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  • Heath
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    • Sep 2008
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    Dicator Obama readies 19 executive actions on guns

    DICTATOR*

    http://www.politico.com/story/2013/0...7.html?hp=t1_3

    The White House has identified 19 executive actions for President Barack Obama to move unilaterally on gun control, Vice President Joe Biden told a group of House Democrats on Monday, the administration’s first definitive statements about its response to last month’s mass shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School.
    Later this week, Obama will formally announce his proposals to reduce gun violence, which are expected to include renewal of the assault weapons ban, universal background checks and prohibition of high-capacity magazine clips. But Biden, who has been leading Obama’s task force on the response, spent two hours briefing a small group of sympathetic House Democrats on the road ahead in the latest White House outreach to invested groups.

    The focus on executive orders is the result of the White House and other Democrats acknowledging the political difficulty of enacting any new gun legislation, a topic Biden did not address in Monday’s meeting.
    The executive actions could include giving the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention authority to conduct national research on guns, more aggressive enforcement of existing gun laws and pushing for wider sharing of existing gun databases among federal and state agencies, members of Congress in the meeting said.

    “It was all focusing on enforcing existing law, administering things like improving the background database, things like that that do not involve a change in the law but enforcing and making sure that the present law is administered as well as possible,” said Rep. Bobby Scott (D-Va.).
    The White House declined to comment on the details of what Obama will propose.

    But Biden did indicate that the remains of the Obama campaign apparatus may be activated in the effort.
    “He said that this has been a real focus on the policy and that the politics of this issue, that a strategy on the politics of the issue hasn’t been undertaken yet,” Rep. Jackie Speier (D-Calif.) told POLITICO. “He did remind us that the campaign infrastructure is still accessible.”
    Biden did not address two of the more significant issues in the gun debate: the appointment of a permanent director of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, and the role violent images in the entertainment industry play in the nation’s gun violence.
    Full article : http://www.politico.com/story/2013/0...7.html?hp=t1_3
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  • TheSquealer
    Mayor of Thneedville
    • Oct 2004
    • 26174

    #2
    Originally posted by Populace
    ?It was all focusing on enforcing existing law, administering things like improving the background database, things like that that do not involve a change in the law but enforcing and making sure that the present law is administered as well as possible,? said Rep. Bobby Scott (D-Va.).
    Dictator?
    .
    Yes, fewer illegal immigrants working equates to more job opportunities for American citizens.

    Rochard

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    • bronco67
      Too lazy to set a custom title
      • Dec 2006
      • 29032

      #3
      It's the same thing as usual...first everyone expresses their sorrow for the loss of life, then the gun nuts wait for a while and come out swinging. Do any of you stop to think for a second about a six year old kids with their jaws blown off, before you defend your precious right to own an assault rifle? Isn't their any room for compromise with with you people?

      I'm also a gun lover...but I can't understand why there can't be some measures taken that doesn't cut into the second ammendment. It's either all or nothing with you idiots.
      Last edited by bronco67; 01-14-2013, 05:54 PM.

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      • Heath
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        #4
        Originally posted by TheSquealer
        “It was all focusing on enforcing existing law, administering things like improving the background database, things like that that do not involve a change in the law but enforcing and making sure that the present law is administered as well as possible,” said Rep. Bobby Scott (D-Va.).
        said Rep. Bobby Scott (D-Va.).

        Did you miss the part a fellow democrat claims this is an existing law? even though it isn't?

        Gimme a break.

        I don't give a shit about Republicans or Democrats since both parties seem to be full of total fucktards.... But the constitution doesn't say anywhere in it this is lawful. The same constitution Obama swore to uphold. Impeachment for violation of oath? Maybe... Sounds logical to those with a brain.

        Originally posted by bronco67
        It's the same thing as usual...first everyone expresses their sorrow for the loss of life, then the gun nuts wait for a while and come out swinging. Do any of you stop to think for a second about a six year old kids with their jaws blown off, before you defend your precious right to own an assault rifle? Isn't their any room for compromise with with you people?

        I'm also a gun lover...but I can't understand why there can't be some measures taken that don't cut into the second ammendment. It's either all or nothing with you idiots.

        LMAO!! let me claim I 'love guns' than say everything I can to go against them... Gun lover my ass... What a load of BS...
        Last edited by Heath; 01-14-2013, 05:48 PM.
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        • Dirty F
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          #5
          Dictator, you people are sad.

