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  • iSpyCams
    Amateur Gynecologist
    • May 2009
    • 4436

    #1

    Is this IP range fraud or not?

    I've got join page activity from the following IP range. Many of these (all of them) are listed as confirmed proxies at whatismyipaddress.com A few are also reported spam sources.

    However, they seem to be AT&T cell phone towers for mobile browsing, and its possible the proxy designation comes from that. What do you guys think? - Here are the IP's

    198.228.200.144
    198.228.200.147
    198.228.200.147
    198.228.200.148
    198.228.200.150
    198.228.200.156
    198.228.200.157
    198.228.201.144
    198.228.201.148
    198.228.201.148
    198.228.201.150
    198.228.201.153
    198.228.201.153
    198.228.201.154
    198.228.201.159
    198.228.217.150
    198.228.217.152
    198.228.217.154
    198.228.217.155
    198.228.217.157
    198.228.217.159
    198.228.217.160
    198.228.228.159
    198.228.228.169
    198.228.228.175
    198.228.228.176
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  • Struggle4Bucks
    Sieg Hi!
    • May 2011
    • 3615

    #2
    Originally posted by pompousjohn
    I've got join page activity from the following IP range. Many of these (all of them) are listed as confirmed proxies at whatismyipaddress.com A few are also reported spam sources.

    However, they seem to be AT&T cell phone towers for mobile browsing, and its possible the proxy designation comes from that. What do you guys think? - Here are the IP's

    198.228.200.144
    198.228.200.147
    198.228.200.147
    198.228.200.148
    198.228.200.150
    198.228.200.156
    198.228.200.157
    198.228.201.144
    198.228.201.148
    198.228.201.148
    198.228.201.150
    198.228.201.153
    198.228.201.153
    198.228.201.154
    198.228.201.159
    198.228.217.150
    198.228.217.152
    198.228.217.154
    198.228.217.155
    198.228.217.157
    198.228.217.159
    198.228.217.160
    198.228.228.159
    198.228.228.169
    198.228.228.175
    198.228.228.176
    Fraud? nah... probably someone checking your site on his mobile trying to sign up while driving around in his car... That would explain the different ip's... since he's moving he constantly is closer to another cellphone tower.
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    • iSpyCams
      Amateur Gynecologist
      • May 2009
      • 4436

      #3
      Originally posted by Struggle4Bucks
      Fraud? nah... probably someone checking your site on his mobile trying to sign up while driving around in his car... That would explain the different ip's... since he's moving he constantly is closer to another cellphone tower.
      Each ip is a unique join - its not the same guy for sure. I just don't know if they are open proxies being controlled by carders.
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      • Supz
        Arthur Flegenheimer
        • Jul 2006
        • 11057

        #4
        whois.arin.net

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        • Struggle4Bucks
          Sieg Hi!
          • May 2011
          • 3615

          #5
          Originally posted by pompousjohn
          Each ip is a unique join - its not the same guy for sure. I just don't know if they are open proxies being controlled by carders.
          I was kidding...

          but ok...

          What is the time range between these ip's actions?
          All sign ups or just join form hits without joins?
          Do you have a log report from your site and
          can you see these ip's there showing strange behaviour?
          Half troll half amazing!

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          • iSpyCams
            Amateur Gynecologist
            • May 2009
            • 4436

            #6
            Originally posted by Struggle4Bucks
            I was kidding...

            but ok...

            What is the time range between these ip's actions?
            All sign ups or just join form hits without joins?
            Do you have a log report from your site and
            can you see these ip's there showing strange behaviour?
            Everything is perfectly normal except that these IP's are listed as proxies. Each entry in the list is a paid signup over a 30 day period. I exported to excel, sorted by IP and these caught my attention because there are a few duplicates. It's not common for more than one customer to sign up[ on the same IP, but it happens. All of them are owned by AT&T wireless and I believe they are cell phone towers.
            - As soon as I think up a good sig it's going here.

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            • fris
              Too lazy to set a custom title
              • Aug 2002
              • 55679

              #7
              are they trying to brute force?
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              • iSpyCams
                Amateur Gynecologist
                • May 2009
                • 4436

                #8
                Originally posted by fris
                are they trying to brute force?
                Nope. I am going to stop worrying about it and just watch the CB's. People use mobiles more now I guess.
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                • ChatCash_Rob
                  Confirmed User
                  • Apr 2004
                  • 749

                  #9
                  Yeah, whatismyipaddress.com lists a lot of the mobile i.p.'s as proxies...pain in the ass. Everyone with a blackberry seems to get routed through Kansas.
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                  • iSpyCams
                    Amateur Gynecologist
                    • May 2009
                    • 4436

                    #10
                    Originally posted by ChatCash_Rob
                    Yeah, whatismyipaddress.com lists a lot of the mobile i.p.'s as proxies...pain in the ass. Everyone with a blackberry seems to get routed through Kansas.
                    Yes I freaked out a few years back when I logged into Gmail and noticed that someone in the USA was getting into my Gmail. Turns out it was my blackberry's push email service.

