Mailing Solution/Bullet Proof Hosting - GoFuckYourself.com

Bulletproof · 02-19-2003, 02:15 PM

I'd like to mention that we have some openings for new hosting clients for mail servers, bullet proof servers, and BP virtual accounts. All accounts can handle unlimited complaints. We haven't had any openings for a while, since we use a number of boxes to mail for ourselves, and our customers rarely leave. I apologize to the people on my icq who requested to be contacted when we started accepting new clients, I don't have time to dig through old icq logs. Just contact me again and I'll get you set up.

We have made contacts with several providers allowing us to provide a wide range or services. Our flagship product is our in USA Bullet Proof webhosting. These sites are fast and furious with solid support. On your dedicated box you'll get 10 IPs which you can resell or use for yourself. You'll see upload transmission rates of 3.5mbps or better. We monitor each server and are paged within 15 minutes if it should fail. We guarantee 92% up time, if we don't provide it, we'll extend your subscription. These are premium solutions and price is not the main selling point of these servers. However, your uptime rates and the speed at which your site is served will increase your profits. You produce the traffic, and we'll have a page there for them. Your own dedicated server is $3,250.00/month, which gets you on a dual 1.4 AMD Athlon CPU's with 1 gigabyte of RAM.

Our mail servers are in Amsterdam, and will send out over 10 million e-mails/day for you, as well as host your landing pages. All with the same guaranteed 92% uptime. The cost for a mail server is $4,850.00/month. We usually look for 6 month contracts for our mailing servers, but for the time being you can try one month before signing a long term contract.

We monitor our sites with redundant third party tools with state of the art monitoring providers. We monitor each IP at least every 30 minutes and servers ever 15 minutes. If a site stops responding, alerts are sent to various key e-mail accounts at the provider level and employee pagers go off. We monitor all of our sites with third party software from Alertra.com.

We strive to tell you the truth, even when it's hard. We will make mistakes and we will have some down time, when it's our fault, we will tell you and make compensation. If what I tell you cannot be believed, then I have nothing to sell you. There can be integrity in this business and this business can be conducted in a friendly manner. We will do both. We are not doing you a favor, you are our customer and you will be treated that way. I've seen far too many bullet proof providers that act like they are doing you a favor for taking your money. Not us.

Contact me using the information in my sig if you'd like you discuss this with me further.

Bulletproof · 02-19-2003, 02:17 PM

Also, if you don't have e-mails, we have lists that we will lease or sell. We have big adult general (spam) lists, adult opt in lists, and paysite member lists. We also send out opt in adult and casino mailings daily that you can buy ad space in.

sextoyking · 02-19-2003, 02:20 PM

We also setup Landing Page servers all the time for clients.

our costs are a little diff. $700.00 per month

thanks

todd

Rich · 02-19-2003, 03:00 PM

If your casino opt ins are really opt ins, we need to talk. :-)

E-mail me your phone number and let's work something out. richard AT bigleaguebetting.com

(BTW I'm too lazy to turn sigs on to get your contact info)

Bulletproof · 02-19-2003, 05:40 PM

You got it Rich, check your e-mail. Sorry it took so long, I was busy talking to people who e-mailed and icq'd me.

Thanks to everyone else who contacted me. We still have room for a couple more customers, so if you're interested get ahold of me.

x582 · 02-19-2003, 06:03 PM

Lane · 02-19-2003, 06:19 PM

remove me

Bulletproof · 02-19-2003, 08:10 PM

Every one of our customers has to have a valid remove link, we can provide that for them if they need it.

gothweb · 02-19-2003, 08:15 PM

92% uptime kicks ass. Less than two hours of downtime per day. Awsome!

Bulletproof · 02-19-2003, 08:20 PM

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Originally posted by gothweb
92% uptime kicks ass. Less than two hours of downtime per day. Awsome!

You're right, that is good, 27.5 days out of 30 is fantastic for a bullet proof server. Anyone who says they can do better is probably lying.

02-19-2003, 08:34 PM

I don't get why a higher uptime is an issue. Do the providers that allow spam have such shitty pipes?

Bulletproof · 03-03-2003, 11:10 AM

bumpity bump bump

Thank you to all my new clients, I had no idea GFY had so many spammers.

I still have room for 5 new mailing servers, so anyone who needs a reliable mailing solution, contact me.

