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  • ophiucus
    Registered User
    • Nov 2010
    • 5
    #1

    Virtual reality porn - with real life models - 3D scanned

    Hello,

    First of all as I am not a big poster on gfy, I can't activate links, sorry about that

    I'm here to present my website and have your opinion on my idea :
    3drealtimeporn DOT com

    I've been working on this for a couple of months now, and I could simply resume it as follow :
    -> creating "virtual reality porn".

    I'm sure that VR will be part of the future of porn, it's in the continuity of displaying images, but this time in 3D. When I mean 3D I don't mean stereo view nor "toon" or fully computer generated. I mean shooting real girls (scanning) in complete 3D, so that the user can manipulate the view as he want, which also allow him to immerse himself in the scene with virtual reality glasses like the "oculus rift".

    Creating 3D scans is pretty complex and takes a lot of time.
    Probably in the future the operation will be easier (faster computers, better cameras), the same way photography evolved from an elite discipline to mass market where you simply press a button.
    For the moment I can not capture movement, so the characters are still (I will add some breathing motion to them).

    The current scans that you can see on my website are not pefect, the technique used was structured light, which resulted in loss of data for the areas not covered, and textures that lacked a bit of sharpness.



    Thanksfully, I managed to find a way to do 3D scans with a new technique, which creates perfect full geometry, high res textures etc.

    Right now I am trying to get some funds to get me started, so that I can shoots some models in Prague.
    I created a project on Offbeatr.com, the project is here :

    offbeatr DOT com/project/virtual-reality-porn-with-real-life-models-1603182420

    Please have a look and if you are interested, don't forget to place a vote.

    I'd be glad to hear your opinion about VR and my idea in particular.

    Thank you
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    • sperbonzo
      I'd rather be on my boat.
      • May 2003
      • 9750
      #2
      Still looks pretty rough, and the rendering isn't very good yet. Definitely needs work on the graphics and text IMHO....




      .... Good luck!









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        • bronco67
          Too lazy to set a custom title
          • Dec 2006
          • 29026
          #3
          I'm wondering if you at least have a basic understanding of how manipulating 3d geometry works. Ok, you can scan a real looking girl, but making her move(especially if she's realistic) is incredibly difficult. I've been doing it for years, and can tell you it's not easy.

          Remember, this has to work in realtime, so scanned model(high poly) with deformable joints is going to take artists at the level of ILM or Digital Domain, and the end user will need superior hardware to run it.
          Last edited by bronco67; 09-20-2013, 07:51 AM.

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            • Markul
              Likes Pie
              • Dec 2007
              • 12407
              #4
              Clickable links:

              http://3drealtimeporn.com/
              http://offbeatr.com/project/virtual-...els-1603182420

              Good luck with the project
              But.... I pulled out...

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                • ophiucus
                  Registered User
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 5
                  #5
                  Well thanks for the feedback guys..

                  bronco67, yes I have an idea on how difficult rigging and animation is for 3D characters. (I am a rigger, and I worked a bit for the film industry).

                  But I didn't plan to do any animation for the 3D scans. I was thinking about adding some breathing motion, to make them look more alive. That's it.
                  The perfect situation would be to capture the motion directly and switching between scans as a movie does with images. Maybe in a few years..

                  Right now it's totaly possible for an average laptop (with 1Gb graphic card) to display a few scans, in stereoscopic view, at 60 fps.

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                    • bronco67
                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                      • Dec 2006
                      • 29026
                      #6
                      Originally posted by ophiucus
                      Right now it's totaly possible for an average laptop (with 1Gb graphic card) to display a few scans, in stereoscopic view, at 60 fps.
                      True....and I can spin around a static model with millions of polys in Softimage. But when I start deforming it, that another story.

                      Anyway, it sounds like you know what you're up against. Good luck.

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                        • Lichen
                          Tube Master
                          • May 2004
                          • 1640
                          #7
                          Word of advice: don't quit your dayjob.

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                            • ophiucus
                              Registered User
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 5
                              #8
                              Lichen, could you be more specific please ?

