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  • kyro
    So Fucking Banned
    • Dec 2004
    • 783

    #1

    Question to the US peeps who own assault rifles

    What is your case that you should be able to own them. you have a right to bear arms but that is rifles and guns, what makes you need an assault rifle? a hand gun is used for protection. you don't hunt with assault rifle. i dont understand how assault riffle is not just for military. can a gun nut explain this to me ?
  • Mr Pheer
    So Fucking Banned
    • Dec 2002
    • 22083

    #2
    I seriously doubt two things here.

    1. That anyone here actually owns an assault rifle.
    2. That you even know the definition of assault rifle.

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    • Roald
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      • May 2001
      • 27910

      #3
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      • kyro
        So Fucking Banned
        • Dec 2004
        • 783

        #4
        Originally posted by Mr Pheer
        I seriously doubt two things here.

        1. That anyone here actually owns an assault rifle.
        2. That you even know the definition of assault rifle.
        Assault weapon refers to different types of firearms, and is a term that has differing meanings and usages.

        In discussions about gun laws and gun politics in the United States, an assault weapon is most commonly defined as a semi-automatic firearm possessing certain features similar to those of military firearms. Semi-automatic firearms fire one bullet (round) each time the trigger is pulled; the spent cartridge case is ejected and another cartridge is loaded into the chamber, without the manual operation of a bolt handle, a lever, or a sliding handgrip. An assault weapon has a detachable magazine, in conjunction with one, two, or more other features such as a pistol grip, a folding stock, a flash suppressor, or a bayonet lug.[1] Most assault weapons are rifles, but some are pistols or shotguns. Proposed legislation formerly under consideration attempted to define the term even more broadly to mean any semi-automatic firearm, any firearm with a detachable magazine, or handguns holding more than 10 rounds which includes the majority of all firearms,[2] but died in committee before even coming to a vote.[3] The exact definition of the term in this context thus varies among each of the various jurisdictions that limit or prohibit assault weapon manufacture, importation, sale, or possession, and legislative attempts are often made to change the definitions. Governing and defining laws include the now-expired Federal Assault Weapons Ban, as well as state and local laws. Whether or not assault weapons should be legally restricted more than other firearms, how they should be defined, and even whether or not the term "assault weapon" should be used at all, are questions subject to considerable debate.[4][5]

        In more casual usage, the term "assault weapon" is sometimes conflated with the term "assault rifle". An assault rifle is a military rifle that utilizes an intermediate-power cartridge, and that generally is capable of full-automatic fire, where multiple rounds are fired continuously when the trigger is pulled one time — that is, a machine gun — or burst capable, where a burst of several rounds is fired when the trigger is pulled one time.[6] In the United States, full-automatic firearms are heavily restricted, and regulated by federal laws such as the National Firearms Act of 1934, as well as some state and local laws.

        The use of the term "assault weapon" is also highly controversial, as critics assert that the term is a media invention,[7] or a term that is intended to cause confusion among the public by intentionally misleading the public to believe that assault weapons (as defined in legislation) are full automatic firearms when they are not.[8]

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        • DWB
          Registered User
          • Jul 2003
          • 31779

          #5
          Originally posted by kyro
          What is your case that you should be able to own them. you have a right to bear arms but that is rifles and guns, what makes you need an assault rifle? a hand gun is used for protection. you don't hunt with assault rifle. i dont understand how assault riffle is not just for military. can a gun nut explain this to me ?
          Why do you have a car that can do 140mph+ when the speed limit is only 55 - 75mph?

          Cars that can reach those speeds are made for speeding only. Over 10,000 deaths occur per year in the USA due to excessive speed. I don't understand why anyone other that professional car racers would need a car that could go that fast. Can a car nut please explain this to me?

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          • Choopa Phil
            Confirmed User
            • Apr 2009
            • 3965

            #6
            Originally posted by DWB
            Why do you have a car that can do 140mph+ when the speed limit is only 55 - 75mph?

            Cars that can reach those speeds are made for speeding only. Over 10,000 deaths occur per year in the USA due to excessive speed. I don't understand why anyone other that professional car racers would need a car that could go that fast. Can a car nut please explain this to me?
            There are street classes for driving...regardless anyone who is a "professional" doesnt drive in full street trim anyway.
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            • Mr Pheer
              So Fucking Banned
              • Dec 2002
              • 22083

              #7
              Originally posted by kyro
              An assault rifle is a military rifle that utilizes an intermediate-power cartridge, and that generally is capable of full-automatic fire, where multiple rounds are fired continuously when the trigger is pulled one time ? that is, a machine gun ? or burst capable, where a burst of several rounds is fired when the trigger is pulled one time.[6] In the United States, full-automatic firearms are heavily restricted, and regulated by federal laws such as the National Firearms Act of 1934, as well as some state and local laws.
              That is the only part of everything that you posted that defines an assault rifle, or in other words, a machine gun. And you probably didnt know it yourself before you went on a search to cut and paste.

              Which goes right along with what I said... I doubt anyone here owns one. And if anyone actually does, it will be very few.