Feel free to contact me just about e-mail lists as well, I won't try to push the hosting on you or anything. I have paysite members, opt ins, and general adult spam lists.

Rich · 03-03-2003, 12:12 PM

This guy is legit, he hooked me up with a nice stable server to do my casino newsletters from, and he's already got a bunch of major adult players mailing with him.

FYI, I only sent e-mails people who have played at my casinos and requested e-mail notifications, I'm not a spammer so haters fuck off.

nocostporn · 03-03-2003, 12:17 PM

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Originally posted by Rich

FYI, I only sent e-mails people who have played at my casinos and requested e-mail notifications, I'm not a spammer so haters fuck off.

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Originally posted by Bulletproof

Thank you to all my new clients, I had no idea GFY had so many spammers.

SUUUURE

Rich · 03-03-2003, 12:25 PM

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Originally posted by nocostporn

SUUUURE

lol, haters make me laugh. Jealous because every time I mail my players list I make more than you make in a year? Go home buddy, this here thread's for grown folks.

rpet · 03-03-2003, 12:57 PM

Im interested... I also have many list for sale/and trade.

One.
Rpet

DeanCapture · 03-03-2003, 12:57 PM

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Originally posted by Bulletproof
"....we have lists that we will lease or sell. We have big adult general (spam) lists....."

SPAMMERS SUCK - FUCK YOU ASSHOLE!

*Dean

Bulletproof · 03-03-2003, 01:11 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by DeanCapture

SPAMMERS SUCK - FUCK YOU ASSHOLE!

*Dean

Let me guess, Oliver's Money doesn't allow spam?

right

DeanCapture · 03-03-2003, 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Bulletproof

Let me guess, Oliver's Money doesn't allow spam?

right

Bulletproof · 03-03-2003, 01:31 PM

All I'm saying is, no need to insult me because I help people spam. Even if you don't do it yourself, you know all the other big players with affiliate programs you know do. Come on now, don't act like it's ME behind all the web's spam. Supply and demand brother, I give the people what they need.

Snake Doctor · 03-03-2003, 01:35 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Bulletproof
Supply and demand brother, I give the people what they need.

No, actually you make them pay you handsomely for what they need

Bulletproof · 03-03-2003, 01:54 PM

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Originally posted by Lenny2

No, actually you make them pay you handsomely for what they need

hahaha, ok you're right, I don't exactly GIVE them what they need.

DeanCapture · 03-03-2003, 02:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Bulletproof
All I'm saying is, no need to insult me because I help people spam. Even if you don't do it yourself, you know all the other big players with affiliate programs you know do. Come on now, don't act like it's ME behind all the web's spam. Supply and demand brother, I give the people what they need.

Hey, as long as your comfortable looking in the mirror and seeing one of the lowest life forms on earth - I'm cool with it.

I have no respect for assholes like you who buy and sell mailing lists for the sole purpose of spamming. I guess it's because I get up every morning and spend half an hour cleaning out my fucking mailbox because of idiots like you. Oh - did I insult you? Well tough shit asshole. By sleeping with spammers, you insulted yourself.

Stick your mailing list up your fucking ass!

Dean*

DavePlays · 03-03-2003, 02:12 PM

Isn't this the same SPAM we get here about once a month?

Yes... it is - and if I may offer the same reply.....

You and all the fucking email spammers should have a server shoved up your sorry fucking asses.

have a nice day

DavePlays · 03-03-2003, 02:24 PM

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Originally posted by Bulletproof
All I'm saying is, no need to insult me because I help people spam. Even if you don't do it yourself, you know all the other big players with affiliate programs you know do. Come on now, don't act like it's ME behind all the web's spam. Supply and demand brother, I give the people what they need.

You are missing the problem..
it's bad enough to be in the SPAM business -
it's worse to encourage others to do it -
but you then SPAM us with it here.

Surely you don't expect much more than you've got here did you? SPAM has hurt the Internet and the adult business as a whole.

You make yourself "Mr.Spam" - expect to be hated as much as SPAM itself.

DeanCapture · 03-03-2003, 02:26 PM

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Originally posted by Bulletproof
All I'm saying is, no need to insult me because I help people spam.

What a fucking loser this guy is....

Dean*

Bulletproof · 03-03-2003, 02:34 PM

What % of the total signups in this industry are from spam? Care to venture a guess? Probably more than you anti-spammers think.

