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  • XSAXS
    Confirmed User
    • Nov 2004
    • 652

    #1

    What's a site REALLY worth?

    So I'm fucking around thinking about the future of the porn biz and somehow landed here (Roald, I'm a fan):

    http://www.worthofweb.com/website-value/freeones.com
    Daily Visits: 864,819
    Daily Pageviews: 3,978,168
    Daily Revenue: $5,967
    Monthly Visits: 25,944,573
    Monthly Pageviews: 119,345,038
    Monthly Revenue: $179,010
    Yearly Visits: 311,334,881
    Yearly Pageviews: 1,432,140,451
    Annual Earnings: $2,148,120
    Estimated website net worth: $20,342,583


    Interesting. So I proceeded to here:

    http://www.worthofweb.com/website-value/thehun.net
    Daily Visits: 204,287
    Daily Pageviews: 939,719
    Daily Revenue: $1,410
    Monthly Visits: 6,128,601
    Monthly Pageviews: 28,191,563
    Monthly Revenue: $42,300
    Yearly Visits: 73,543,208
    Yearly Pageviews: 338,298,758
    Annual Earnings: $507,600
    Estimated website net worth: $4,027,194


    Then here:

    http://www.worthofweb.com/website-value/sex.com
    Daily Visits: 614,109
    Daily Pageviews: 2,824,902
    Daily Revenue: $4,237
    Monthly Visits: 18,423,276
    Monthly Pageviews: 84,747,072
    Monthly Revenue: $127,110
    Yearly Visits: 221,079,317
    Yearly Pageviews: 1,016,964,860
    Annual Earnings: $1,525,320
    Estimated website net worth: $13,555,349


    Then this:

    http://www.worthofweb.com/website-value/myfreecams.com
    Daily Visits: 1,441,834
    Daily Pageviews: 6,632,436
    Daily Revenue: $9,949
    Monthly Visits: 43,255,019
    Monthly Pageviews: 198,973,087
    Monthly Revenue: $298,470
    Yearly Visits: 519,060,226
    Yearly Pageviews: 2,387,677,042
    Annual Earnings: $3,581,640
    Estimated website net worth: $34,954,929


    Finally, here:

    http://www.worthofweb.com/website-value/porntack.com
    Daily Visits: 135,312
    Daily Pageviews: 622,434
    Daily Revenue: $934
    Monthly Visits: 4,059,350
    Monthly Pageviews: 18,673,009
    Monthly Revenue: $28,020
    Yearly Visits: 48,712,197
    Yearly Pageviews: 224,076,107
    Annual Earnings: $336,240
    Estimated website net worth: $1,674,385


    Discuss...

    Is Freeones worth 5x TheHun? Is Porntack possibly worth 43% of TheHun after being in business only 6 or 7 months?
  • geedub
    Confirmed User
    • Jun 2005
    • 3489

    #2
    Considering I put in some of my best money making domains and their calculations are WAY off, I would same those numbers are horribly wrong.
    Reliable web host that actually cares, tell em geedub sent ya. Vacares

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    • Penny24Seven
      So Fucking What
      • Jun 2007
      • 6287

      #3
      the site you are getting that info from is not even close on the sites I own and have entered
      Our site is coming soon. It will be one of the best ever! I know so. Brian and Penny

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      • Roald
        SecretFriends.com
        • May 2001
        • 27910

        #4
        I love these sites!!!

        PS all the numbers are way too low. Just sayin ;)


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        • CaptainWolfy
          Playa
          • Dec 2005
          • 8439

          #5
          are u for real!? omfg.. :S

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          • XSAXS
            Confirmed User
            • Nov 2004
            • 652

            #6
            I'm not disagreeing with either of you at all. But all the sites in my OP (except MyFreeCams) are traffic sites -- not subscription sites.

            For example, iFriends.net comes back at only $692 daily and $1.1Million total value. But that is ridiculously low. iFriends isn't what it once was, but those numbers are insanely off.
            http://www.worthofweb.com/website-value/ifriends.net

            SO... WorthOfWeb's algorithm/estimation has to be based almost solely on traffic values -- not subscription values.

