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  • Phoenix
    BACON BACON BACON
    • Nov 2002
    • 35475

    #51
    Originally posted by Bryan G
    Have one just one person back up YOUR story and maybe people will back off. Your a sick fuck.
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    • baddog
      So Fucking Banned
      • Apr 2001
      • 107089

      #52
      Originally posted by Bryan G
      Have one just one person back up YOUR story and maybe people will back off. Your a sick fuck.
      Will I do? If I were Donny I'd demand your banning.

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      • Bryan G
        Confirmed User
        • Aug 2005
        • 8338

        #53
        Originally posted by baddog
        Will I do? If I were Donny I'd demand your banning.
        Why should I be banned? Did I make the accusations? Donnys not even in this industry and seeks to ruin it. Why you support him only "God" knows why. How's life in bed with .xxx you hyprocrite?
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        • BlackCrayon
          Too lazy to set a custom title
          • Jun 2003
          • 19634

          #54
          the story sounds like total BS. i never would of though donny was that bad but the story stinks. this drug addicted mother just comes over to confess all this to donny for what reason?
          you don't know you're wearing a leash if you sit by the peg all day..

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          • Mr Pheer
            So Fucking Banned
            • Dec 2002
            • 22083

            #55
            Originally posted by Phoenix
            not that i like donny..he creeps me out.
            but this could just be him pushing religion on people and annoying them?
            well it would certainly annoy me

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            • J.P.Morgan
              Confirmed User
              • Aug 2005
              • 3320

              #56
              em shock'd

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              • xNetworx
                So Fucking What
                • Jan 2004
                • 14445

                #57
                Originally posted by Bryan G
                Why should I be banned? Did I make the accusations? Donnys not even in this industry and seeks to ruin it. Why you support him only "God" knows why. How's life in bed with .xxx you hyprocrite?

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                • Killswitch
                  REVOLUTIONARY
                  • Oct 2012
                  • 2569

                  #58
                  Originally posted by kyro
                  apparently some people are stupid enough to trust their children with Donny.
                  Ummmmm Baddog's son is probably older than you...

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                  • JenniDahling
                    Market Penetration Specialist
                    • Jul 2005
                    • 5285

                    #59
                    Originally posted by kyro

                    (a) (1) Every person who annoys or molests any child under
                    18 years of age shall be punished by a fine not exceeding five
                    thousand dollars ($5,000), by imprisonment in a county jail not
                    exceeding one year, or by both the fine and imprisonment.
                    (2) Every person who, motivated by an unnatural or abnormal sexual
                    interest in children, engages in conduct with an adult whom he or
                    she believes to be a child under 18 years of age, which conduct, if
                    directed toward a child under 18 years of age, would be a violation
                    of this section, shall be punished by a fine not exceeding five
                    thousand dollars ($5,000), by imprisonment in a county jail for up to
                    one year, or by both that fine and imprisonment.
                    (b) Every person who violates this section after having entered,
                    without consent, an inhabited dwelling house, or trailer coach as
                    defined in Section 635 of the Vehicle Code, or the inhabited portion
                    of any other building, shall be punished by imprisonment pursuant to
                    subdivision (h) of Section 1170, or in a county jail not exceeding
                    one year, and by a fine not exceeding five thousand dollars ($5,000).
                    (c) (1) Every person who violates this section shall be punished
                    upon the second and each subsequent conviction by imprisonment
                    pursuant to subdivision (h) of Section 1170.
                    (2) Every person who violates this section after a previous felony
                    conviction under Section 261, 264.1, 269, 285, 286, 288a, 288.5, or
                    289, any of which involved a minor under 16 years of age, or a
                    previous felony conviction under this section, a conviction under
                    Section 288, or a felony conviction under Section 311.4 involving a
                    minor under 14 years of age shall be punished by imprisonment
                    pursuant to subdivision (h) of Section 1170 for two, four, or six
                    years.
                    Is it me or does this seem lenient to you?

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                    • baddog
                      So Fucking Banned
                      • Apr 2001
                      • 107089

                      #60
                      Originally posted by Killswitch
                      Ummmmm Baddog's son is probably older than you...
                      And could easily kick both their asses.

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                      • Major (Tom)
                        So Fucking Banned
                        • Nov 2003
                        • 32492

                        #61
                        wow.
                        duke ...

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                        • epitome
                          So Fucking Lame
                          • Jun 2009
                          • 12156

                          #62
                          Originally posted by JenniDahling
                          Is it me or does this seem lenient to you?
                          It's not just you. I hope they at least stack charges on people.