Sorry guys, spam isn't hurting this industry, spam built this industry. You think all the fucking money spent at the conventions is to get TGP dollars? lol, open your eyes.

There's a difference between legal, responsable spamming with a remove link, and hammering the same e-mail 10X a day with no way to remove. I am a responsible bulker, and so are all my clients.

I guess we'll have to agree to disagree, have a nice life guys.

DavePlays · 03-03-2003, 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Bulletproof
What % of the total signups in this industry are from spam? Care to venture a guess? Probably more than you anti-spammers think.

Sorry guys, spam isn't hurting this industry, spam built this industry. You think all the fucking money spent at the conventions is to get TGP dollars? lol, open your eyes.

There's a difference between legal, responsable spamming with a remove link, and hammering the same e-mail 10X a day with no way to remove. I am a responsible bulker, and so are all my clients.

I guess we'll have to agree to disagree, have a nice life guys.

SPAM is like telemarketing - they sold a lot of shit too. Now because it got totally out of hand (like SPAM has) the Government is starting the national do-not-call-list. They just pushed people too far - just like SPAM is doing - and sooner or later it will happen to SPAM too.

The amount of it doubles every six months or something like that? You can say SPAM built the adult business (though I think you would be VERY hardpressed to prove it) - It will surely fuck it up the way it's going.

People are afraid of the internet as it is - with virus's and credit card scams - SPAM is just NOT making it better or growing anything but fear of doing business on the net. And YOU want to believe that's a GOOD thing?

twistyneck · 03-03-2003, 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Bulletproof
All I'm saying is, no need to insult me because I help people spam.

Cockholster.

DeanCapture · 03-03-2003, 02:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Bulletproof
....."There's a difference between legal, responsable spamming with a remove link, and hammering the same e-mail 10X a day with no way to remove. I am a responsible bulker, and so are all my clients."

Yea...right! You sound just like all the rest of the fucking asswipes out there that do what you do. All spammers claim they are legit - what else is new?

Go to hell loser - YOU SUCK!

Dean*

cluck · 03-03-2003, 02:51 PM

Spam is definetly not doubling every 6 months. More and more people are dropping the bulking business because of filters and whatnot. If anything the opt-in business is growing because people can't figure out/afford to spam illegally anymore.

Even as far as illegal spam goes, look at any resource site. I guarantee at least 50% of the top sponsors out there who are TOUGH on small spammers will make deals with people who can mail high volumes off stolen AOL accounts. When I used to spam I got offers from a whole bunch of major sponsors. I won't name them here, but they're the REAL big guys that every newbie uses or knows about. It's amazing how easy it is to get a whitelisted spam account with these guys if you can mail high volumes.

nocostporn · 03-03-2003, 02:58 PM

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Originally posted by Rich

lol, haters make me laugh. Jealous because every time I mail my players list I make more than you make in a year? Go home buddy, this here thread's for grown folks.

I've posted stats on this board,have you? 1 sponsor for 1 week impressed quite a few people coming from an anon

Needless to say I know I make more than 3 out of every 4 people on here...

Just because somebody questions you doesn't make them a "hater"...stop studying the neighborhood thugs from your bedroom window son..go buy your E-40 dictionary

Rich · 03-03-2003, 03:41 PM

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Originally posted by nocostporn

I've posted stats on this board,have you? 1 sponsor for 1 week impressed quite a few people coming from an anon Needless to say I know I make more than 3 out of every 4 people on here...

Just because somebody questions you doesn't make them a "hater"...stop studying the neighborhood thugs from your bedroom window son..go buy your E-40 dictionary

you're the man cool guy

notion · 03-03-2003, 03:46 PM

All I have to say on the topic of spamming is: if there wasn't money behind spamming, spamming would stop. So instead of hating on the people that do spam, stop telling all your friends to click those friendly links that they get in their email everyday.

Sharky · 03-03-2003, 04:37 PM

Did you wake up on the wrong side of the bed this morning Dean?

:-))

DeanCapture · 03-03-2003, 04:47 PM

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Originally posted by sharky
Did you wake up on the wrong side of the bed this morning Dean?

:-))

Naaaaaa - I woke up to over 60 pieces of spam in my box this morning....thanks to assholes like this guy. Sharky, you know that I'm a pretty nice guy - take care of my biz and always treat others with respect - but, when I get a chance to blow off a little steam to one of these spamming assholes - I seize the opportunity.

