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thought you meant going postal
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so are you motivated yet?
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thats a general problem i have |
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"I'll work out once I add 2 more galleries to this site." ... 10 more galleries, couple Skype conversations later... still no workout. :1orglaugh |
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AMEN to THIS :) Period ! |
also, not sure who all here has attempted to calculate cals in v cals out while doing serious cardio but that shit is next to impossible.
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So what people are saying is, that if I purchase P90X and force my gf to do it - she'll loose the 30 pounds she's gained from eating my cooking over the last two years.
I'm fucking game, since I also for some reason voulenteered for the local firebrigade I could probably use to regain some muscle mass.. Someone with a UK amazon aff link hit me up :thumbsup |
I would say, no matter what package it's in (px90, insane etc. etc.), the same as putting together one's diet to be healthy and tasty at the same time, one also needs to find exercise that suits and works for them (it's easier to keep the discipline if one enjoys working out).
In my top workout regime it was: 4 - 6 times a week gym (4 times while if beeing out of the weekend, 6 times if having a weekend for myself) Out of that: 2 - 3 x weights, in general lower weights with 3 - 4 series x 15 - 20 repetitions per each segment Always enjoyed lifting weights since I did a lot of that back in the day. 2 - 3x cardio at the start the goal was to burn 400 calories a session (cca 40 min on treadmill) - first month then scaling it up to 500 (cca 50 min or higher intensity) - second month and 600 calories (usually 55 min with higher intensity) per session - third month Keeping my pulse during each session at cca 140 / min which is approx 70 pct. of the maximum Always enjoyed the feeling after I hit the goal on the counter. That all while eating five times a day with approx, 30 g of proteine, twice as much carbs (not inluding the last meal) and a total of cca 50 g fat a day, which is not so hard to achieve if one ignores fastfood or eating out more often than once in a while. In 90 days went from 83 kg to cca 81,5 kg (only lost about three pounds) while losing about 12 cm in waist (close to 5 inches) and looking totally different. Actually, this works very well if one works self employed mainly by the PC and can prepair his own meals (an exact contradiction to the reasoning what almost everyone else out of shape uses). Reminds me I should start to get back in shape again. |
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I started out by going to the gym, after 3 months and losing 20lbs I fixed my diet and upped my training, 1 year on I eat healthy and work out hard. It becomes a lifestyle, most people just need to get over that first month of training and the rest falls into place. |
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Hey - did you get your luggage back?
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no "insanity" workout needed, there's no magic workout plan. eat right, don't eat too much and go to the gym.
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cardio is never enough and if you do too much of it you just end up burning protein and muscle anyway.. I'm lean as shit and hardly do any cardio at all--with a super slow metabolism.
getting a handle on your carb consumption is an absolute must though. i was tubby for years no matter how much i worked out until i caught on to that one.. |
Back before I tore my rotator cuff years ago I was in the gym 4 - 5 days a week (about 1 hour or so a day), eating 5 - 6 healthy meals a day, and had a trainer who knew how to attack every muscle a different way and push me. My gains were incredible. So were my farts from protein intake. No real system, just diet, free weights, a hard ass trainer, and motivation.
After the injury that was more or less the end of any real fitness for me. Since then it has been on again off again and I never really hit it hard because of the old injury (should have had surgery to fix it) and now a few new ones due to a motorbike accident. *sigh* Point is, a solid diet and hitting the gym with someone who knows how to do it right will work just fine. But if you don't know how to train properly, while it is better than nothing, you won't get the speedy results you're looking for. It is worth getting a trainer to help you, and make sure you choose one who is in the sort of shape you want to be in. Too many tubs of shit pretending to be trainers these days. |
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There's so many small things you can start with and they all add up.
After a few weeks a new habit forms. Think small steps and long term! |
This workout has the perfect name ' insane'. I do speed-fitness 2 times / week - 20 minutes - works for me.
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It's very very simple Do x amount every day Eat x amount every day Weigh yourself every morning Which direction is your body weight headinog? Very basic stuff. The same very basic stuff that millions and millions of people have mastered to control their body weight. :) Besides, it's very easy to estimate and heart rate monitors work quite well. |
And it's worth pointing out with respect to the "calories in vs calories out" argument that every single fitness professional, fitness model and body builder who routinely lowers their body fat % are doing the exact same thing. There is no bizarre discussion of "it's nearly impossible...". There is only understanding and doing. Take that discussion to any fitness and bodybuilding forum and see how far it gets :)
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hardly an excuse. so tell me- how many cals did i burn doing my 45 min cardio session this morning? if I lose 2 pounds then do the same session, how many cals will i burn? 155 lbs 6' 9% bf |
oh and re: excuses, i've done p90x 8 times in the last 3 years, i typically do a 90 day cycles, then chill for a couple months, then do a 90 day session.
