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  • helenaBlue
    Confirmed User
    • Oct 2010
    • 158

    #1

    a creditcard fraud who drives me so mad

    hey guys,

    i have this one guy, who stole ( because i consider creditcard fraud stealing ) a lot of money from us.
    he comes with the same IP address every time, so im guessing its his dedicated ip address.
    i really dont knwo what to do, he seems to have endless supply of stolen creditcard data.
    what should i do? if i block his ip, he will just use proxy
  • crunkedge
    Confirmed User
    • Apr 2009
    • 264

    #2
    you need know more about your affiliates(traffic sources, monetization methods) if I understand you right

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    • helenaBlue
      Confirmed User
      • Oct 2010
      • 158

      #3
      Originally posted by pillow
      you need know more about your affiliates(traffic sources, monetization methods) if I understand you right

      he is not coming through an affiliate.. he is a member, who spends money from stolen cards on our models, watching webcam sex, and we have to pay the girls, and refund all his transactions

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      • lagcam
        Confirmed User
        • Jul 2007
        • 2890

        #4
        Every cam site has these bastards.

        Send me an email to paul at my gfy user name dot com and I will give you some things to try.

        For obvious reasons I cannot tell you here.
        Last edited by lagcam; 01-11-2013, 01:28 AM.
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        • helenaBlue
          Confirmed User
          • Oct 2010
          • 158

          #5
          Originally posted by lagcam
          Every cam site has these bastards.

          Send me an email to paul at my gfy user name dot com and I will give you some things to try.

          For obvious reasons I cannot tell you here.
          sent an email, might have landed in your spam folder..

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          • AllAboutCams
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            • Jul 2011
            • 12234

            #6
            do other people do this how would you stop them
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            • Emil
              Confirmed User
              • Feb 2007
              • 5658

              #7
              I think you should look up the IP and contact ISP and police in that country. Hopefully he's stupid enough to use his own IP.
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              • helenaBlue
                Confirmed User
                • Oct 2010
                • 158

                #8
                Originally posted by Emil
                I think you should look up the IP and contact ISP and police in that country. Hopefully he's stupid enough to use his own IP.
                thanks Emil, i did that this morning. I have talked to the IPS, and sent them all details. I just hope they'll give a fuck..

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                • DWB
                  Registered User
                  • Jul 2003
                  • 31779

                  #9
                  My info is in sig. Please send me his email and whatever name you may have. We have a few special surprises for guys like this.

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                  • onwebcam
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                    • Oct 2005
                    • 27689

                    #10
                    Wouldn't a simple IP block suffice?
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                    • lagcam
                      Confirmed User
                      • Jul 2007
                      • 2890

                      #11
                      Originally posted by helenaCamPrime
                      sent an email, might have landed in your spam folder..
                      Replied. Hope it helps.
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                      • newB
                        Confirmed User
                        • Jul 2006
                        • 2870

                        #12
                        Originally posted by helenaCamPrime
                        hey guys,

                        i have this one guy, who stole ( because i consider creditcard fraud stealing ) a lot of money from us.
                        he comes with the same IP address every time, so im guessing its his dedicated ip address.
                        i really dont knwo what to do, he seems to have endless supply of stolen creditcard data.
                        what should i do? if i block his ip, he will just use proxy
                        My opinion is that you should still block his IP. Otherwise, you're doing nothing on a presumption of what he'll do next, of which he has given no indication.

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                        • helenaBlue
                          Confirmed User
                          • Oct 2010
                          • 158

                          #13
                          Originally posted by DWB
                          My info is in sig. Please send me his email and whatever name you may have. We have a few special surprises for guys like this.
                          i( dont wanna ), no i dont dare to take drastic steps, as i am affraid i would get kicked in the ass for hurting his rights


                          and to everyone else, thanks for your suggestions, i got a few ideas now, how to prevent him stealing from us in the future
                          thanks for everyone

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                          • Best-In-BC
                            Confirmed User
                            • Jun 2002
                            • 9511

                            #14
                            Originally posted by helenaCamPrime
                            he is not coming through an affiliate.. he is a member, who spends money from stolen cards on our models, watching webcam sex, and we have to pay the girls, and refund all his transactions
                            ROFL, man that sucks, cant get a police tech team to hunt him down ?
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                            • iSpyCams
                              Amateur Gynecologist
                              • May 2009
                              • 4436

                              #15
                              Originally posted by helenaCamPrime
                              i( dont wanna ), no i dont dare to take drastic steps, as i am affraid i would get kicked in the ass for hurting his rights


                              and to everyone else, thanks for your suggestions, i got a few ideas now, how to prevent him stealing from us in the future
                              thanks for everyone
                              You should still block his IP address, and keep blocking them. Proxies that are fast enough to stream video through are not usually free, so you can keep him busy by blocking his available IP addresses. The idea is not to to make your site foolproof, because it never will be. It's just to make you a less easy target so he can go be someone else's problem for awhile.
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                              • BIGTYMER
                                Junior Achiever
                                • Nov 2004
                                • 17066

                                #16
                                Originally posted by helenaCamPrime
                                i( dont wanna ), no i dont dare to take drastic steps, as i am affraid i would get kicked in the ass for hurting his rights


                                and to everyone else, thanks for your suggestions, i got a few ideas now, how to prevent him stealing from us in the future
                                thanks for everyone
                                Hurting his rights? This isn't McDonalds. Block his ass.