Two things I hate in this world - child molesters and spammers. And, If I could - I would be happy to line them all up in front of a firing squad and I'd be the first mother fucker to pull the trigger

Howz the family Sharky? Great to hear from you

Dean*

Backov · 03-03-2003, 04:59 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Bulletproof
What % of the total signups in this industry are from spam? Care to venture a guess? Probably more than you anti-spammers think.

Sorry guys, spam isn't hurting this industry, spam built this industry. You think all the fucking money spent at the conventions is to get TGP dollars? lol, open your eyes.

There's a difference between legal, responsable spamming with a remove link, and hammering the same e-mail 10X a day with no way to remove. I am a responsible bulker, and so are all my clients.

I guess we'll have to agree to disagree, have a nice life guys.

Give me your IP blocks, and we'll see how responsible and bulletproof you are, shall we?

Sharky · 03-03-2003, 05:00 PM

Family is doing very well Dean:-) Thanks for asking!

Do you honestly think Spammers and Child pornographers deserve to be put in the same category?

I certainly don't.

There are PLENTY of mailer companies who mail the right way, abide by all laws and most importantly.. REMOVE YOU!
There are a lot of shitty companies that DON'T do that.. those are the fuckers who should be burned.

I mail.. I don't see anything wrong with it. I have a remove list of over 12,000,000 email addresses. These are people who have unsubscribed from one of my lists, or unsubscribed from a list of people I am close with. I scrub any new list I get with this list, and I add to it DAILY. I don't forge any info or hide my identity. My lists are mostly purchased (I do have some I collected myself) former paysite subscibers.

You know me, I don't deserve to be locked into the group you mentioned:-)

I know you were letting off steam.. Just thought I would give you my point of view!

nocostporn · 03-03-2003, 05:02 PM

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Originally posted by notion
All I have to say on the topic of spamming is: if there wasn't money behind spamming, spamming would stop. So instead of hating on the people that do spam, stop telling all your friends to click those friendly links that they get in their email everyday.

yeah I guess you're right...The police should stop "hatin" on those million dollar a week crack dealers to huh? Since they ARE making money?...fuck outta here

I can go kill your grandma if the price is right,doesn't mean it's ethical...

Rich

indeed

Backov · 03-03-2003, 05:04 PM

Sharky,

So you mail - do you send from your own hosts SMTP server, or one you've leased for that purpose? Who is the mail "from"? What is the "reply to"? What is the subject line? Do you use ADV:? Do you scrub people on the various states do-not-spam lists? Do you make any effort to fool spam filters?

Let's hear how responsible you are. Any one of those questions has the wrong answer, and I'm afraid to tell you that you're not a mailer, you're a spammer.

nocostporn · 03-03-2003, 05:06 PM

People have yet to realize this industry polices itself at this point... Once an outside force(the government) steps in,I really don't want to hear you people complaining

"what do you do for a living?" ahh I'm an adult webmaster "so thats YOU the sends me all those mails?!"...
Thats the response I get when I tell ANYBODY what I do for a living...what does that tell you? We're ALL spammers,we're ALL CP dealers...in the eyes of the people that matter

sorry but I don't like being grouped with you homo's

p00p · 03-03-2003, 05:08 PM

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Originally posted by sharky
Family is doing very well Dean:-) Thanks for asking!

Do you honestly think Spammers and Child pornographers deserve to be put in the same category?

I certainly don't.

There are PLENTY of mailer companies who mail the right way, abide by all laws and most importantly.. REMOVE YOU!
There are a lot of shitty companies that DON'T do that.. those are the fuckers who should be burned.

I mail.. I don't see anything wrong with it. I have a remove list of over 12,000,000 email addresses. These are people who have unsubscribed from one of my lists, or unsubscribed from a list of people I am close with. I scrub any new list I get with this list, and I add to it DAILY. I don't forge any info or hide my identity. My lists are mostly purchased (I do have some I collected myself) former paysite subscibers.

You know me, I don't deserve to be locked into the group you mentioned:-)

I know you were letting off steam.. Just thought I would give you my point of view!

I totally agree with you. I don't really care abou the spam e-mail I get. I care about the fake 'you have opted in' bullshit, and the fact most of the spammers nailing me DON'T honor remove requests. Those are the people giving legit mailers a bad rep. Unfortunately you are all going to be painted with the same brush, good or bad.