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                          • kyro
                            So Fucking Banned
                            • Dec 2004
                            • 783

                            #63
                            maybe i will need to attend this trial. I can bring a copy of donny's posts here to be read into court.

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                            • RocketRacoon
                              Confirmed User
                              • Oct 2006
                              • 610

                              #64
                              yikes hes toast!

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                              • baddog
                                So Fucking Banned
                                • Apr 2001
                                • 107089

                                #65
                                Originally posted by RocketRacoon
                                yikes hes toast!
                                Actually, he isn't. I've read the stuff including the letter from his attorney, they are dropping charges. The chick has a long history of being a fruitcake.

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                                • RyuLion
                                  • Mar 2003
                                  • 32369

                                  #66
                                  Originally posted by baddog
                                  Actually, he isn't. I've read the stuff including the letter from his attorney, they are dropping charges. The chick has a long history of being a fruitcake.
                                  /thread

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                                  • StinkyPink
                                    It's all goooood.
                                    • Aug 2009
                                    • 1591

                                    #67
                                    Originally posted by baddog
                                    Actually, he isn't. I've read the stuff including the letter from his attorney, they are dropping charges. The chick has a long history of being a fruitcake.
                                    I know very few that have a SHORT history of being fruitcakes.

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                                    • AsianDivaGirlsWebDude
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                                      • Jul 2004
                                      • 38323

                                      #68
                                      Let's call it a draw, since Donny is...





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                                      • Sarah_Jayne
                                        Now with more Jayne
                                        • Dec 2002
                                        • 40077

                                        #69
                                        Originally posted by crockett
                                        Is snatching kids from playgrounds (to do who knows what with) any less of a crime?
                                        It means they may not have actually abused them as far as the law is concerned or that it can't be proved. Both are bad.

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                                        • PornDiscounts-V
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                                          • Oct 2003
                                          • 5744

                                          #70
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                                          • B4DD4ZZ
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                                            • Nov 2008
                                            • 701

                                            #71
                                            methinkx thats karma at work right thurr

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                                            • CDSmith
                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                              • May 2001
                                              • 51460

                                              #72
                                              Originally posted by Bryan G
                                              Why should I be banned? Did I make the accusations? Donnys not even in this industry and seeks to ruin it. Why you support him only "God" knows why. How's life in bed with .xxx you hyprocrite?
                                              you need to step back and take a breather. Baddog's right on this one.

                                              And you're wrong about Donny not being in this industry. He may come at it now from a religious angle but I can assure you that were it not for adult and his history with it he would not have made much of the $ he's been paid over the past 5+ years to speak about it. He's still in adult, just in a different way. Just the fact that he still comes here and baits you all from time to time shows this to be true.

                                              Put it this way, if this entire business were to be outlawed tomorrow, come the day after Donny would have nothing to campaign against.
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                                              • Matyko
                                                PsyHead
                                                • Aug 2005
                                                • 8681

                                                #73
                                                Originally posted by Dirty F
                                                Christians should not be allowed anywhere near children. For several reasons.
                                                I would replace christians w 'Active' christians
                                                But true dat!

                                                When we were walking @ downtown a few years ago, with my two little daughters and wife, we were walking next to a temple. I was thinking about going inside just to show the kids the nice building and the special atmosphere but I changed my mind as I definitely did not want my 4-5 yr old to ask about the dude on the cross.. Fucking disturbing and SICK symbol imo..

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                                                • AsianDivaGirlsWebDude
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                                                  • Jul 2004
                                                  • 38323

                                                  #74




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                                                  • Jman
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                                                    • Sep 2003
                                                    • 22838

                                                    #75
                                                    Originally posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude




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                                                    • kyro
                                                      So Fucking Banned
                                                      • Dec 2004
                                                      • 783

                                                      #76
                                                      Originally posted by baddog
                                                      Actually, he isn't. I've read the stuff including the letter from his attorney, they are dropping charges. The chick has a long history of being a fruitcake.
                                                      Ok if the almighty know all baddog says so then it must be right. baddog has seen donny's evidence and has weighted in and said not guilty, so donny must be innocent.

                                                      baddog is a great judge of character and when vouches for someone that person has to be good, just look at his best girl friend joan irvine he always vouched for how great she is

                                                      Also, i guess a fruitcake person could never be telling the truth. no they must never have bad things happen to them and if they claim that something bad happens then they are lying 100% of the time.

                                                      I think a fruitcake, crack whore would be the biggest target for someone to mess with her kids because she is less likely to come forward and to be believed. That type of person seems like a good mark for a pedo.