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                                • Barry-xlovecam
                                  It's 42
                                  • Jun 2010
                                  • 18083

                                  #17
                                  A fraudster using his own IP? IP block him at the pay page -- don't give him any message just load a blank page with the background image.

                                  His fun is over and he cannot figure out what happened.

                                  See if you can get any Police interest -- internet credit card fraud is a crime in most places.

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                                  • Validus
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • Jul 2001
                                    • 4012

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by helenaCamPrime
                                    hey guys,

                                    i have this one guy, who stole ( because i consider creditcard fraud stealing ) a lot of money from us.
                                    he comes with the same IP address every time, so im guessing its his dedicated ip address.
                                    i really dont knwo what to do, he seems to have endless supply of stolen creditcard data.
                                    what should i do? if i block his ip, he will just use proxy
                                    Hit me up on ICQ. I can give you some ideas.

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                                    • iSpyCams
                                      Amateur Gynecologist
                                      • May 2009
                                      • 4436

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by Barry-xlovecam
                                      A fraudster using his own IP? IP block him at the pay page -- don't give him any message just load a blank page with the background image.

                                      His fun is over and he cannot figure out what happened.

                                      See if you can get any Police interest -- internet credit card fraud is a crime in most places.
                                      OR just have your processor block his IP. He will get declined with some generic message. He will think none of his stolen CC's are any good.
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                                      • adultmobile
                                        No, I am not banned
                                        • Nov 2003
                                        • 5345

                                        #20
                                        I gets lots of that fraudsters every week or even every day, they're of many types. If that's always the same ip it is quite easy, you ban the ip. If the guy returns with many new IP's, depends if these are IPSs or servers - if that's servers you can email servers easier. At times I can get his real IP from flash (uses OS and not browser, depends if he use a VPN), then I mail him his real IP, this scare some. If that's not scary enough and he returns, I mail him with in cc: the police mail of his area + the abuse of his own ISP, adding translation in his language. To a vietnam guy I mailed in cc: the minister of interiors or so, could not find smaller officials. The minister even replied... but not him.
                                        Some guy persists even you show his own ip with in cc: the whole police and ISP's of his nation, then last resort, I give him link to other competing cam sites. This is a little bastard to do, but it works at times to have him look elsewhere, and stop pester me (sorry).

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                                        • Va2k
                                          I’m still alive barley.
                                          • Oct 2001
                                          • 10060

                                          #21
                                          Please send me info on this asshole we have one were having problems with as well. [email protected]

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                                          • lagcam
                                            Confirmed User
                                            • Jul 2007
                                            • 2890

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by adultmobile
                                            I gets lots of that fraudsters every week or even every day, they're of many types. If that's always the same ip it is quite easy, you ban the ip. If the guy returns with many new IP's, depends if these are IPSs or servers - if that's servers you can email servers easier. At times I can get his real IP from flash (uses OS and not browser, depends if he use a VPN), then I mail him his real IP, this scare some. If that's not scary enough and he returns, I mail him with in cc: the police mail of his area + the abuse of his own ISP, adding translation in his language. To a vietnam guy I mailed in cc: the minister of interiors or so, could not find smaller officials. The minister even replied... but not him.
                                            Some guy persists even you show his own ip with in cc: the whole police and ISP's of his nation, then last resort, I give him link to other competing cam sites. This is a little bastard to do, but it works at times to have him look elsewhere, and stop pester me (sorry).
                                            You are clearly a very knowledgeable guy on cams and many other subjects adultmobile, but the problem is that you don't have any filters. You seem to churn out advice and opinion without any idea or concept of what you should share in public and what you shouldn't.
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                                            • adultmobile
                                              No, I am not banned
                                              • Nov 2003
                                              • 5345

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by lagcam
                                              You are clearly a very knowledgeable guy on cams and many other subjects adultmobile, but the problem is that you don't have any filters. You seem to churn out advice and opinion without any idea or concept of what you should share in public and what you shouldn't.
                                              I would not call myself a wikileaks guy for just writing some detail here and there. I am filtering lots of stuff always (believe it or not), is just if compared with GFY standard spammy or unlikely conspiracy posts. Compare with science forums, my posts are incomplete and secretive. Is just GFY guys think they know special secrets and tricks and if someone else knows the same their business is gone, honestly to tell all the info to competitors and hackers is fine and even funny if they don't make use of it, my 2 cents.