DeanCapture · 03-03-2003, 05:16 PM

Sharky - Sharky - Sharky - of course you are one of the good guys...I can vouch for that myself

In fact, I'm sure every spammer who reads this board would tell me that they are a legit spammer as well. Since I have no way of knowing who is a lying piece of shit and who isn't - I sometimes put all spammers into the same catagory. Now, this may not be the correct thing to do but hey - I never said I'm always right

One out of every 300 pieces of spam that I get (approx) comes with 'unsubscribe" instructions that ACTUALLY WORK. Not good odds if you ask me. Most of the spam I get is from people in the adult industry - so I know that my email address was harvested from these boards.

I have found that for the most part it does no good to complain to the spammers hosting company or the people who run the affiliate programs that they are spamming. Nobody wants to do anything about it. Hey, as long as the money keeps rolling in - everybody turns a blinds eye to spammers.

Hey, I'm just one man who is tired of the fucking bullshit. If I had the power to do something about it - I would. But until these fucking hosting companies and these affiliate boys start standing up to spammers - nothing is going to ever get done about this problem.

I've said enough about this spamming bullshit today. Hell, I've got to get some work done

Dean*

Sharky · 03-03-2003, 05:17 PM

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Originally posted by Backov
Sharky,

So you mail - do you send from your own hosts SMTP server, or one you've leased for that purpose? Who is the mail "from"? What is the "reply to"? What is the subject line? Do you use ADV:? Do you scrub people on the various states do-not-spam lists? Do you make any effort to fool spam filters?

Let's hear how responsible you are. Any one of those questions has the wrong answer, and I'm afraid to tell you that you're not a mailer, you're a spammer.

Yes.. I have my own SMTP server.. no relays/ no proxies. I own the server and color it.

Wrom: AFXISHJEXXIMQZUIV
reply to: [email protected]
subject: something that described my mail ADV:ADLT

Fool spam filters?? NO. why would i include ADV:ADLT if i am trying to fool them. of course I want max throughput... but why fool them.

As for the various state filters.. according to my attorney, as long as I include

1) valid return email to a domain I own
2) working 1-click remove link
3) ADV:ADLT in the subject line

I am good to go. I have spent the $$ and consulted my attorney to make sure I am within the laws!

Sharky · 03-03-2003, 05:18 PM

damn. that fucked my "from" text up. the from is an email address on a domain I own

Backov · 03-03-2003, 06:14 PM

Now if that's true, that's true responsible mailing. Unfortunately with all the scum out there it's hard to differentiate between the honest and the non.

I recently had to upgrade my SpamAssassin as the spammers use it to "tune" their spam to get past filters, so spam was getting through untagged. That's fucking ethical for ya. Those are the same spammers who will turn around and sell your web-bug confirmed email address to other spammers, and then sell the remove addresses to spammers they don't like - in short, scum.

EDIT: Oh, missed an important point. Sharky, I take it with your mailing the way you do, you don't need bulletproof hosting, do you? In fact, the only ones that should/would need it are SCUMMY SPAMMERS! - If you're ethical and responsible, why do you need bullet proof hosting, little spammers?

Cheers,
Jason

Sharky · 03-03-2003, 06:24 PM

the bullet proof hosting is used to protect the sponsors. I use landing pages myself, as there are always some people who complain without trying to unsubscribe (I don't doubt this is beacuse of the other mailers who refuse to remove those who wish to be). I want to protect my sponsors as they are the hand that feeds me. I link to an FPA on the landing page server which directs them to my sponsor. I still dont' hide who i am or where the email came from.. it's just adding a level of security for my sponsors.

Even companies like Join4Free/maxcash/4freebucks/etc have to deal with rediculous complaints from people who DOUBLE opted in to their lists. People get fed up with those guys who won't honor a remove and go on a rampage and complain about every adult email in their inbox, without thinking to unsubscribe or why they got it.