                              "Don't quit your day job" because ...
                              1) my site sucks ?
                              2) scan quality sucks ?
                              3) VR porn will never off ?
                              4) other : ?

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                                • pornmasta
                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                  • Jun 2006
                                  • 19834
                                  #9
                                  some fake 3d girls render better

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                                    • Best-In-BC
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • Jun 2002
                                      • 9509
                                      #10
                                      one day it will be pretty cool
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                                        • bronco67
                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                          • Dec 2006
                                          • 29026
                                          #11
                                          Originally posted by pornmasta
                                          some fake 3d girls render better
                                          Honestly, I don't even see the point of a "real" looking 3d girl. Should be stylized, because that's what you can't get in real life --- and it would be easier to animate and render also.

                                          Real is overrated when it comes to digital animation. There's a fine line between real and "creepy".

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                                            • ophiucus
                                              Registered User
                                              • Nov 2010
                                              • 5
                                              #12
                                              The technology is here already.

                                              I aim to create content close to that definition
                                              Have a look at this :
                                              ir-ltd DOT net/multi-sky-3d-scan-tools/

                                              And for the animation check this tech demo :
                                              youtube DOT com/watch?v=JBjGEMmq7X8

                                              We probably need a few years before having graphic cards that can display a full length movie that way, but still, I think this is something that can change the industry.

                                              Any of you tried the oculus rift ?

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                                                • TheSquealer
                                                  Mayor of Thneedville
                                                  • Oct 2004
                                                  • 26272
                                                  #13
                                                  Originally posted by bronco67
                                                  Honestly, I don't even see the point of a "real" looking 3d girl. Should be stylized, because that's what you can't get in real life --- and it would be easier to animate and render also.
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                                                    • Colmike9
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                                                      • Dec 2011
                                                      • 7217
                                                      #14
                                                      You need some help? I've been working with 3d in both real time and rendered since I was little. No offense, but.....
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                                                        • Markul
                                                          Likes Pie
                                                          • Dec 2007
                                                          • 12407
                                                          #15
                                                          Originally posted by ophiucus
                                                          Lichen, could you be more specific please ?

                                                          "Don't quit your day job" because ...
                                                          1) my site sucks ?
                                                          2) scan quality sucks ?
                                                          3) VR porn will never off ?
                                                          4) other : ?
                                                          I can only comment about 1. You need to work out the way you present things, have you made any sales so far? The site sure could use a hand, it looks very "old" and not in a good way.
                                                          But.... I pulled out...

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                                                            • TheSquealer
                                                              Mayor of Thneedville
                                                              • Oct 2004
                                                              • 26272
                                                              #16
                                                              Originally posted by ophiucus
                                                              The technology is here already.

                                                              I aim to create content close to that definition
                                                              Have a look at this :
                                                              ir-ltd DOT net/multi-sky-3d-scan-tools/

                                                              And for the animation check this tech demo :
                                                              youtube DOT com/watch?v=JBjGEMmq7X8

                                                              We probably need a few years before having graphic cards that can display a full length movie that way, but still, I think this is something that can change the industry. What are people expected to pay for that they can't get with real girls or 3d?

                                                              Any of you tried the oculus rift ?
                                                              My question when looking at it from a business perspective is simply "why".

                                                              What is your market?
                                                              What problem are you solving?
                                                              What are the benefits to users?
                                                              What is the value to customers?
                                                              What are you improving?

                                                              I understand liking an idea and pursuing it.. but as a business, I honestly can't see where this is going what what the benefit of it is.... particularly to surfers.

                                                              You seem to be in love with the idea of the "technology" and creating, but where is the consumer in this?
                                                              Last edited by TheSquealer; 09-20-2013, 09:52 AM.
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                                                                • bronco67
                                                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                  • Dec 2006
                                                                  • 29026
                                                                  #17
                                                                  Originally posted by TheSquealer
                                                                  My question when looking at it from a business perspective is simply "why".

                                                                  What is your market?
                                                                  What problem are you solving?
                                                                  What are the benefits to users?
                                                                  What is the value to customers?
                                                                  What are you improving?

                                                                  I understand liking an idea and pursuing it.. but as a business, I honestly can't see where this is going what what the benefit of it is.... particularly to surfers.