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            • georgeyw
              58008 53773
              • Jul 2005
              • 9865

              #7
              Anyone who actually uses those types of sites is a total complete and utter retard.

              It also goes without saying that anyone who has to ask....
              TripleXPrint on Megan Fox
              "I would STILL suck her pussy until her face caved in. And then blow her up and do it again!"

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              • ottopottomouse
                She is ugly, bad luck.
                • Jan 2010
                • 13177

                #8
                Originally posted by XSAXS
                SO... WorthOfWeb's algorithm/estimation has to be based almost solely on traffic values -- not subscription values.
                Wasn't that blindingly obvious or did you not even look at the results you posted other than the total?
                ↑ see post ↑
                13101

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                • XSAXS
                  Confirmed User
                  • Nov 2004
                  • 652

                  #9
                  Originally posted by ottopottomouse
                  Wasn't that blindingly obvious or did you not even look at the results you posted other than the total?
                  Yes it was blindingly obvious. But I was responding to the previous guys who were saying the numbers were way off. Based on their arguments, THEY were only looking at their own value numbers for their own sites and were not taking into account the traffic numbers -- not me. Read the fucking thread next time, douche.

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                  • ottopottomouse
                    She is ugly, bad luck.
                    • Jan 2010
                    • 13177

                    #10
                    If I hadn't read the thread I wouldn't have been able to pick out a bit of your post to quote, halfwit.
                    ↑ see post ↑
                    13101

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                    • bean-aid
                      So Fucking Banned
                      • Jun 2011
                      • 16493

                      #11
                      The multiplying factor is .69cents X daily visits. It is a 5th grade calculation at best to determine a sites worth per that site. It is absolutely 100% bullshit and should never, ever, be looked at again. /thread

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                      • XSAXS
                        Confirmed User
                        • Nov 2004
                        • 652

                        #12
                        Originally posted by georgeyw
                        Anyone who actually uses those types of sites is a total complete and utter retard.

                        It also goes without saying that anyone who has to ask....
                        I would strongly argue to the contrary. While the vast majority of these kinds of sites are supremely shitty, the one referenced above is better than most. They use comparative analytics based on traffic data, pageviews, etc. Is the data perfect? No. Are the conclusions perfect? No. But does it provide a quantifiable frame of reference in some cases -- when better, more accurate data is unavailable? Of course it does.

                        Is Alexa perfect? No way. Is it fairly useful from time to time? Of course it is.

                        So really... who is the retard?
                        Last edited by XSAXS; 01-23-2013, 12:32 PM.

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                        • Roald
                          SecretFriends.com
                          • May 2001
                          • 27910

                          #13
                          More fun numbers

                          http://www.worthofweb.com/website-value/pornhub.com
                          http://www.worthofweb.com/website-value/brazzers.com

                          ;))


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                          • Coup
                            🚨 PBBC International 🚨
                            • Apr 2010
                            • 9931

                            #14
                            Did anyone post tree fiddy yet

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                            • Adraco
                              Confirmed User
                              • May 2009
                              • 3745

                              #15
                              All those sites have a base algorithm saying something similar to
                              1 to 2 in 100 visitors will click a banner
                              each click is worth 1 cent (or whatever)
                              then takes estimated visitor numbers, divide by 100 and multiply by the amount per click

                              thereby they get an estimated daily revenue based on "normal" advertising. It is usually those numbers that are then presented.
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                              • PR_Phil
                                Confirmed User
                                • Apr 2003
                                • 1960

                                #16
                                Originally posted by XSAXS
                                I would strongly argue to the contrary. While the vast majority of these kinds of sites are supremely shitty, the one referenced above is better than most. They use comparative analytics based on traffic data, pageviews, etc. Is the data perfect? No. Are the conclusions perfect? No. But does it provide a quantifiable frame of reference in some cases -- when better, more accurate data is unavailable? Of course it does.

                                Is Alexa perfect? No way. Is it fairly useful from time to time? Of course it is.

                                So really... who is the retard?
                                I can see the site uses an algorithm based on impressions per user and total visits to estimate daily earnings and then comes up with a valuation that is largely based on the earnings with some adjustment for the quality of the traffic, or for the metrics the traffic provides. However it fails to take anything else into account. In essence it appears to assume that the only method of monetization for a website is CPM advertising, which is certainly not true.

