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  • Killswitch
    👏 REVOLUTIONARY 👏
    • Oct 2012
    • 2566

    #166
    Originally posted by BFT3K
    And you pay models to produce what content for what sites, again?

    Oh yeah, none of course - just another leach, crying about not being able to monetize what you never produced to begin with.

    I feel your pain man.
    Clearly you're upset that your content is being stolen by scumbags, but going around and ruining legitimate webmasters businesses because of a few bad apples is detrimental to fixing any problems, and it's just gonna blow up in your face.

    Judging by the looks of your sites, and traffic rankings, you don't have any affiliates, or at least any that send traffic.... Otherwise your site would have an alexa rank lower than 2.5 million... Shit even a site I have that gets literally a handful of visitors a day, is more than cutting your rank in half...

    You have no clue what goes into running any websites as an affiliate, you spam your "content" on GFY for the surfers of the board to visit and hopefully sign up.... I assume that the bulk of your revenue is based on selling your "content" to small time companies at a low rate... You've never dealt with an affiliate who supplements his traffic that doesn't convert by pulling out a credit card and buying a membership, by using advertising networks that pay via CPM, CPC, or CPA....

    So until you have something to show that actually makes a difference or matters in this argument, how about you shut your trap, and let the people who do know what's going on and how to handle things talk.

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    • Gator
      Confirmed User
      • Feb 2002
      • 1119

      #167
      Originally posted by Colmike7
      The people using ad blockers are the same assholes who use scripts and/or manually strip out affiliate IDs when they buy stuff for no reason.. Both are stealing
      How is using ad blockers stealing?

      That is like saying skipping commercials on your DVR is stealing.

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      • Gator
        Confirmed User
        • Feb 2002
        • 1119

        #168
        Originally posted by woj
        If some site has excessive advertising, maybe just don't visit that site?

        Lets say for example, I run a night club and charge $20 cover charge to enter, if you don't like that, you go to a different night club, no? or do you think it's ok to sneak through the back door, because the cover charge is "excessive"?

        advertising, excessive or not, is a revenue stream for the website owner... if you are disabling advertising, you are consuming content without paying full price for it, in effect fucking over the website owner...
        First question, yes.

        Second question, go to a different night club, yes.

        Third question, no.

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        • AdultPornMasta
          Confirmed User
          • May 2012
          • 1506

          #169
          Originally posted by BFT3K
          Bye bye popunders (and all advertising)...

          http://safariadblock.com/

          Fucking Awesome!
          The tubes are not the problem. Stolen content is the problem and there are indeed ways to to deal with those sites outside of fruitless DMCA complaints that for the most part don't get anyone's attention.

          "The world is full of obvious things which nobody by any chance ever observes."

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          • Colmike9
            (>^_^)b
            • Dec 2011
            • 7230

            #170
            Originally posted by Gator
            How is using ad blockers stealing?

            That is like saying skipping commercials on your DVR is stealing.
            Join the BEST cam affiliate program on the internet!
            I've referred over $1.7mil in spending this past year, you should join in.
            I make a lot more money in the medical field in a lab now, fuck you guys. Don't ask me to come back, but do join Chaturbate in my sig, it still makes bank without me touching shit for years..

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            • BFT3K
              Too lazy to set a custom title
              • Dec 2005
              • 10764

              #171
              Originally posted by Killswitch
              Clearly you're upset that your content is being stolen by scumbags, but going around and ruining legitimate webmasters businesses because of a few bad apples is detrimental to fixing any problems, and it's just gonna blow up in your face.

              Judging by the looks of your sites, and traffic rankings, you don't have any affiliates, or at least any that send traffic.... Otherwise your site would have an alexa rank lower than 2.5 million... Shit even a site I have that gets literally a handful of visitors a day, is more than cutting your rank in half...

              You have no clue what goes into running any websites as an affiliate, you spam your "content" on GFY for the surfers of the board to visit and hopefully sign up.... I assume that the bulk of your revenue is based on selling your "content" to small time companies at a low rate... You've never dealt with an affiliate who supplements his traffic that doesn't convert by pulling out a credit card and buying a membership, by using advertising networks that pay via CPM, CPC, or CPA....