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                                                      • kyro
                                                        So Fucking Banned
                                                        • Dec 2004
                                                        • 783

                                                        #77
                                                        Originally posted by CDSmith
                                                        you need to step back and take a breather. Baddog's right on this one.
                                                        you people are such morons. you think baddog is right because he looked at Donny's evidence. so forget about the police thinking there was enough evidence to arrest him and that the charges haven't been dropped. baddog knows better than the police and prosecutors. fucking people around here are stupid as rocks.

                                                        Originally posted by CDSmith
                                                        And you're wrong about Donny not being in this industry. He may come at it now from a religious angle but I can assure you that were it not for adult and his history with it he would not have made much of the $ he's been paid over the past 5+ years to speak about it. He's still in adult, just in a different way. Just the fact that he still comes here and baits you all from time to time shows this to be true.

                                                        Put it this way, if this entire business were to be outlawed tomorrow, come the day after Donny would have nothing to campaign against.
                                                        donny is not in this industry, couldn't be further from the truth. donny is preying off of this industry and making up lies trying to destroy it for his own gain. People in the industry produce content, make sales, host sites, process transactions, do web design, advertise sites, etc. No go around trying to tell the world that porn is bad. you are fucking delusional.

                                                        a tic on a dogs ass spends time with the dog and if the dog dies the tick could die too, but the tick is not part of the canine family, its just a blood sucking tick. thats all donny is a tick on the porn industry's ass.
                                                        Last edited by kyro; 01-25-2013, 12:11 PM.

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                                                        • AsianDivaGirlsWebDude
                                                          Purveyor, Fine Asian Porn
                                                          • Jul 2004
                                                          • 38323

                                                          #78
                                                          Originally posted by kyro

                                                          donny is preying off of this industry and making up lies trying to destroy it for his own gain. People in the industry produce content, make sales, host sites, process transactions, do web design, advertise sites, etc. No go around trying to tell the world that porn is bad. you are fucking delusional.

                                                          a tick on a dog's ass spends time with the dog and if the dog dies the tick could die too, but the tick is not part of the canine family, its just a blood sucking tick. thats all donny is a tick on the porn industry's ass.




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                                                          • whOaKemosabe
                                                            So Fucking Stoned...
                                                            • Aug 2013
                                                            • 1968

                                                            #79
                                                            Originally posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude




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                                                            oh wow..........

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                                                            • Rochard
                                                              Jägermeister Test Pilot
                                                              • Dec 2001
                                                              • 75733

                                                              #80
                                                              Originally posted by kyro

                                                              Holy shit that's funny!
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                                                              • Donny
                                                                As you wish...
                                                                • May 2002
                                                                • 13754

                                                                #81
                                                                Thanks for bumping this, ADG. I was banned before the outcome was finalized on this. Just as baddog stated, the charges were dropped. Anyone can accuse any other person of anything they choose to accuse them of. Fortunately for me, the woman who accused me was a nut job. Her daughter - the one who she claimed was shown porn - called CPS and had herself removed from the home, told her grandma that her mother had lied about me, and made sure everyone else knew her mom was full of crap. Case dismissed. And without her psycho mom around, she started hanging out with us again and even took trips with my daughters (the two who live with me call me dad so I call them my daughters).

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                                                                • Alex1776
                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                  • Sep 2013
                                                                  • 634

                                                                  #82
                                                                  Originally posted by Donny
                                                                  Thanks for bumping this, ADG. I was banned before the outcome was finalized on this. Just as baddog stated, the charges were dropped. Anyone can accuse any other person of anything they choose to accuse them of. Fortunately for me, the woman who accused me was a nut job. Her daughter - the one who she claimed was shown porn - called CPS and had herself removed from the home, told her grandma that her mother had lied about me, and made sure everyone else knew her mom was full of crap. Case dismissed. And without her psycho mom around, she started hanging out with us again and even took trips with my daughters (the two who live with me call me dad so I call them my daughters).
                                                                  Intense!

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                                                                  • BlackCrayon
                                                                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                    • Jun 2003
                                                                    • 19634

                                                                    #83
                                                                    the strangeness of donny being the most suited person in these girls lives to raise them aside, you just know he is shoving his fanatic religious ideals so far down their throat they must vomit continuously.
                                                                    you don't know you're wearing a leash if you sit by the peg all day..

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                                                                    • Vendzilla
                                                                      Biker Gnome
                                                                      • Mar 2004
                                                                      • 23200

                                                                      #84
                                                                      CPS in Redding California is well known for blowing things way out of proportion.