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          • DTK
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            • Feb 2002
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            #6
            Originally posted by bronco67
            I'm also a gun lover...but I can't understand why there can't be some measures taken that don't cut into the second ammendment. It's either all or nothing with you idiots.
            This

            Originally posted by Dirty F
            Dictator, you people are sad.
            And this
            Arguing whether the Democratic or Republican party is better is like debating which steaming pile of shit is slightly less stinky.

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            • bronco67
              Too lazy to set a custom title
              • Dec 2006
              • 29032

              #7
              Originally posted by Populace
              said Rep. Bobby Scott (D-Va.).



              LMAO!! let me claim I 'love guns' than say everything I can to go against them... Gun lover my ass... What a load of BS...
              I built my own AR 15 through the mail years ago. I've owned a Mossberg 500 Shotgun, Beretta 92F and four different Ruger 10/22's. So I don't know anything about guns I guess.

              The problem is people who love them too much.
              Last edited by bronco67; 01-14-2013, 05:58 PM.

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              • DTK
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                • Feb 2002
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                #8
                Repeating myself, but....
                Originally posted by DTK
                First off, I believe in a strong 2nd Amendment.

                What the pro-gun people seem to miss is that most people are just asking for some sensible gun regulations, like re-institute the assault weapons ban, background checks that filter for people with a history of violence and/or mental problems. You know, the kind of things that rank and file NRA members want.

                Of course, the right wing tv/radio screamers won't tell you this.

                I saw a show on fox today that was a discussion/debate with a person advocating sensible gun regulations and a representative from the gun lobby.

                When confronted with the fact that a strong majority of NRA members want sensible regulations, he simply changed the subject. Actually, his whole thing when presented with facts was to change the subject.

                I keep saying it and I'll say it again - the leadership of the NRA are nothing more than paid whores for the gun manufacturers. They don't give a damn about the will of their membership, they just want to help their paymasters sell more guns.

                Insane? We'll sell you a gun or three
                History of violence? We'll sell you a gun or three

                Follow the money guys
                Last edited by DTK; 01-14-2013, 05:59 PM.
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                • Heath
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by bronco67
                  I built my own AR 15 through the mail years ago. I've owned a Mossberg 500 Shotgun, Beretta 92F and four different Ruger 10/22's. No I don't love guns.
                  Sure you did.

                  The fact you needed to tell me what imaginary objects you built tell's me you're full of shit.

                  If you DID build them, you certainly would agree Obama is an idiot for attempting to take ALL of the guns you listed from you...

                  But you didn't. So you're full of shit.

                  Originally posted by DTK
                  First off, I believe in a strong 2nd Amendment.

                  What the pro-gun people seem to miss is that most people are just asking for some sensible gun regulations, like re-institute the assault weapons ban, background checks that filter for people with a history of violence and/or mental problems. You know, the kind of things that rank and file NRA members want.

                  Of course, the right wing tv/radio screamers won't tell you this.

                  I saw a show on fox today that was a discussion/debate with a person advocating sensible gun regulations and a representative from the gun lobby.

                  When confronted with the fact that a strong majority of NRA members want sensible regulations, he simply changed the subject. Actually, his whole thing when presented with facts was to change the subject.

                  I keep saying it and I'll say it again - the leadership of the NRA are nothing more than paid whores for the gun manufacturers. They don't give a damn about the will of their membership, they just want to help their paymasters sell more guns.

                  Insane? We'll sell you a gun or three
                  History of violence? We'll sell you a gun or three

                  Follow the money guys
                  Did you honestly think starting your post with "First off, I believe in a strong 2nd Amendment. " would make others think you were totally opposed to it?

                  Only an idiot would read your gibberish and think you agreed with the Second Amendment.
                  Last edited by Heath; 01-14-2013, 06:00 PM.
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                  • DTK
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                    • Feb 2002
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                    #10
                    News flash for ya: The 2nd amendment doesn't mean anyone can own any number of any kind of weapon.
                    Arguing whether the Democratic or Republican party is better is like debating which steaming pile of shit is slightly less stinky.

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                    • Heath
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                      • Sep 2008
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by DTK
                      News flash for ya: The 2nd amendment doesn't mean anyone can own any number of any kind of weapon.
                      News flash for you, you're a liar who claims you support something you obviously don't.
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                      • arock10
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                        • Jan 2006
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                        #12
                        I found this article interesting

                        http://m.washingtonpost.com/blogs/ac...the-gun-lobby/
                        Sup

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                        • DTK
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Populace
                          News flash for you, you're a liar who claims you support something you obviously don't.
                          not sure if trolling
                          Arguing whether the Democratic or Republican party is better is like debating which steaming pile of shit is slightly less stinky.