              So until you have something to show that actually makes a difference or matters in this argument, how about you shut your trap, and let the people who do know what's going on and how to handle things talk.
              So your answer is no then - you do NOT produce any content whatsoever.

              That's what I assumed to begin with.

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              • Gator
                Confirmed User
                • Feb 2002
                • 1119

                #172
                Originally posted by Colmike7
                Lame-oooooo!

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                • Gator
                  Confirmed User
                  • Feb 2002
                  • 1119

                  #173
                  Originally posted by AdultPornMasta
                  The tubes are not the problem. Stolen content is the problem and there are indeed ways to to deal with those sites outside of fruitless DMCA complaints that for the most part don't get anyone's attention.

                  My 2 cents is tubes are a problem because they are safe harbors for so much of that stolen content.

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                  • notinmybackyard
                    Confirmed User
                    • Sep 2012
                    • 3230

                    #174
                    Originally posted by BFT3K
                    So your answer is no then - you do NOT produce any content whatsoever.
                    All the problems always come back to having let the punters in to the industry. If they do not produce, fuck or know somoneone that wants to get fucked.... Perhaps they are not a punter but they are also not worth effort of arguing with.

                    Let you in on a secret;
                    A major part of any business is working with people or entities that share common interests or goals. Keeping this in your mind, you should know that there has always been relationships of one sort or another between police, churches, gouvernements and even also... the porn industry.

                    Therefore it would appear to me that perhaps the American Family Association shares many common interests and goals with today's porn producer.
                    officially retired as of March 01 2018 but still fucking around and getting into shit.

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                    • travs
                      Confirmed User
                      • Jul 2003
                      • 1631

                      #175
                      Originally posted by seeandsee
                      apple can suck my iASS
                      now this cracked me up

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                      • BFT3K
                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                        • Dec 2005
                        • 10764

                        #176
                        An angry tube...

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                        • Zeiss
                          Confirmed User
                          • May 2012
                          • 5189

                          #177
                          Originally posted by BFT3K
                          An angry tube...



                          Adult Webmasters Guides

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                          • Creatine
                            Confirmed User
                            • Apr 2013
                            • 1060

                            #178
                            Adblock is terrible and this is a terrible idea.
                            You are stealing bandwidth by using adblock.

                            Either way good luck getting the millions of users that use pornhub to use adblock. A single user isn't going to make a difference. And if it did they'd install adblock protection.


                            I actually just installed and adblock redirection script. It redirects users with adblock to a page that shows my hosting bill and the page has a "purchase premium to remove ads" button.

                            I think this could actually boost sales for me. It'll show people running the website is not cheap and they'll consider purchasing premium. If not I don't need users blocking ads on my website. All they'd be doing is getting free content and taking my bandwidth and server resources.
                            Last edited by Creatine; 06-03-2013, 08:36 AM.

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                            • notauniquename
                              Registered User
                              • Oct 2011
                              • 98

                              #179
                              Adapt or change your model. People with ad blockers are not stealing. They also didn't approve of the pop under on their PC. But shit happens. Technology happens. The value of things change.

                              I used to pay $20 fora CD for 2 good songs. Looking back that was total bullshit. The music industry was stealing from me. But I agreed to it. Shit is better now for the consumer.

                              Music has changed and so will TV because of DVRs.

                              I thought of an easy way to fix people not seeing ads. It took me two seconds to think of it.

                              Instead of a commerial during Conan. Conan will need to do the ad himself right in the middle of his show when u least expect it.

                              "Ha ha that was funny Andy, now let me show you Bounty the quicker picker upper"

                              Just like they do in podcasts.

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                              • mardigras
                                Bon temps!
                                • Feb 2003
                                • 14194

                                #180
                                Originally posted by notauniquename
                                I thought of an easy way to fix people not seeing ads. It took me two seconds to think of it.

                                Instead of a commerial during Conan. Conan will need to do the ad himself right in the middle of his show when u least expect it.

                                "Ha ha that was funny Andy, now let me show you Bounty the quicker picker upper"

                                Just like they do in podcasts.
                                That used to be pretty common on TV, here's one of my favorite examples of it:

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