                                                                  You seem to be in love with the idea of the "technology" and creating, but where is the consumer in this?
                                                                  Exactly. There's no point in using a replication of a real girl, if only for the fact that you don't want to deal with filming real girls. Using a real girl would look better and be less hassle technically.

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                                                                    • adultmobile
                                                                      No, I am not banned
                                                                      • Nov 2003
                                                                      • 5345
                                                                      #18
                                                                      Your youtube example embedded:



                                                                      Except the rotating 3d girl example in the site having holes in the body, which could be surely fixed, the issue as other pointed it is: why one shoulod pay $29.95 to access that type of content? This technique could be useful to make one still (2D) movie, for example you take a 3d scan of a naked girl, then you want to transform into a monster or alien for a sci-fi movie, this is what this technique is used for.

                                                                      If you keep the naked girl "as is" and just rotate and make breath, then to me it is easier you go to a cam site (for example ours, tubecamgirl) and you see real girls who "rotate" if you tip them $5 and even laugh if you write stupid things in chat, in realtime.

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                                                                        • Magnetron
                                                                          Lord High Groundhog
                                                                          • Jun 2013
                                                                          • 1841
                                                                          #19
                                                                          One real world application of this product would be for art students and artists in need of the ability to control lighting and then capture and print out screenshots of a model posing from any angle desired. Scans of real bodies would then be a must.

                                                                          This would be alot more convenient than something like http://www.posespace.com/
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                                                                            • TheSquealer
                                                                              Mayor of Thneedville
                                                                              • Oct 2004
                                                                              • 26272
                                                                              #20
                                                                              Originally posted by Magnetron
                                                                              One real world application of this product would be for art students and artists in need of the ability to control lighting and then capture and print out screenshots of a model posing from any angle desired. Scans of real bodies would then be a must.

                                                                              This would be alot more convenient than something like http://www.posespace.com/
                                                                              Again, a 3d model is just as real as a real model right now. Better even as was suggested that you an stylize the model anyway you want.. Further, you could replicate any lighting conditions you wanted from any type of environment, light fixtures/bulbs to longitude/latitudes and time of year. This stuff exists right now. In fact, I was learning 3d studio max in 98/99 and it existed then.
                                                                              Last edited by TheSquealer; 09-20-2013, 01:14 PM.
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                                                                                • Colmike9
                                                                                  (>^_^)b
                                                                                  • Dec 2011
                                                                                  • 7217
                                                                                  #21
                                                                                  Originally posted by TheSquealer
                                                                                  Again, a 3d model is just as real as a real model right now. Better even as was suggested that you an stylize the model anyway you want.. Further, you could replicate any lighting conditions you wanted from any type of environment, light fixtures/bulbs to longitude/latitudes and time of year. This stuff exists right now. In fact, I was learning 3d studio max in 98/99 and it existed then.

                                                                                  lol, I started with 3dsMax in 99, too. Even then those 3d models above would be laughed at...

                                                                                  I would use a program like 3dGamestudio and make a decent adult video game, maybe utilizing the scanned models in the game, but don't make it the whole focus. No one these days is going to download an outdated model viewer and pay $25 to view what you have with it.. There is no softbodies/dynamic lighting/fun themes/etc plus interactivity seems very limited and half of the vertices are missing.. You can get much more out of a nude mod/skin..
                                                                                  Or just make a fun interactive game or viewer and include the models, maybe just skinning very close models of the girls in the game. Just because the tech exists to scan a model in 3d, doesn't mean it's good enough to sell..