so i'm way past making excuses. i'm talking from experience and getting my bf down from 23% to as low as 6%. |
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My point was that its not "nearly impossible". Its the first step and most fundamental part of the process that all serious people have to go through and dial in as a starting point. Besides, I am talking about weight loss and burning fat and in that context. It takes time to dial it in. It takes time to dial it in for every human being on the planet that struggles with weight loss. Almost every piece of cardio equipment in any gym on the western world allows you to enter your height, weight, measures distance/intensity and gives you fairly decent idea of where you're at in terms of calories burned. It's not some eternal secret kept by a little old man on a mountain top in the Himalayas :). To pre-empt the next point which typically follows as part of the defensive behavior I deal with daily,.... to take that info provided by that equipment/body fat tester/heart rate monitor and then argue its not 100% accurate is totally moot.. as it's purpose is to provide a consistent baseline to work from. |
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Your experience is just that... your personal experience with respect to you and what YOU did. |
i see now, i think the difference here is you are talking general terms, as you mention, getting a "fairly decent idea" of what's what. that's not really the cals in = cals out paradigm, which means counting cals and counting cals is a nightmare that is next to impossible to sort out once serious cardio is introduced. hell, it's hard enough counting cals in by themselves.
and for many people, as i am sure you know, 100 cals can make a difference. worse, 100 cals of fruit v. 100 cals of gravy makes a huge difference for some people, like me. does 100 cals matter if you have 40% bf, no, but as that % drops, it matters more and more, that's my experience and those i exercise with as well. |
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you on the other hand, are in the other 1%, probably trying to push your body to the limits, staying lean while building muscle at the same time... so yea, for you it is a bit tricky to figure out how much cardio you need to do, how many calories, how many grams of protein you need to consume per day, etc... |
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Yeah, sorry. I mean i have to deal with these questions daily. So I find myself falling into "oh... not this shit again", responses. My bad. "knowing how many calories you eat" - easy to know. And 'how many calories did I burn" - i.e. figuring out your bmr, estimating what you are burning per cardio/workout/exercise session etc... is about a guestimation and then being consistent and seeing where the needle on the scale is moving and adjusting accordingly. It feels like you think its harder than it is. Any heart rate monitor is going to give you a fairly accurate idea of what you're burning through exercises. Quote:
Also, this might be where we are diverging a little in our perspectives. What type of calories you are eating is 100% irrelevant as someone at 35% bodyfat, trying to get to 15%. First and foremost, they have to get caloric intake under control. People use "good for me/bad for me" to rationalize their eating habits vs simply counting calories and being 100% certain. I have a few people that every 3-4-5 weeks will come back to me with the exact same arguments. "i'm doing everything right and my weight is staying the same". Then i start probing, ... "ok, lets look at myfitnesspal and see your food logs". Response is always the same "uhm... well... uhm... haven't been logging my food". Then i ask "how have you been eating" and the funniest thing happens EVERY SINGLE TIME... a hesitation, they look away briefly and say "uhm... i've been doing good". Then I probe more and of course, all the sweets, dinners out etc are slowly admitted to. Then i ask "why are you certain you are doing everything right, when you have no idea if the last meal you ate was 300 calories or 500 calories or 600 calories" and on it goes. Nothing matters for people who are struggling until they get their daily caloric intake dialed in and 100% under control. As ones body fat decreases and weight loss is getting a little difficult, as you hit plateaus etc, then its fine to start talking about types of calories, controlling ratios of carbs/proteins/fats, increasing/decreasing fat intake, types of carbs etc etc etc. Until that point and as a general rule those things are irrelevant (when it comes to overweight people losing weight). Getting from 12% to 6% is infinitely harder than getting from 45% to 25% (the vast majority of Americans). For most people, their body starts fighting back. So i can accept that yeah, you have to start playing with these things, types of calories etc when you start getting down to 10% range and are trying to get down to 6% or whatever or prepare for a show, modeling gig, bodybuilding contest etc. But for 99% of people that are overweight and struggling, its irrelevant to look at those things or go into that level of detail. This is more what I am saying. Operating within the norms, its calories in vs calories out and the type of calories makes no difference. http://www.cnn.com/2010/HEALTH/11/08...sor/index.html |
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yes, well, kinda, i had badly broken foot from a motorcycle accident years ago that was not set properly and has been grinding around all this time, as a result of my exercising, it finally shattered, i didn't pay much attention to it and the bone became infected, docs had to remove ~12% of my foot. i have a pic if you want to see. Quote:
i see what you are saying. myfitnesspal kicks ass! and is super easy to use. |
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and i use myfitnesspal too - used it already the first time 2 years ago when i lost almost 40 lbs |
The only goal I never met (that I wanted) was breaking 2 minutes in the half mile, got within a few seconds. 28, still have time, after 40 the chances are fairly slim however.
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