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                          • epitome
                            So Fucking Lame
                            • Jun 2009
                            • 12156

                            #14
                            Yeah I can't believe Obama came up with those things called Executive Orders.

                            Next he's probably going to invent something called signing statements.

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                            • BFT3K
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                              #15

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                              • Heath
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                                #16
                                Originally posted by DTK
                                not sure if trolling
                                I was wondering the same thing... Are you a troll, or aren't you? Considering you claim you support something you clearly don't....

                                Originally posted by arock10
                                arock posting some more Liberal propaganda? who would'a thunkit!

                                Originally posted by epitome
                                Yeah I can't believe Obama came up with those things called Executive Orders.

                                Next he's probably going to invent something called signing statements.
                                He didn't... He's just using them as a dictator.

                                Anyone who understands executive privilege understands this. Which is probably why many 'scholars' today told him this would be an abuse of power.
                                Last edited by Heath; 01-14-2013, 06:13 PM.
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                                • StickyGreen
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                                  • Oct 2003
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                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by epitome
                                  Yeah I can't believe Obama came up with those things called Executive Orders.
                                  Oh you must be one of those "Other presidents abused executive orders before, so it's okay for him to do it also" people...
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                                  • StickyGreen
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                                    • Oct 2003
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                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by BFT3K
                                    It's not him that people should be "terrified" of, it's the agenda that is behind him and was behind most presidents before him that they should be worried about. Obama himself is harmless, he's just a frontman puppet who reads the teleprompter and does what he's told.
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                                    • bronco67
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                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by Populace
                                      Sure you did.

                                      The fact you needed to tell me what imaginary objects you built tell's me you're full of shit.

                                      If you DID build them, you certainly would agree Obama is an idiot for attempting to take ALL of the guns you listed from you...

                                      But you didn't. So you're full of shit.



                                      Did you honestly think starting your post with "First off, I believe in a strong 2nd Amendment. " would make others think you were totally opposed to it?

                                      Only an idiot would read your gibberish and think you agreed with the Second Amendment.
                                      Not that I need to prove anything to a jerkoff like you, but it was 20 years ago so it may have been a little easier back then. The CAR15 lower receiver was the only part that had to be purchased through a dealer. The rest I was able to get through a company in Washington (the state) named Olympic Arms.

                                      I built it all myself, and the only part I needed help with was getting the barrel torqued correctly. I even reloaded my own .223 rounds. I sold it to a gun dealer in Delaware before going into the Navy.

                                      So anyway, shut the fuck up because you make yourself look more like an idiot the more you type. Don't hurt yourself coming up with your pearls of wisdom.
                                      Last edited by bronco67; 01-14-2013, 06:20 PM.

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                                      • Heath
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                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by StickyGreen
                                        Oh you must be one of those "Other presidents abused executive orders before, so it's okay for him to do it also" people...
                                        Originally posted by StickyGreen
                                        Oh you must be one of those "Other CLAIMED presidents abused executive orders before, so it's okay for him to do it also" people...
                                        I fixed it....!
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                                        • Heath
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                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by bronco67
                                          Not that I need to prove anything to a jerkoff like you, but it was 20 years ago. The CAR15 lower receiver was the only part that had to be purchased through a dealer. The rest I was able to get through a company in Washington (the state) named Olympic Arms.

                                          I built it all myself, and the only part I needed help with was getting the barrel torqued correctly. I even reloaded my own .223 rounds.

                                          So anyway, shut the fuck up because you make yourself look more like an idiot the more you type. Don't hurt yourself coming up with your pearls of wisdom.
                                          You almost had me at 'not that i need to prove anything'...

                                          Then you continued with your obvious attempt at verifying your desperation at verifying you may actually be telling the truth. However. You still are supporting something you openly admit yo having. Therefor... you my friend.... are a moron who claims to support laws against something they, themselves own.

                                          Congrats on your stupidity. Its not often some one admits to such idiocies.
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                                          • DTK
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                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by Populace
                                            I was wondering the same thing... Are you a troll, or aren't you? Considering you claim you support something you clearly don't....
                                            So because i don't believe that the 2nd amendment does not guarantee unlimited weapons for everyone, means I don't believe in the 2nd amendment? Is that what you're saying?