                    So I realize mobile IP's can distort geoIP stuff. I guess the question is if any of these IP's available to black hats and carders. I feel like if they were I would have heard something by now, also fraud rates from mobile IP's over time does not seem significantly higher.
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                    • livexxx
                      Confirmed User
                      • May 2005
                      • 1201

                      #11
                      make sure that 127.0.0.1 is not in the list, always shady traffic from that source. I always ban those people and the 10.0.0.1 idiots and the 192.168.0.1 pervs

                      Also look at maxmind, they do a geo module, you can buy and block by name of ISP if you dont like the look of them.
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                      • ls101
                        Confirmed User
                        • Nov 2012
                        • 713

                        #12
                        In my experience some of the IP's came from AT&T are fraud most of them. If you are working on chatters then that's basically a fraud!

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                        • iSpyCams
                          Amateur Gynecologist
                          • May 2009
                          • 4436

                          #13
                          Originally posted by ls101
                          In my experience some of the IP's came from AT&T are fraud most of them. If you are working on chatters then that's basically a fraud!
                          can you elaborate? I really did not want to hear that.
                          - As soon as I think up a good sig it's going here.

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                          • lagcam
                            Confirmed User
                            • Jul 2007
                            • 2890

                            #14
                            Originally posted by pompousjohn
                            can you elaborate? I really did not want to hear that.
                            Take what that guy said with a pinch of salt. There is something sounds a little off here, but saying AT&T is nearly all fraud is ridiculous.

                            I don't like talking about these things on open forums, but if you drop me a mail to paul at my gfy user name from your site's email, I will tell you what I would be doing in a case like this. No guarantee I will be able to tell you something you don't already know, but consider it a string-less offer of help from a fellow site owner.
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                            • iSpyCams
                              Amateur Gynecologist
                              • May 2009
                              • 4436

                              #15
                              Originally posted by lagcam
                              Take what that guy said with a pinch of salt. There is something sounds a little off here, but saying AT&T is nearly all fraud is ridiculous.

                              I don't like talking about these things on open forums, but if you drop me a mail to paul at my gfy user name from your site's email, I will tell you what I would be doing in a case like this. No guarantee I will be able to tell you something you don't already know, but consider it a string-less offer of help from a fellow site owner.
                              emailing you now.
                              - As soon as I think up a good sig it's going here.

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                              • k0nr4d
                                Confirmed User
                                • Aug 2006
                                • 9231

                                #16
                                It's probably all legit mobile joins. There is no way that AT&T could give ever mobile device it's own ip address...
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                                • lagcam
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Jul 2007
                                  • 2890

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by pompousjohn
                                  emailing you now.
                                  Didn't get any email. lagcam dotcom and paul at
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                                  • iSpyCams
                                    Amateur Gynecologist
                                    • May 2009
                                    • 4436

                                    #18
                                    strange - I will review and send again
                                    - As soon as I think up a good sig it's going here.

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                                    • iSpyCams
                                      Amateur Gynecologist
                                      • May 2009
                                      • 4436

                                      #19
                                      ok emailed you again from a different account.
                                      - As soon as I think up a good sig it's going here.

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                                      • lagcam
                                        Confirmed User
                                        • Jul 2007
                                        • 2890

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by pompousjohn
                                        ok emailed you again from a different account.
                                        Still absolutely nothing. Somebody else had trouble connecting with you on another thread I believe? Try sending me a message from online support in the header of the site in my sig, or drop your email here and I will mail you.
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                                        • iSpyCams
                                          Amateur Gynecologist
                                          • May 2009
                                          • 4436

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by lagcam
                                          Still absolutely nothing. Somebody else had trouble connecting with you on another thread I believe? Try sending me a message from online support in the header of the site in my sig, or drop your email here and I will mail you.
                                          Alright try my username here @ yahoo.
                                          - As soon as I think up a good sig it's going here.

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                                          • lagcam
                                            Confirmed User
                                            • Jul 2007
                                            • 2890

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by pompousjohn
                                            Alright try my username here @ yahoo.
                                            Email sent.
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                                            • iSpyCams
                                              Amateur Gynecologist
                                              • May 2009
                                              • 4436

                                              #23
                                              got it. I kept reading your username as legcam, so that is the problem.
                                              - As soon as I think up a good sig it's going here.

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                                              • iSpyCams
                                                Amateur Gynecologist
                                                • May 2009
                                                • 4436

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by livexxx
                                                make sure that 127.0.0.1 is not in the list, always shady traffic from that source. I always ban those people and the 10.0.0.1 idiots and the 192.168.0.1 pervs

                                                Also look at maxmind, they do a geo module, you can buy and block by name of ISP if you dont like the look of them.
                                                - As soon as I think up a good sig it's going here.

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                                                • PornDiscounts-V
                                                  Confirmed User
                                                  • Oct 2003
                                                  • 5744

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by pompousjohn
                                                  got it. I kept reading your username as legcam, so that is the problem.
                                                  I think its kind of cute
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