                                                                      The kids use them to get back at their own parents when they don't get their way
                                                                      Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
                                                                      think about that

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                                                                      • _Richard_
                                                                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                        • Oct 2006
                                                                        • 30991

                                                                        #85
                                                                        Originally posted by Donny
                                                                        Thanks for bumping this, ADG. I was banned before the outcome was finalized on this. Just as baddog stated, the charges were dropped. Anyone can accuse any other person of anything they choose to accuse them of. Fortunately for me, the woman who accused me was a nut job. Her daughter - the one who she claimed was shown porn - called CPS and had herself removed from the home, told her grandma that her mother had lied about me, and made sure everyone else knew her mom was full of crap. Case dismissed. And without her psycho mom around, she started hanging out with us again and even took trips with my daughters (the two who live with me call me dad so I call them my daughters).
                                                                        glad everything is sorted

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                                                                        • Donny
                                                                          As you wish...
                                                                          • May 2002
                                                                          • 13754

                                                                          #86
                                                                          Originally posted by BlackCrayon
                                                                          the strangeness of donny being the most suited person in these girls lives to raise them aside, you just know he is shoving his fanatic religious ideals so far down their throat they must vomit continuously.
                                                                          That makes sense, but the truth is exactly opposite. I tell them what I believe and let them make their own decisions. They sometimes go to church with me, but most of the time do not. One of them has a hard time believing God even exists. I don't freak out: I let her be herself. God gave all of us free will, so why in the world would I want to violate theirs?

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                                                                          • bean-aid
                                                                            So Fucking Banned
                                                                            • Jun 2011
                                                                            • 16493

                                                                            #87
                                                                            I was like... not this again... then read post date. Lot's of people out there with nothing better to do then distort the truth for many reasons... mostly selfish.

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                                                                            • Donny
                                                                              As you wish...
                                                                              • May 2002
                                                                              • 13754

                                                                              #88
                                                                              Originally posted by Vendzilla
                                                                              CPS in Redding California is well known for blowing things way out of proportion.

                                                                              The kids use them to get back at their own parents when they don't get their way
                                                                              Yep. This all started with me turning the woman in to police for violating her parole and for threatening me with a gun. This was her way of getting revenge. I don't think anything at all happened to her. She's still slinging drugs, too, which she gets by trading sex for prescription drugs to a local pharmacist, then turns around and sells them.

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                                                                              • baddog
                                                                                So Fucking Banned
                                                                                • Apr 2001
                                                                                • 107089

                                                                                #89
                                                                                Originally posted by Donny
                                                                                Yep. This all started with me turning the woman in to police for violating her parole and for threatening me with a gun. This was her way of getting revenge. I don't think anything at all happened to her. She's still slinging drugs, too, which she gets by trading sex for prescription drugs to a local pharmacist, then turns around and sells them.
                                                                                And by law, if there is an accusation there has to be an arrest when it comes to abuse.

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                                                                                • Donny
                                                                                  As you wish...
                                                                                  • May 2002
                                                                                  • 13754

                                                                                  #90
                                                                                  Originally posted by baddog
                                                                                  And by law, if there is an accusation there has to be an arrest when it comes to abuse.
                                                                                  Yep. And since I have a perfectly clean record - well, a few traffic violations are on it - they let me turn myself in. They gave a very broad time frame in which to do so (you may turn yourself in between X and Y dates...). I was booked and released in a matter of minutes.

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                                                                                  • AsianDivaGirlsWebDude
                                                                                    Purveyor, Fine Asian Porn
                                                                                    • Jul 2004
                                                                                    • 38323

                                                                                    #91
                                                                                    Originally posted by Donny

                                                                                    Thanks for bumping this, ADG. I was banned before the outcome was finalized on this. Just as baddog stated, the charges were dropped. Anyone can accuse any other person of anything they choose to accuse them of. Fortunately for me, the woman who accused me was a nut job. Her daughter - the one who she claimed was shown porn - called CPS and had herself removed from the home, told her grandma that her mother had lied about me, and made sure everyone else knew her mom was full of crap. Case dismissed. And without her psycho mom around, she started hanging out with us again and even took trips with my daughters (the two who live with me call me dad so I call them my daughters).
                                                                                    It's like when Donny sells his stories to church audiences eager to hear his salacious tales, and he leaves out all of the parts about being a cuckold, the restraining orders, his psycho rants on GFY, etc.

                                                                                    I guess trouble just seems to always find Donny, even when he is pretending to lead a Christian life...



                                                                                    A charlatan and attention whore, Donny has truly found his calling in the ultimate den of lies.

                                                                                    So tell us Donny, how many times you have been banned from GFY (including your fake nicks)? Be sure to tell us about how you were the victim each time too.



