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Old 02-03-2013, 02:14 PM   #51
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but thats not what i meant with "we" or "me"...

The NATO provides protection, Iceland pays into the NATO budget.

Just like any NATO country provides help when any other NATO country is attacked.

And the NATO is more than just the US (the general secretary is a danish dude for example)

i don't need an education on nato.

i can assure you the white helmets will not be defending a a nation anytime soon and you know that too. if iceland were attacked, nato would be sending emails and issuing press releases.
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Old 02-03-2013, 02:31 PM   #52
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funky - Germany just sent missiles and personnel to Turkey in case of any new attacks from Syria ;)

and btw - i dont want to educate anyone - but you kept repeating something that is simply not true - at least not after 2006

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Old 02-03-2013, 02:40 PM   #53
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funky - Germany just sent missiles and personnel to Turkey in case of any new attacks from Syria ;)

and btw - i dont want to educate anyone - but you kept repeating something that is simply not true - at least not after 2006
it's your choice, you can continue thinking nato is a viable defense strategy going into to 21st century or not. but there's a lot out there showing otherwise.

not sure what you are referring to that i am incorrect about after 2006? that the u.s. covers iceland's ass?

that u.s. covers 70% of the nato defense budget and even more of its strategy?

that austerity measures are wiping out the puny defenses european countries have to begin with due to them letting the u.s. cover that?
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Old 02-03-2013, 02:44 PM   #54
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Obama administration officials warned last year that European members of NATO could no longer expect the United States to shoulder a disproportionate burden of maintaining the 28-member alliance, the bedrock of trans-Atlantic security and diplomacy since the end of World War II. The United States accounts for 75 percent of all NATO defense spending, up from 50 percent during the Cold War.
http://articles.washingtonpost.com/2...ropean-members

Norwegian Defense Minister Espen
Barth Eide has claimed that “exercises
have shown that NATO’s ability to conduct
conventional military operations has
markedly declined. […] Not only is NATO’s
ability to defend its member states
questionable, it might actually deteriorate
further as financial pressures in Europe and
the US force cuts in military spending”.4
http://www.brookings.edu/~/media/res...odonnell%20pdf
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Old 02-03-2013, 02:52 PM   #55
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who would want to have Iceland and for what?
Well if nobody else wants it, I'll gladly take it.
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Old 02-03-2013, 05:44 PM   #56
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it's your choice, you can continue thinking nato is a viable defense strategy going into to 21st century or not. but there's a lot out there showing otherwise.

not sure what you are referring to that i am incorrect about after 2006? that the u.s. covers iceland's ass?

that u.s. covers 70% of the nato defense budget and even more of its strategy?

that austerity measures are wiping out the puny defenses european countries have to begin with due to them letting the u.s. cover that?
oh jeeez... i didnt want to go all political over this - just stating a fact

actually i am not interested in defense strategies, i chose to wipe asses instead of carrying a gun. i despise military.

but i think that 95% of all worldwide military is useless anyways against a few people with nothing to lose and a bag of explosives
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Old 02-03-2013, 05:45 PM   #57
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- just stating a fact
what fact did you state?
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