                                so, just looking at Roalds last post, it sees Pornhub as a Juggernaut worth hundreds of millions because it has a huge amount of traffic and assumes that all sites make a similar CPM when we all know that CPM on adult traffic is much lower in adult than in mainstream, as instead of holding a credit card, the consumer is holding at least 1 penis, and needs the other hand to search for DP vids. Conversely it sees the relatively low amount of traffic that a site like Brazzers.com has with respect to Pornhub and assumes the value is again derived from that amount of traffic, when the revenue is mainly derived from a tiny portion of that traffic which becomes a member. In this case, the actual value is most likely quite low.

                                if we skip the reality that different businesses use vastly different monetization models, and assume that it is true that everyone just throws their site in a CPM network and lets those guys do all the selling, and we make the traffic all of equal value, we still miss many pieces of information that are equally important in certain situations. For example the intrinsic value in the name itself. 4 years ago pizza.com sold for $2.6 Million, if it were to sell now, it might sell for a fraction of that, but even it the revenue of the site was $0 and the total daily visits was 0, the domain name itself will still command for more than the $38,000 that worth of web claims it is worth.

                                http://www.worthofweb.com/website-value/pizza.com

                                now, if we forget about traffic, forget about sales, forget about the coolness of a name, there are still other issues, for example, the site says that california.com is worth about $6000, but I highly doubt the state/owner would sell it to me so I could put a Hooker Directory on it for that price.

                                anyways, nice to look at the numbers and pretend sites are worth billions.

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                                • Some Guy
                                  Affordable Content!
                                  • Dec 2001
                                  • 1750

                                  #17
                                  gfy.com

                                  WOW Score for gfy.com : 4.96 out of 5

                                  Daily Visits: 325,771
                                  Daily Pageviews: 1,498,548
                                  Daily Revenue: $ 2,248

                                  Monthly Visits: 9,773,140
                                  Monthly Pageviews: 44,956,444
                                  Monthly Revenue: $ 67,440

                                  Yearly Visits: 117,277,679
                                  Yearly Pageviews: 539,477,324
                                  Annual Earnings: $ 809,280

                                  Estimated website net worth: $ 6,649,305

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                                  • Denny
                                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                                    • Feb 2005
                                    • 17393

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by georgeyw
                                    Anyone who actually uses those types of sites is a total complete and utter retard.

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                                    • Denny
                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                      • Feb 2005
                                      • 17393

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by Some Guy
                                      gfy.com

                                      WOW Score for gfy.com : 4.96 out of 5

                                      Daily Visits: 325,771
                                      Daily Pageviews: 1,498,548
                                      Daily Revenue: $ 2,248

                                      Monthly Visits: 9,773,140
                                      Monthly Pageviews: 44,956,444
                                      Monthly Revenue: $ 67,440

                                      Yearly Visits: 117,277,679
                                      Yearly Pageviews: 539,477,324
                                      Annual Earnings: $ 809,280

                                      Estimated website net worth: $ 6,649,305

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                                      • tfs
                                        Confirmed User
                                        • Dec 2005
                                        • 624

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by Roald
                                        I love these sites!!!

                                        PS all the numbers are way too low. Just sayin ;)
                                        You bastard! And I mean that in a good way. Just a bastard, is all...

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                                        • itto
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • Jul 2006
                                          • 1363

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by PR_Phil
                                          (...) as instead of holding a credit card, the consumer is holding at least 1 penis, (...)
                                          that just made my day!





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                                          • MilaMilan Investments
                                            Registered User
                                            • Jan 2013
                                            • 12

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by Roald
                                            I love these sites!!!

                                            PS all the numbers are way too low. Just sayin ;)
                                            so right ...I very much doubt Leo would sell for $ 35 million unless its multiplied a considerable amount of times ....
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                                            • iSpyCams
                                              Amateur Gynecologist
                                              • May 2009
                                              • 4436

                                              #23
                                              A business, online or not, is worth whatever someone will pay for it. It doesn't matter how much your business is worth if no one is ever going to buy it from you.
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