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This is the danger of moral relativisim.
CyberSEO thinks that if Iranian people all vote to kill gays, or have slaves, or whatever, then that makes it ok. If Russia voted to kill all of those that work in Adult, or SEO, and he was taken into custody and killed, he would be happy with that since everyone else had voted on it, and he would want to respect the culture. If Russia voted to hang all mothers over the age of 40, he would not mind when the police grabbed his mom and hanged her, since that would be what the people had decided.
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Too many :if's" there. "If they this", "if they that"... bla-bla-bla. When "new" Americans were killing natives there was no "if's". They just did that and it was ok (who cares, yeah?) When they have slavery it was ok too. God, they have a segregation till the 2nd part of 20s century, and they still have KKK (legally!) No "if's" there, just facts. They nuked civilians in Hiroshima and Nagasaki without any "if's" too. Should I mention Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya etc? No "if's" there as well as no "dangers of moral relativism". This is how Hitler felt, I believe.Obey the CowgodComment
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I know that Asspimple is stoopid ... As he says, it is a FACT !
But I can't figure out how he can breathe or type , at the same time ....Comment
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This is true, but you have to take it in proper context. This was during WWII, everyone was tired of fighting, and at the time this was just a "bigger bomb". It wasn't until years later when the rest of the world feared the nuclear bomb that it became an evil thing.
I don't understand the race to join the nuclear club. If North Korea gets the bomb next week, it's not going to change a thing - because the US will still have the bomb. Launch one and that's that.Herschel Savage
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Death Penalty for capital murder applies state to state. Some have it, and some don't. I don't agree with it.
There is no country on earth that has not committed atrocities. Russia is pretty high up on the list offenders, so I'm not sure that you would want to hold it up as a great example of any sort of virtue.
I also don't agree with nuking or invading other countries that are different. So what? Why does that have to do with your statements about gays being killed in Iran? You said in this thread that to say that it is wrong is to show "intolerance toward other cultures". You even compared anyone saying that it is wrong to the Nazi's! Therefore, as long as it's "another culture", then it's ok with you....
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It didn't have to be 'legalised' again, its a moratorium!!P.S. FYI the moratorium has ended, but the death penalty was not legalized after that. RTFM.
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BTW you didn't answer to my question however. Don't you trade with the USA anymore? If you forgot, they still have a death penalty...Last edited by just a punk; 01-31-2013, 07:26 AM.Obey the CowgodComment
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It is still legal in Russia and still has only been suspended.Capital punishment in Russia has been indefinitely suspended,[1] although it is legally allowed (with the only method being shooting). There exists both an implicit moratorium established by the President and an explicit one, established by the nation's highest court. Russia has not executed anyone since 1996, and the regulations of the Council of Europe prohibit it from doing so at any time in the future. However, the death penalty still remains codified.
In the recent years, President Vladimir Putin stated that Russia will retain its moratorium at least until 2010. In November 2009, the Constitutional Court of Russia extended the ban.[1]
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Read this:
Hint: http://translate.google.com/19 ноября 2009 года Конституционный Суд РФ признал, что после 1 января 2010 года назначение смертной казни в России невозможно. Как указал Конституционный суд РФ, Россия связана обязательством не предпринимать действий, которые искажают суть Протокола № 6 к Конвенции о защите прав человека и основных свобод, касающийся отмены смертной казни, пока она официально не выразит свое намерение не быть его участником. К этому обязывает статья 18 Венской конвенции о праве международных договоров. Поэтому Россия с 16 апреля 1997 года не может ни назначать наказание в виде смертной казни, ни исполнять его.
P.S. So what about my question?Last edited by just a punk; 01-31-2013, 07:39 AM.Obey the CowgodComment
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Dude I don't even know how to explain this to you since you obviously base your opinions on something other than fact.
Yea I know about democracy, I live in one - we have freedom of speech, do you have that? No. Do you really think that you live in a democracy? Really? I've been to your country, I've run a business there (not mine though, but I was the ops. mgr. for departments in most countries in Europe and your country).
Do you know how many people we had to bribe just to be able to operate in Russia? Granted this was 7-8 years ago, but I had to have fucking bodyguards to move around in Moscow after dark... wow. what a safe and wonderful place to live.
Anyhow, have you been to my country or did you just judge an entire country based on one persons opinion? We have no poor, we have plenty of things that are fucked up, but we treat people like people and while the politicians lie as they all do - we have no corruption. Can you say the same about where you live? Or did people really reelect Putin and would it be safe for you to go demonstrate in front of his cabinet? I think not.
Have you spoken to any Iranians that's fled because they didn't have the opinion of the majority and was afraid to be hanged or stoned to death? Do you really think I'm advocating nuking civilians? Come on man, really? That's not what I meant. But the Iranian "priests" that runs the country needs to be taken out - that's for sure and once they get the bomb we're all in fucking trouble. Why do you think it's ok for some islamist radicals to have nukes? They blatantly support terrorists.
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Depends on what exactly you understand on "freedom of speech"? Enlighten me, please. It looks like you know a lot about it and about my country if you said there "No".
I can ask you the same question. There is no a single democratic country on the Earth. Democracy is just an concept. Some parts of democracy can be used by society, but only parts. If you are REALLY believe that you are living in democracy, I feel sorry for you.