                                                                                  Look at Sex Station 7. It's the shittiest adult shooter ever made with a Half Life engine, but it still sells for some reason..
                                                                                  Last edited by Colmike9; 09-20-2013, 01:22 PM.
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                                                                                    • Magnetron
                                                                                      Lord High Groundhog
                                                                                      • Jun 2013
                                                                                      • 1841
                                                                                      #22
                                                                                      Originally posted by TheSquealer
                                                                                      Again, a 3d model is just as real as a real model right now. Better even as was suggested that you an stylize the model anyway you want.. Further, you could replicate any lighting conditions you wanted from any type of environment, light fixtures/bulbs to longitude/latitudes and time of year. This stuff exists right now. In fact, I was learning 3d studio max in 98/99 and it existed then.
                                                                                      I was just pointing out what his product could be used for. That was the only practical application I could manage to come up with other than putting on some goggles and fapping.
                                                                                      .
                                                                                      Approach the mirrored reflection saying his name three times : "Butcher .... Butcher .... Butcher ....."
                                                                                      and wait to see if this Bogeyman urban legend manifests in the background, looming over shoulder
                                                                                      While your neighbors were busy killing off everyone in the neighborhood
                                                                                      with your own butcher knife in hand concealed behind your back
                                                                                      you stood for
                                                                                      ever before the window saying
                                                                                      nothing

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                                                                                        • ilnjscb
                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                          • Jun 2009
                                                                                          • 8957
                                                                                          #23
                                                                                          OP I suggest you market the raw scan data and let the 3d market catch up with you.

                                                                                          Right now there is a huge demand for voiced romances in skyrim, etc, and the scripts are already in. The trouble is you have a static environment, no scripting, and no bounding. Find someplace you can put these models and you've got something to move toward.

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                                                                                            • Magnetron
                                                                                              Lord High Groundhog
                                                                                              • Jun 2013
                                                                                              • 1841
                                                                                              #24
                                                                                              Originally posted by Colmike7

                                                                                              lol, I started with 3dsMax in 99, too. Even then those 3d models above would be laughed at...

                                                                                              I would use a program like 3dGamestudio and make a decent adult video game, maybe utilizing the scanned models in the game, but don't make it the whole focus. No one these days is going to download an outdated model viewer and pay $25 to view what you have with it.. There is no softbodies/dynamic lighting/fun themes/etc plus interactivity seems very limited and half of the vertices are missing.. You can get much more out of a nude mod/skin..
                                                                                              Or just make a fun interactive game or viewer and include the models, maybe just skinning very close models of the girls in the game. Just because the tech exists to scan a model in 3d, doesn't mean it's good enough to sell..

                                                                                              Look at Sex Station 7. It's the shittiest adult shooter ever made with a Half Life engine, but it still sells for some reason..
                                                                                              I'm getting nostalgic thinking about importing 128 pixel bitmap textures into Surreal's Riot Engine.
                                                                                              .
                                                                                              Approach the mirrored reflection saying his name three times : "Butcher .... Butcher .... Butcher ....."
                                                                                              and wait to see if this Bogeyman urban legend manifests in the background, looming over shoulder
                                                                                              While your neighbors were busy killing off everyone in the neighborhood
                                                                                              with your own butcher knife in hand concealed behind your back
                                                                                              you stood for
                                                                                              ever before the window saying
                                                                                              nothing

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                                                                                                • MrDeiz
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                                                                                                  • 9802
                                                                                                  #25
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                                                                                                    • BaldBastard
                                                                                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                      • Jan 2001
                                                                                                      • 16855
                                                                                                      #26
                                                                                                      Seems like an idea for the future and not ready yet for paying members.

                                                                                                      I want a 3d site where I can upload a face picture, apply that to a model of my choice, have software render that so it looks slightly realistic. And then make my own sex movies from that.. Your mom is the first :P Then every hot chick on facebook :P

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                                                                                                        • dezmondel
                                                                                                          3D animator
                                                                                                          • May 2012
                                                                                                          • 141
                                                                                                          #27
                                                                                                          .

                                                                                                          back when Jesus was in kindergarten, there was this hip & cool technology called QTVR.
                                                                                                          people thought it to be the next best thing since images for erotic applications, but as Magnetron mentioned, it ended up as a nice tool for artists.

                                                                                                          technology is one thing, what you do with it something entirely different.

                                                                                                          you got some cool technology, you figured it out, but now you gotta come up with an angle... an irresistible reason for people to wanna use/see it.

                                                                                                          ... after all, there might not be a lot of reason to invest into something that can be done with a cellphone camera, a nice turntable and that lousy QTVR program (if it even exists)

                                                                                                          best wishes for your project ophiucus!

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