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              • slapass
                Too lazy to set a custom title
                • Nov 2002
                • 14625

                #8
                Originally posted by DWB
                Why do you have a car that can do 140mph+ when the speed limit is only 55 - 75mph?

                Cars that can reach those speeds are made for speeding only. Over 10,000 deaths occur per year in the USA due to excessive speed. I don't understand why anyone other that professional car racers would need a car that could go that fast. Can a car nut please explain this to me?
                Exactly, if I hold up a liquor store, I want to be able to blow away the nursery school next store too.

                Admitting that there is no practical use for an assault rifle is not a help to the gun nut side.

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                • DWB
                  Registered User
                  • Jul 2003
                  • 31779

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Choopa Phil
                  There are street classes for driving...regardless anyone who is a "professional" doesnt drive in full street trim anyway.
                  I think you may have missed my point.

                  This is essentially the same argument anti-gun nutters are using. Why does the public need assault rifles? For the same reason they need cars that can double the speed limit. Because you can speed doesn't mean you will, just as you can flip out and gun down a school, but that doesn't mean you will either. But the cars go to 140+ and the guns can shoot rapidly. It's up to the person controlling the machine to decide what he or she is going to do with it.

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                  • DWB
                    Registered User
                    • Jul 2003
                    • 31779

                    #10
                    Originally posted by slapass
                    Exactly, if I hold up a liquor store, I want to be able to blow away the nursery school next store too.

                    Admitting that there is no practical use for an assault rifle is not a help to the gun nut side.
                    Of course there is no "practical use" for an assault rifle. It has one job, fire bullets rapidly. Hardly practical or needed. It simply does what it was created to do should the person operating it want to use it for such. There is also no practical use for your car being able to double the speed limit either. But you probably own a car, are not a professional drivers, yet speed often.

                    Many things don't have practical uses. But we want them and should have the right to own them if we are responsible. Maybe gun owners who want assault weapons should have to take the same sort of training and test as everyone does when they first get their drivers license. That still won't stop a criminal or a crazy person, but at least it will show they are trying to be responsible with their machine.

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                    • Choopa Phil
                      Confirmed User
                      • Apr 2009
                      • 3965

                      #11
                      Originally posted by DWB
                      I think you may have missed my point.

                      This is essentially the same argument anti-gun nutters are using. Why does the public need assault rifles? For the same reason they need cars that can double the speed limit. Because you can speed doesn't mean you will, just as you can flip out and gun down a school, but that doesn't mean you will either. But the cars go to 140+ and the guns can shoot rapidly. It's up to the person controlling the machine to decide what he or she is going to do with it.
                      I know I was being facetious. That rule can be applicable to many situations. I agree there is no need for 800-1000HP cars, but we make them because we want them. Same like anything else. This gun stuff is getting way out of hand.
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                      • DWB
                        Registered User
                        • Jul 2003
                        • 31779

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Choopa Phil
                        I know I was being facetious. That rule can be applicable to many situations
                        Got ya. Yea, indeed it can.

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                        • dyna mo
                          just a fucking jerk
                          • Dec 2008
                          • 68184

                          #13
                          Originally posted by kyro
                          you don't hunt with assault rifle.


                          Here's a list of 20 assault rifles ideal for hunting.

                          also, target shooting is a very popular sport and uses assault rifles.

                          http://www.outdoorlife.com/photos/ga...g-game-hunting

                          not me:
                          Living in southeast Alaska, I can tell you the semi autos have their place. I do alpine hikes and other hunts over very rugged terrain and being able to have something with a more tactical design is very useful. Glacier rivers, steep mountains and thick brsuh demand a more versatile hunting weapon than can be used in the worst weather conditions possbile. But the biggest reason for a semi auto would be protection, I need something that will stop bears, and fast. I usually lug around my big revolver but it would be nice to have the combination of my hunting rifle and protection gun in one. Though they may not be the pratical gun everywhere, Semi autos in the big game caliber are useful in the islands of Southeast Alaska.
                          Last edited by dyna mo; 01-15-2013, 01:07 PM.

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                          • L-Pink
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                            • Mar 2005
                            • 39151

                            #14
                            Originally posted by dyna mo
                            Here's a list of 20 assault rifles ideal for hunting.

                            also, target shooting is a very popular sport and uses assault rifles.

                            http://www.outdoorlife.com/photos/ga...g-game-hunting
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                            Last edited by L-Pink; 01-15-2013, 01:09 PM.

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                            • Mr Pheer
                              So Fucking Banned
                              • Dec 2002
                              • 22083

                              #15
                              Originally posted by dyna mo
                              Here's a list of 20 assault rifles ideal for hunting.

                              also, target shooting is a very popular sport and uses assault rifles.

                              http://www.outdoorlife.com/photos/ga...g-game-hunting

                              not me:
                              1. Assault rifles are not popular for hunting or even target practice, unless you go to one of those ranges such as in Las Vegas where you can shoot a machine gun.

                              2. An AR15 is not an assault rifle. It is a semi-automatic rifle.

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