                                            Here's a question for you: What is the problem with common sense gun regulations like re-instituting the assault weapons ban and background checks to filter out people with histories of violence and/or mental health problems?
                                            Arguing whether the Democratic or Republican party is better is like debating which steaming pile of shit is slightly less stinky.

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                                            • DTK
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                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by StickyGreen
                                              It's not him that people should be "terrified" of, it's the agenda that is behind him and was behind most presidents before him that they should be worried about. Obama himself is harmless, he's just a frontman puppet who reads the teleprompter and does what he's told.
                                              QFT

                                              But good luck convincing people like Populace of this blatantly obvious fact.
                                              Arguing whether the Democratic or Republican party is better is like debating which steaming pile of shit is slightly less stinky.

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                                              • StickyGreen
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                                                • Oct 2003
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                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by Populace
                                                I fixed it....!
                                                Other claimed presidents? Wtf does that mean?
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                                                • Elli
                                                  Reach for those stars!
                                                  • Apr 2003
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                                                  #25
                                                  I'm just going to throw this into the mix for conversation.

                                                  http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/arti...v010p00280.pdf
                                                  "TheVictorian death rate for firearm related deaths decreased
                                                  significantly from 4.2 per 100 000 in 1979 to 1.5 per 100 000
                                                  in 2000, which represented an estimated annual percentage
                                                  change of –4.9% (95% confidence interval 2 5.9 to 2 3.9) and
                                                  64.3% overall. The death rate for firearm related deaths for
                                                  the rest of Australian decreased significantly from 5.1 per
                                                  100 000 in 1979 to 1.8 per 100 000 in 2000, which
                                                  represented an estimated annual percentage change of
                                                  2 3.9% (2 4.8 to 2 3.1) and an overall reduction of 64.7%"

                                                  It goes on to say:
                                                  "Supportive evidence for the relation between firearm
                                                  ownership and prevalence of fatalities also comes from a
                                                  number of American studies. Miller et al , in a pooled cross
                                                  sectional time series analysis over 10 years (1988–97), found
                                                  that a disproportionately high number of children aged 5–14
                                                  years died from suicide, homicide, and unintentional firearm
                                                  related deaths in American states and regions in which
                                                  firearms were more prevalent. 6"

                                                  "After controlling for several factors, they foundthat the presence of one or more firearms in the home was
                                                  associated with an increased risk of suicide (adjusted odds
                                                  ratio 4.8, 95% confidence interval 2.7 to 8.5).10
                                                  Similarly,
                                                  keeping a firearm in the home was strongly and indepen-dently associated with an increased risk of homicide"

                                                  "For the same period , despite the declines related to firearms,overall suicide and homicide rates in Victoria did not show a
                                                  similar decline"
                                                  email: [email protected]

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                                                  • bronco67
                                                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                    • Dec 2006
                                                    • 29032

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by Populace
                                                    You almost had me at 'not that i need to prove anything'...

                                                    Then you continued with your obvious attempt at verifying your desperation at verifying you may actually be telling the truth. However. You still are supporting something you openly admit yo having. Therefor... you my friend.... are a moron who claims to support laws against something they, themselves own.

                                                    Congrats on your stupidity. Its not often some one admits to such idiocies.
                                                    I don't own guns anymore. Not that I wouldn't in the future -- but I don't think anything that happens legislatively in the coming months will keep me from getting a gun legally.

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                                                    • Heath
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                                                      • Sep 2008
                                                      • 491

                                                      #27
                                                      Stupid people say stupid things...

                                                      There.. I replied to ALL you morons who claimed you support gun rights. But say they need to be limited.
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                                                      • StickyGreen
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                                                        • Oct 2003
                                                        • 13076

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by Elli
                                                        I'm just going to throw this into the mix for conversation.

                                                        http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/arti...v010p00280.pdf
                                                        "TheVictorian death rate for firearm related deaths decreased
                                                        significantly from 4.2 per 100 000 in 1979 to 1.5 per 100 000
                                                        in 2000, which represented an estimated annual percentage
                                                        change of ?4.9% (95% confidence interval 2 5.9 to 2 3.9) and
                                                        64.3% overall. The death rate for firearm related deaths for
                                                        the rest of Australian decreased significantly from 5.1 per
                                                        100 000 in 1979 to 1.8 per 100 000 in 2000, which
                                                        represented an estimated annual percentage change of
                                                        2 3.9% (2 4.8 to 2 3.1) and an overall reduction of 64.7%"