This is called "corruption" and has no relation to "democracy".
Вodyguards to move around in Moscow after dark. LOL
))) It's a joke, right?
Which one? I've been to many counties because I love to traveling.
I'm sincerely happy for you, but why do you tell me this? Should it be considered as a justification of your call to nuke Iran (kill millions of people including women and children)?Obey the CowgodComment
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You need to get out in the real world man, sorry but it sounds like you live in your moms basement or something. I can't argue with shit like that I give up, you win, Russia is an awesome democratic country and Iran deserves to have nukes. Sure.
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But do answer me this please.
CyberSEO: Why are you on a US board if you hate Americans?But.... I pulled out...Comment
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1) This is not the American forum. It's the webmaster's one.
2) I'm not against Americans at all. I was to the USA a few times and planning to be there in future, and I have many friends there. However I'm really against the US foreign politics. In a same way as I love Russians, but don't like and was never supporting Putin and his rotten and corrupted government.Obey the CowgodComment
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I did. Perhaps now you will answer to my questions? The UK guy who also loved to ask questions was not able to answer to mine and disappear
Hope you are a person of a different type.
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The degree of danger with a country having nuclear capability is relative to the value those countries have for human life.
I am sure it has happened in the US, but nothing pops out recently where people have strapped bombs to their body and walked into a crowded nightclub.You might not be as anonymous as you think you are.Comment
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You ask a ton of questions that aren't really questions man. But sure, I'll play along while things are on the stove.I did. Perhaps now you will answer to my questions? The UK guy who also loved to ask questions was not able to answer to mine and disappear Hope you are a person of a different type.
Look it up, being able to say whatever you want. For example, stand in front of your parlament or whatever it's called with a big fat sign saying: Putin is corrupt. Would that fly in Russia? I think not.Depends on what exactly you understand on "freedom of speech"? Enlighten me, please.
No. I'm not.Вodyguards to move around in Moscow after dark. LOL ))) It's a joke, right?
Denmark dude. You said there's something rotten in the state of Denmark. Or were you just using the expression by coincidence?Which one? I've been to many counties because I love to traveling.
I don't know if the rest you are asking about are really questions, you are pretty confusing. Do you smoke weed or something? Cause I feel like I'm arguing with someone who doesn't know what the fuck is up or down in the world. No offence man, but you really need a reality check or something. But then again, you think you live in a democracy
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off topic, but hasnt mother russia invaded more countries then any other existing nation and killed more of its own "citizens" then every country aside from china.
this is a "great" country, remember that.Comment
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Ok, I got it. Will make sure to not answer to your questions too.
Who cares what do you think? Everybody can do that w/o any problems (course if they are acting w/o aggression). As I told many times, I do not support Putin and consider his regime illegitimate and authoritarian, but I have to admit that everything you said above is a pure bullshit. Do you know how to use Goggle? No? Here is a link for you: http://www.google.com/search?q=демон...w=1280&bih=834. Do you REALLY believe that 100'000 of these people were sent to gulag for saying "Putin is thief"? You, Western European guys, are totally brainwashed then.
Let me know if pics are not enough for you and I'll give you the links to a ton anti-Putin videos.
Seems you never been to Russian at all, or you the sort of people that afraid of their own shadow.
It was just a quote from William Shakespeare, but seems the old man was right about your country (no offense please) and I've just accidentally hit the mark.Last edited by just a punk; 01-31-2013, 09:14 AM.Obey the CowgodComment
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After Syria strikes Israel in response, I guess we'll hear Harper, Obama, Cameron and the other usual suspects say that "Syria has the right to defend itself"Last edited by LA Crew; 01-31-2013, 09:15 AM.
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I don't see your point at all.
Pakistan has the bomb. So does India. Still hasn't settled the Kashmir issue.
China has the bomb. Has it changed how we deal with China at all?
North Korea might have the bomb? Has anything changed on the Korean peninsula in the past fifty years? Nope.
If Libya and Syria had the bomb, would it have changed how we dealt with them? Not really, because we really haven't dealt with them at all. If they had nukes would have it changed anything? Would Gaddafi still be in power? No, because it was his own citizens that removed him. Syria? They've been a civil war for what, two years now? Unless he plans on nuking his own country, nothing would have changed.
Then you mention Afghanistan. Assuming 9/11 still took place, what would have changed? The US would have still invaded. We invaded with small forces, too small for Afghanistan to fire off nukes (are they going to launch a nuke against 200 troops on their own land?). Afghanistan couldn't / wouldn't lunch nukes on the US because the US would have nuked the shit out of Afghanistan.
So nothing has changed at all. Fucking North Korea has the bomb, threatens South Korea and the US every day and.... Nothing at all has changed with the way we handle North Korea at all.Herschel Savage
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Exactly. And they will NEVER do it. W/o nukes it's already been settled with 100'000's of deaths.
No foreign invasions since that times.
No foreign invasions since that times.
Yes of course. There would not be foreign invasions.
9/11 was organized (at least officially) by the CIA agent Ben Laden and done by a few Saudi guys. I have no idea why Afghanistan was mentioned. And yes, the USA would NEVER invade Afghanistan or Iraq if those countries had nukes.
Its' very strange that you can't see these simple facts.Last edited by just a punk; 01-31-2013, 09:33 AM.Obey the CowgodComment
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