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                                                                                    • baddog
                                                                                      So Fucking Banned
                                                                                      • Apr 2001
                                                                                      • 107089

                                                                                      #92
                                                                                      Originally posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude
                                                                                      It's like when Donny sells his stories to church audiences eager to hear his salacious tales, and he leaves out all of the parts about being a cuckold, the restraining orders, his psycho rants on GFY, etc.



                                                                                      ADG
                                                                                      Interesting; I never knew you attended an event he spoke at.

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                                                                                      • Donny
                                                                                        As you wish...
                                                                                        • May 2002
                                                                                        • 13754

                                                                                        #93
                                                                                        Originally posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude
                                                                                        It's like when Donny sells his stories to church audiences eager to hear his salacious tales, and he leaves out all of the parts about being a cuckold, the restraining orders, his psycho rants on GFY, etc.

                                                                                        I guess trouble just seems to always find Donny, even when he is pretending to lead a Christian life...



                                                                                        A charlatan and attention whore, Donny has truly found his calling in the ultimate den of lies.

                                                                                        So tell us Donny, how many times you have been banned from GFY (including your fake nicks)? Be sure to tell us about how you were the victim each time too.



                                                                                        ADG
                                                                                        There's never been a restraining order against me. Ever. I've spoken many times about the sex crap you mentioned, and have written publicly about it. I've also mentioned the drunken rants on GFY in several instances. I don't have an unlimited amount of time to speak, so there's a lot left out, but when I am not constrained by time, I have no problem sharing all of these things. If you ever have the chance to share your life story, and you choose to hold nothing back, you'll notice a curious thing: people only like you MORE when you choose to be raw and share the things you've done. It makes you more relatable and less threatening. Then you'll also notice people will then come up to you afterward and spill their guts, because they feel you're a safe person to whom they can confess their crap.

                                                                                        I have no idea how many times I've been banned from GFY. A lot. I didn't try very hard to hide fake nicks, and those were banned, too. One reason is because I used to work with the people who ran this board, and they weren't very fond of me. There are other reasons, too, of course, that vary depending on circumstances.

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                                                                                        • baddog
                                                                                          So Fucking Banned
                                                                                          • Apr 2001
                                                                                          • 107089

                                                                                          #94
                                                                                          I remember when being banned multiple times was a badge of honor. I have at least two under my belt.

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                                                                                          • Nikki_Licks
                                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                                            • May 2005
                                                                                            • 6323

                                                                                            #95
                                                                                            This shit was posted over a year ago......so what is your point?
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                                                                                            • AsianDivaGirlsWebDude
                                                                                              Purveyor, Fine Asian Porn
                                                                                              • Jul 2004
                                                                                              • 38323

                                                                                              #96
                                                                                              Originally posted by Donny

                                                                                              I have no idea how many times I've been banned from GFY. A lot. I didn't try very hard to hide fake nicks, and those were banned, too. One reason is because I used to work with the people who ran this board, and they weren't very fond of me. There are other reasons, too, of course, that vary depending on circumstances.


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                                                                                              So, given your born-again twist of faith and hahahahahahahahaha (xxx Church) positions, when is the last time you masturbated/had sex?



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                                                                                              • baddog
                                                                                                So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                • Apr 2001
                                                                                                • 107089

                                                                                                #97
                                                                                                Originally posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude






                                                                                                So, given your born-again twist of faith and hahahahahahahahaha (xxx Church) positions, when is the last time you masturbated/had sex?



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                                                                                                Obsess much?

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                                                                                                • Donny
                                                                                                  As you wish...
                                                                                                  • May 2002
                                                                                                  • 13754

                                                                                                  #98
                                                                                                  That shirt in that pic was a gift from my son, meant as a joke.


                                                                                                  I'm not sure why you're interested in my sexuality. If you must know, the Bible says nothing at all about masturbation. I'm not claiming to be perfect in this issue by any means, but it's been so long since I've had sex that I cannot remember. I don't really miss it. Celibacy is easier the longer time goes on.

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                                                                                                  • nico-t
                                                                                                    emperor of my world
                                                                                                    • Aug 2004
                                                                                                    • 29903

                                                                                                    #99
                                                                                                    one can't deny that all these stories about Donny make him very creepy.

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                                                                                                    • RocketRacoon
                                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                                      • Oct 2006
                                                                                                      • 610

                                                                                                      #100
                                                                                                      Originally posted by nico-t
                                                                                                      one can't deny that all these stories about Donny make him very creepy.
                                                                                                      qft where theres smoke there is usually fire

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