                                                        It goes on to say:
                                                        "Supportive evidence for the relation between firearm
                                                        ownership and prevalence of fatalities also comes from a
                                                        number of American studies. Miller et al , in a pooled cross
                                                        sectional time series analysis over 10 years (1988?97), found
                                                        that a disproportionately high number of children aged 5?14
                                                        years died from suicide, homicide, and unintentional firearm
                                                        related deaths in American states and regions in which
                                                        firearms were more prevalent. 6"

                                                        "After controlling for several factors, they foundthat the presence of one or more firearms in the home was
                                                        associated with an increased risk of suicide (adjusted odds
                                                        ratio 4.8, 95% confidence interval 2.7 to 8.5).10
                                                        Similarly,
                                                        keeping a firearm in the home was strongly and indepen-dently associated with an increased risk of homicide"

                                                        "For the same period , despite the declines related to firearms,overall suicide and homicide rates in Victoria did not show a
                                                        similar decline"
                                                        If you want to talk about deaths and suicides you should be posting prescription medication statistics. The elephant in the room that no one wants to address...
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                                                        • DTK
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                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by bronco67
                                                          but I don't think anything that happens legislatively in the coming months will keep me from getting a gun legally.
                                                          That's what you'll never get through someone like Populace's head.

                                                          He's clearly bought into the 'Count Chocula is going to take all your guns away' line that extreme right-wing screamers have been selling for four years.

                                                          Contradictory info cannot penetrate that bubble.


                                                          ps. I know you said legislatively and Populace is talking about Dictator Blackenstein using exec orders....what he clearly doesn't understand (among many things, apparently) is the concept of "posturing".
                                                          Last edited by DTK; 01-14-2013, 06:37 PM.
                                                          Arguing whether the Democratic or Republican party is better is like debating which steaming pile of shit is slightly less stinky.

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                                                          • Rochard
                                                            Jägermeister Test Pilot
                                                            • Dec 2001
                                                            • 75733

                                                            #30
                                                            While I am stunned this might happen by executive order, I told you this would happen. Gun laws were coming. Twenty six and seven year old children were brutally murdered, and the NRA's only solution was "more guns".

                                                            The NRA just fucked everyone by their stupidity.
                                                            Herschel Savage
                                                            Brooklyn, NY

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                                                            • DTK
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                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by StickyGreen
                                                              If you want to talk about deaths and suicides you should be posting prescription medication statistics. The elephant in the room that no one wants to address...
                                                              amen to that
                                                              Arguing whether the Democratic or Republican party is better is like debating which steaming pile of shit is slightly less stinky.

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                                                              • AdultPornMasta
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                                                                #32


                                                                "The world is full of obvious things which nobody by any chance ever observes."

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                                                                • epitome
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  Guns that existed when second amendment was written:



                                                                  Guns they are worried about people getting their hands on now:

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                                                                  • DTK
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                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by Rochard
                                                                    and the NRA's only solution was "more guns".

                                                                    The NRA just fucked everyone by their stupidity.
                                                                    Speaking of which.....

                                                                    Today, just a month after the NRA blamed the Newtown tragedy on violent video games (among other things), they released a new 'target practice' app with coffin-shaped targets and head-and-heart bullseyes.
                                                                    Arguing whether the Democratic or Republican party is better is like debating which steaming pile of shit is slightly less stinky.

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                                                                    • DTK
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                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by AdultPornMasta


                                                                      Not only are you a fake nick, scamming tranny, Marion Lynn (aka SallyRand)...you're also a complete fucking idiot
                                                                      Arguing whether the Democratic or Republican party is better is like debating which steaming pile of shit is slightly less stinky.

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                                                                      • Heath
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                                                                        #36
                                                                        Originally posted by DTK
                                                                        That's what you'll never get through someone like Populace's head.

                                                                        He's clearly bought into the 'Count Chocula is going to take all your guns away' line that extreme right-wing screamers have been selling for four years.

                                                                        Contradictory info cannot penetrate that bubble.


                                                                        ps. I know you said legislatively and Populace is talking about Dictator Blackenstein using exec orders....what he clearly doesn't understand (among many things, apparently) is the concept of "posturing".
                                                                        You mean some one who's an actual American and has read the constitution? oh, you got me there bro.... How dare I read the actual constitution and laws that support it.

                                                                        I love reading you retards responses claiming some one else doesn't get something, when in truth its YOU who doesn't get the rule of law.

                                                                        Its funny, and comical.