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                                              • pimpmaster9000
                                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                • Dec 2011
                                                • 26732

                                                #24
                                                this is credit card fraud pure and simple and no matter where he lives you should report him to the police and get local police involved as well...if he is using a static IP he is easy picking....
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                                                • Penny24Seven
                                                  So Fucking What
                                                  • Jun 2007
                                                  • 6287

                                                  #25
                                                  lagcam knows stuff nobody else knows ever LOL don't let the secret out of the bag
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                                                  • adultmobile
                                                    No, I am not banned
                                                    • Nov 2003
                                                    • 5345

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by Brian837
                                                    lagcam knows stuff nobody else knows ever LOL don't let the secret out of the bag
                                                    The lagcam guy runs a real cam site, unlike 99% of other posters who at best are affiliates, so respects. Just I was surprised he spanks me for talk with "no filters", could he specify what should have been filtered here or previously.
                                                    What I could guess 1) I had teached carders secret procedures the cam sites do against them? Or 2) I been now hated by streamate, livejasmin and myfreecams since I advise returning carders to go other sites, but no as big sites are not friendly with me in any case. Maybe he think I'm mailing carders "to go lagcam instead", but no, lol, to small sites I'm friendly, talk with some regularly and send them models to register, so to combat the top sites oligarchy.

                                                    By the way today a carder came back after months (he could fool me a few sales past year) but could recognise immediately as the guy used very similar nickname and email, he's really no "hacker". Carders please learn, change nicknames completely. His IP's on land now redirects to FBI cyber crime page, maybe scares him to end there or maybe no.

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                                                    • iSpyCams
                                                      Amateur Gynecologist
                                                      • May 2009
                                                      • 4436

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by adultmobile
                                                      The lagcam guy runs a real cam site, unlike 99% of other posters who at best are affiliates, so respects. Just I was surprised he spanks me for talk with "no filters", could he specify what should have been filtered here or previously.
                                                      What I could guess 1) I had teached carders secret procedures the cam sites do against them? Or 2) I been now hated by streamate, livejasmin and myfreecams since I advise returning carders to go other sites, but no as big sites are not friendly with me in any case. Maybe he think I'm mailing carders "to go lagcam instead", but no, lol, to small sites I'm friendly, talk with some regularly and send them models to register, so to combat the top sites oligarchy.

                                                      By the way today a carder came back after months (he could fool me a few sales past year) but could recognise immediately as the guy used very similar nickname and email, he's really no "hacker". Carders please learn, change nicknames completely. His IP's on land now redirects to FBI cyber crime page, maybe scares him to end there or maybe no.
                                                      I don't know why everyone is so afraid of talking about anti fraud tactics and methods for discovering carders. Carders are not smart. It's not a smart way to make money. You don't build relationships, you just burn bridges in font and behind you all day long. Sooner or later there are going to be diminishing returns. Of course i have some advanced tactics for detecting card thieves that I would never share, but basic stuff that everyone should be doing anyway (reviewing transactions daily, blocking abusive IPs etc.) are not secrets.
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                                                      • lagcam
                                                        Confirmed User
                                                        • Jul 2007
                                                        • 2890

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by Brian837
                                                        lagcam knows stuff nobody else knows ever LOL don't let the secret out of the bag
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                                                        • lagcam
                                                          Confirmed User
                                                          • Jul 2007
                                                          • 2890

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by adultmobile
                                                          The lagcam guy runs a real cam site, unlike 99% of other posters who at best are affiliates, so respects. Just I was surprised he spanks me for talk with "no filters", could he specify what should have been filtered here or previously.
                                                          What I could guess 1) I had teached carders secret procedures the cam sites do against them? Or 2) I been now hated by streamate, livejasmin and myfreecams since I advise returning carders to go other sites, but no as big sites are not friendly with me in any case. Maybe he think I'm mailing carders "to go lagcam instead", but no, lol, to small sites I'm friendly, talk with some regularly and send them models to register, so to combat the top sites oligarchy.

                                                          By the way today a carder came back after months (he could fool me a few sales past year) but could recognise immediately as the guy used very similar nickname and email, he's really no "hacker". Carders please learn, change nicknames completely. His IP's on land now redirects to FBI cyber crime page, maybe scares him to end there or maybe no.
                                                          This post is exactly what I mean, but if you can't see why, I am not going to spell it out here. You can mail me to paul at my gfy user name dotcom if you really want to know.
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                                                          • Barry-xlovecam
                                                            It's 42
                                                            • Jun 2010
                                                            • 18083

                                                            #30
                                                            One IP address is too fucking easy ...

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                                                            • BareBacked
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                                                              • Feb 2007
                                                              • 3685

                                                              #31
                                                              block his IP first
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                                                              • adultmobile
                                                                No, I am not banned
                                                                • Nov 2003
                                                                • 5345

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by lagcam
                                                                This post is exactly what I mean, but if you can't see why, I am not going to spell it out here. You can mail me to paul at my gfy user name dotcom if you really want to know.
                                                                It coudl be you have a point, but why don't you emailed me in first place rather than post here? I see you don't want to disclose what I had not to disclose, which seems consistent with the non disclosure policy. But you feed the troll when you disclosed before, that I should not disclose certain details, without tell what ones and why. Is like you post the first episode of Lords of the Rings and refuse to post next ones, obviously readers will want you to disclose the part 2, is like "I know this but I don't tell you what". Either you had simply posted "please mail me" in first place (or better, you had emailed me with no posts), so to keep the whole "no filters" topic outside the forum, or you had disclosed full story with examples, so your point was fully made.

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