this motherfucker down" ... okay. alright then. Once again, everyone turn off the logic and common sense that god gave you and listen to the Sherriff John "I didn't inhale" "I didn't have sex with that women" "we didn't burn it down" McMahon

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All of the gun grabbers/anti-gun nuts here seem to conveniently forget Dorner was a self confessed Obama supporter and a anti-gun nut. Kinda throws a stick in the "rightwing gun nut" wheel. SO now it should be pretty obvious the true fucking insane ones are the leftwing anti-gun nuts who will go on cop killing sprees to support their cause. Just like..hmm. Weather Underground comes to mind.. Wasn't Obama's mentor involved with that?

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NikKay

So help me understand your line of thinking... it's okay for someone who's been given a badge to play judge/jury/executioner... but then in the thread about the father shooting the drunk driver that killed his sons it's "never okay"?

Best-In-BC

Yep, nothing wrong with public servants acting like animals, ROFL, really ?

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Fantastic Article from my favorite magazine


http://reason.com/blog/2013/02/13/we...adult-conversa


We?re Not Going to Have an ?Adult Conversation? About State Violence, Are We?

Ed Krayewski|Feb. 13, 2013 7:11 pm

health of the stateFacebookMore than a week after first allegedly shooting the daughter of a police officer and her fiancée, the Christopher Dorner saga ended with him most likely burning up in a cabin in which he holed up this week. The police may have set the fire themselves. Another account has the police pushing Dorner back into the burning structure [8:34pm ET update]. Officially it?s still unclear how the fire began*. Nevertheless, at the end of it, three four people were killed by a former police officer out on a vendetta against his former police force. And the LAPD responded by coming down on the city of Los Angeles for a week, shooting seemingly indiscriminately at targets that bore only the vaguest resemblance to Dorner and searching homes door to door. Almost comically, Dorner?s alleged manifesto included strong anti-gun sentiments. It?s useful to note here that most attempts at gun control include generous exemptions both for law enforcement and often ex-law enforcement. Feinstein?s bill does that. There was widespread panic when Cuomo?s anti-gun laws in New York didn?t.

Yet, Dorner, and ex-cops, aren?t the only ones that can be irresponsible gun owners. Earlier this week the attorney general of Ohio released an animation depicting how 13 cops managed to fire off an astonishing 137 rounds in under 30 seconds into a car with two unarmed passengers they pursued in a high speed chase after a phantom gunshot was heard in another town. Facing a critical eye from state authorities, the local police chief defended his force, saying there was none of the systemic failure the attorney general noted, even though the shift supervisor, for example, was unaware the chase involved so many patrol cars. But Timothy Russell and Malissa Williams, the two unarmed civilians killed by police in Ohio, are far from the only ones. Reason?s Mike Riggs noted some of the most prominent victims of police violence when New York City?s mayor, Michael Bloomberg, arrogantly suggested police go on strike until the population is disarmed:

What about Kelly Thomas, who screamed for his father while five cops beat him to death? Or Patricia Cook, shot to death by a deranged alcoholic with a badge? Or Andrew Scott, killed during a wrong-door raid? Or Nick Christie, gagged and pepper-sprayed to death by prison guards? Or Seth Adams, shot four times by a cop behind his family business, then left to die? Or Wendell Allen, who was unarmed when a New Orleans cop shot and killed him during a raid? Or Ramarley Graham, the 18-year-old New Yorker shot and killed by plainclothes cops for trying to flush a small bag of marijuana down the toilet? Or Kyle Miller, killed by Colorado police for waving a BB gun in the air? Or Todd Blair, killed by Utah police for raising a golf club above his head?

That's a smattering of names from the last year or so. A complete list is impossible, though you could spend months culling names from local media outlets. It would be significantly longer if we included people who were shot, but didn't die; or people who were just shot at by cops. It would be exponentially longer if we included people who were beaten, intimidated, wrongly arrested/incarcerated, or otherwise abused by police officers.

Just a few months after Riggs wrote that, cops from the NYPD were involved in taking down a shooter at the Empire State Building. They shot more people in responding to the incident than the initial shooter. In fact, everyone but the coworker the shooter killed, was injured by shots from police officers.

At last night?s State of the Union address, President Obama suggested victims of gun violence deserve a vote in Congress. In the shadow of victims of state violence at home and abroad (up to 1,100 civilians and more than 200 children in known covert drone operations alone), the sentiment rings hollow. There won?t be votes for any of the victims of state violence listed above. And as for Dorner, he may not deserve much, but it looks like at the end he didn?t even deserve a jury trial.






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ajrocks

I but you the innocent owner of that home might not think it was a good idea to burn down everything he owns.

This is illegal, murder and intentional destruction of private property. They'll end up in shit for this.

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Rochard

What do you expect the police to do? This is a man that has killed multiple people, threatened others, kidnapped, car jacked, and just shot two officers.... Are you saying the police should have pulled back, giving him the chance to escape, so he could shoot two more people?

He could have surrendered at any time. Instead he kept shooting at police officers. Eventually the police bring in bigger and bigger weapons.

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I guess we'll see it in the movie.

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Badly trained and itchy trigger fingered local cops, eager for some action/attention. With over 14,000 local agencies, so called "police officers" can run their own show and get away with it 99% of the time.

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Rochard

A private citizen who kills another man for DUI has just committed murder. A police officer who kills a suspect while trying to arrest him during a gun battle is doing his job.

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crockett

I posted about this when it happened and also posted a few extra links to audio where the cops clearly planned to burn the house down.

The media as usual isn't doing their job and they are just white washing this for the cops.

The links I posted yesterday when it happened..

https://gfy.com/showpost.php?p=19477818&postcount=124

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https://gfy.com/showpost.php?p=19478601&postcount=150

There are a few others out there as well with bits and pieces of more info. When I was listening to the scanner there were over 10k other people listening at the same time. It was only 1 scanner on 1 site and there were several of these up with the same kind of numbers.

Lot of people heard what was going on, but the media will still bury it. At best it will be published on some back page blog or a less controversial headline a week or two later that doesn't rise an eyebrow.

The cops never intended to let him live. I can't say I blame them, but then again cops are not above the law and they should be held accountable. No one else can simply do what they want because they wanted to if it means breaking the law or a oath they took for public service.

baddog

He never intended to be taken alive and was going to take as many with him as possible on the way out. He got four.

PR_Glen

quoted for childish nonsense...

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