                                                                        Thanks for the laugh. I appreciate it. I can't tell if you're trolling or attempting to be funny, either way, you win with comedy. congrats.
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                                                                        • AdultPornMasta
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                                                                          #37
                                                                          Originally posted by StickyGreen
                                                                          If you want to talk about deaths and suicides you should be posting prescription medication statistics. The elephant in the room that no one wants to address...
                                                                          "The world is full of obvious things which nobody by any chance ever observes."

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                                                                          • BFT3K
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                                                                            #38

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                                                                            • kyro
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                                                                              #39
                                                                              obama should not get to decide these issues imo

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                                                                              • DTK
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                                                                                #40
                                                                                Interesting, Populace, that you didnt respond to this

                                                                                Originally posted by DTK
                                                                                So because i don't believe that the 2nd amendment does not guarantee unlimited weapons for everyone, means I don't believe in the 2nd amendment? Is that what you're saying?

                                                                                Here's a question for you: What is the problem with common sense gun regulations like re-instituting the assault weapons ban and background checks to filter out people with histories of violence and/or mental health problems?
                                                                                Arguing whether the Democratic or Republican party is better is like debating which steaming pile of shit is slightly less stinky.

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                                                                                • brassmonkey
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                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  not going to work. lets see how far he can go
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                                                                                  • mineistaken
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                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    At least certain degree of dictatorship is in every muslim's blood. Unless a guy named Hussein is not a muslim.

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                                                                                    • DTK
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                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      Originally posted by mineistaken
                                                                                      At least certain degree of dictatorship is in every muslim's blood. Unless a guy named Hussein is not a muslim.
                                                                                      trolling or joking?
                                                                                      Arguing whether the Democratic or Republican party is better is like debating which steaming pile of shit is slightly less stinky.

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                                                                                      • PornoMonster
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                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        Originally posted by bronco67
                                                                                        It's the same thing as usual...first everyone expresses their sorrow for the loss of life, then the gun nuts wait for a while and come out swinging. Do any of you stop to think for a second about a six year old kids with their jaws blown off, before you defend your precious right to own an assault rifle? Isn't their any room for compromise with with you people?

                                                                                        I'm also a gun lover...but I can't understand why there can't be some measures taken that doesn't cut into the second ammendment. It's either all or nothing with you idiots.
                                                                                        Tell me ONE thing that would of stopped the last school shooting?

                                                                                        Yes, the mom should of had the guns locked up, I am guessing in the police report, that she didn't. So Let's throw her body in Jail.

                                                                                        Jusy a FYI, I am for stricter gun laws on obtaining weapons, and background checks.
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                                                                                        • PornoMonster
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                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          Originally posted by epitome
                                                                                          Guns that existed when second amendment was written:



                                                                                          Guns they are worried about people getting their hands on now:

                                                                                          You can take the second amendment route and say, that is what the Military also had at the time! Thus the second picture is again what the military has now.

                                                                                          Or, your second picture is nothing more than a semi auto weapon with lip stick.
                                                                                          I can fire my 30-06 just as fast as the AR-15 and yep can buy, or make large capacity magazines.

                                                                                          Then again, I think the Campus shooting was just handguns??? 32 Killed 17 wounded
                                                                                          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virginia_Tech_massacre
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                                                                                          • AutumnBH
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                                                                                            #46

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                                                                                            • mineistaken
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                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              Originally posted by DTK
                                                                                              trolling or joking?
                                                                                              40% joking 40% trolling 20% serious

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                                                                                              • TCLGirls
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                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                Originally posted by Populace
                                                                                                Stupid people say stupid things...

                                                                                                LOL that's quite funny coming from someone who said this: "Other CLAIMEDpresidents..."

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                                                                                                • DTK
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                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  Originally posted by mineistaken
                                                                                                  40% joking 40% trolling 20% serious
                                                                                                  so at least 20% of you believes that count chocula is a muslim?
                                                                                                  Arguing whether the Democratic or Republican party is better is like debating which steaming pile of shit is slightly less stinky.

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                                                                                                  • mineistaken
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                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    Originally posted by DTK
                                                                                                    so at least 20% of you believes that count chocula is a muslim?
                                                                                                    A little less, because part of those 20% goes for my other statement about muslims having dictatorship gene
                                                                                                    I would say 10% of me believes that. Its either muslim or atheist. No way Christian. But we know that you can not win oval office not claiming to be Christian.
                                                                                                    Plus how many people have different religion than their parents? Not many. You claim that one man named Hussien is one of those exceptions?
                                                                                                    Actually give it more than 10%
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