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SilentKnight · 02-10-2013, 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by ninavain

paying more??? What teachers are you talking about? Teachers don't make jack shit

See post #8.

(thanks Mutt)

Fiddy kids who can't write worth jack shit.

baddog · 02-10-2013, 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by mineistaken

How is that even possible? Don't you ever leave notes? I use hand writing almost every day in various situations.

I can only guess that you are unclear what cursive is. You don't think someone can leave them self a note that is not in cursive?

DWB · 02-11-2013, 05:56 AM

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Originally Posted by mineistaken

How is that even possible? Don't you ever leave notes? I use hand writing almost every day in various situations.

But do you write cursive when you do?

RebelR · 02-11-2013, 07:00 AM

I think the point is that while you may get by without it, people do still use it. That generation are going to walk up to their bosses one day and say "hey boss this list of stuff you said you want done, well I have no idea what it says". It's right up there with the cashiers who can't make change when the register doesn't tell them what it is. Keyboards and calculators have dumbed kids down

PornDiscounts-V · 02-11-2013, 07:07 AM

Going to be a sad day when you have to wait for your iNotepad to charge before you can leave your wife a note that you went out to get some groceries.

DamianJ · 02-11-2013, 07:10 AM

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Originally Posted by pornguy

Pay them more and more? How much do they get paid in canada? in the US I believe the average starting is like 28K

Same in England, they are paid fuck all and have to work ridiculously long hours in very very hard environments.

Anyone that thinks teachers have it easy either don't know any teachers or have no kids.

However, the point here is clearly no one read the fucking article. ONE teacher has said that possibly they don't need to teach cursive handwriting anymore.

That's all it is. One person's view. Not a proposal, not a bill, not legislation.

PR_Glen · 02-11-2013, 07:18 AM

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Originally Posted by ~Ray

my cursive sucks... but I learned it.

If that time could have been better spent learning a NEW real world skill, then I would agree.

Typing is becoming a very necessary skill as opposed to only girls who took it back when I was in school.

so having the ability to hand write an essay question during an exam isn't a real world skill? Cursive is faster than printing, its the sole reason for its existence...

what real world skill would you have them do instead? some plumbing?

BlackCrayon · 02-11-2013, 07:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Mutt

teachers get paid big in Canada, and pensions to match. I posted these stats for Canadian public sector salaries versus private sector salaries. You'll see that a high school teacher is making 100-120K a year - elementary school teachers 60-80K

People with good jobs working for the government in Canada are upper middle class, many of them are in the 1% income bracket we heard so much about during the Occupy movement but nobody said shit about it. It's wrong, who pays the salaries of all those public sector fat cats? The average joe making the Canadian average income of $46,000, the people with their own small businesses who risk their own capital and no pension plan.
When I was a kid school teachers made a little better than average income, now they make TWICE the average income - two high school teachers married to each other pull in about $250,000 a year, with about 3 months off a year.

you obviously don't actually know any teachers because if you did, you'd know its not true. teachers who have been working for 40 years in major cities *might* make that much but otherwise, its simply not true. My mother has been teaching since the early 70's and she bring in around 90k gross. Before taxes, before the huge union dues they pay and other deductions. after all that its about 60k. still a good income but think about other teachers, the majority have not been teaching that long. new teachers today don't make anything near the same amount as teachers who have been teaching for 40 years. and government workers making over 100k? its the minority not the majority.

as for cursive, i haven't used it since high school. looking back i have to laugh, taking typing class and hating it, thinking it was a total waste of time and something i'd never really use. boy, was i wrong. i barely passed the class and ended up having to learn it on my own not long after high school when the internet got my attention and i started making sites.

PR_Glen · 02-11-2013, 07:25 AM

wait a minute.. how much time did you guys spend learning cursive? I learned it in a two week unit in grade 4.. it's not like it takes years to learn...

what a dumb argument..

mineistaken · 02-11-2013, 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by baddog

I can only guess that you are unclear what cursive is. You don't think someone can leave them self a note that is not in cursive?

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Originally Posted by DWB

But do you write cursive when you do?

Of course I do it in cursive. Unless the note is 1 or 2 words. I would be completely reatarded to leave 1, 2 or 3 sentence note that is written in separate letters

Fuck, even if I saw a 2 word note written in sparate letters I would thing WTF is that, did a child write it

Jim_Gunn · 02-11-2013, 10:36 AM

I can't even write cursive anymore. Seems pretty antiquated and unnecessary at this point.

m3merlin · 02-11-2013, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by onwebcam

There's no need for cursive. Hell I'm not even sure I can write all the letters anymore.

Exactly. Whats the point? We finger tap on devices and bang keys. My writing consists of signing receipts, pretty much it.

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PR_Glen Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Canada Posts: 9,058	wait a minute.. how much time did you guys spend learning cursive? I learned it in a two week unit in grade 4.. it's not like it takes years to learn... what a dumb argument.. __________________ webmaster at pimproll dot com

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PornDiscounts-V Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: L.A. Posts: 5,744	Going to be a sad day when you have to wait for your iNotepad to charge before you can leave your wife a note that you went out to get some groceries.

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Jim_Gunn Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Where The Teens Are Posts: 5,702	I can't even write cursive anymore. Seems pretty antiquated and unnecessary at this point.