Sharky · 03-03-2003, 06:25 PM

And for the record.. there is no such thing as bullet proof hosting. maybe bullet- RESISTANT hosting!

hahah

02-19-2003, 02:15 PM	#1
Bulletproof Registered User Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 66	Mailing Solution/Bullet Proof Hosting I'd like to mention that we have some openings for new hosting clients for mail servers, bullet proof servers, and BP virtual accounts. All accounts can handle unlimited complaints. We haven't had any openings for a while, since we use a number of boxes to mail for ourselves, and our customers rarely leave. I apologize to the people on my icq who requested to be contacted when we started accepting new clients, I don't have time to dig through old icq logs. Just contact me again and I'll get you set up. We have made contacts with several providers allowing us to provide a wide range or services. Our flagship product is our in USA Bullet Proof webhosting. These sites are fast and furious with solid support. On your dedicated box you'll get 10 IPs which you can resell or use for yourself. You'll see upload transmission rates of 3.5mbps or better. We monitor each server and are paged within 15 minutes if it should fail. We guarantee 92% up time, if we don't provide it, we'll extend your subscription. These are premium solutions and price is not the main selling point of these servers. However, your uptime rates and the speed at which your site is served will increase your profits. You produce the traffic, and we'll have a page there for them. Your own dedicated server is $3,250.00/month, which gets you on a dual 1.4 AMD Athlon CPU's with 1 gigabyte of RAM. Our mail servers are in Amsterdam, and will send out over 10 million e-mails/day for you, as well as host your landing pages. All with the same guaranteed 92% uptime. The cost for a mail server is $4,850.00/month. We usually look for 6 month contracts for our mailing servers, but for the time being you can try one month before signing a long term contract. We monitor our sites with redundant third party tools with state of the art monitoring providers. We monitor each IP at least every 30 minutes and servers ever 15 minutes. If a site stops responding, alerts are sent to various key e-mail accounts at the provider level and employee pagers go off. We monitor all of our sites with third party software from Alertra.com. We strive to tell you the truth, even when it's hard. We will make mistakes and we will have some down time, when it's our fault, we will tell you and make compensation. If what I tell you cannot be believed, then I have nothing to sell you. There can be integrity in this business and this business can be conducted in a friendly manner. We will do both. We are not doing you a favor, you are our customer and you will be treated that way. I've seen far too many bullet proof providers that act like they are doing you a favor for taking your money. Not us. Contact me using the information in my sig if you'd like you discuss this with me further. __________________ Bullet Proof Hosting and Mailing Solutions 92% uptime Guarantee Paysite member, opt in, and general adult e-mail lists for sale Samples available E-mail: [email protected] ICQ: 190383365

02-19-2003, 02:17 PM	#2
Bulletproof Registered User Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 66	Also, if you don't have e-mails, we have lists that we will lease or sell. We have big adult general (spam) lists, adult opt in lists, and paysite member lists. We also send out opt in adult and casino mailings daily that you can buy ad space in. __________________ Bullet Proof Hosting and Mailing Solutions 92% uptime Guarantee Paysite member, opt in, and general adult e-mail lists for sale Samples available E-mail: [email protected] ICQ: 190383365

02-19-2003, 02:20 PM	#3
sextoyking Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Portland, OR. Posts: 6,034	We also setup Landing Page servers all the time for clients. our costs are a little diff. $700.00 per month thanks todd __________________ ICQ: 52344098 -------------------------------------- 50% Commissions on all Product Sales. http://www.wishing.com/money

02-19-2003, 05:40 PM	#5
Bulletproof Registered User Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 66	You got it Rich, check your e-mail. Sorry it took so long, I was busy talking to people who e-mailed and icq'd me. Thanks to everyone else who contacted me. We still have room for a couple more customers, so if you're interested get ahold of me. __________________ Bullet Proof Hosting and Mailing Solutions 92% uptime Guarantee Paysite member, opt in, and general adult e-mail lists for sale Samples available E-mail: [email protected] ICQ: 190383365

02-19-2003, 06:19 PM	#7
Lane Will code for food... Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Buckeye, AZ Posts: 8,496	remove me __________________

02-19-2003, 03:00 PM	#4
Rich So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 11,486	If your casino opt ins are really opt ins, we need to talk. :-) E-mail me your phone number and let's work something out. richard AT bigleaguebetting.com (BTW I'm too lazy to turn sigs on to get your contact info)

02-19-2003, 06:03 PM	#6
x582 Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: heh? Posts: 609

02-19-2003, 08:10 PM	#8
Bulletproof Registered User Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 66	Every one of our customers has to have a valid remove link, we can provide that for them if they need it. __________________ Bullet Proof Hosting and Mailing Solutions 92% uptime Guarantee Paysite member, opt in, and general adult e-mail lists for sale Samples available E-mail: [email protected] ICQ: 190383365

02-19-2003, 08:15 PM	#9
gothweb Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Back in the USSA Posts: 8,849	92% uptime kicks ass. Less than two hours of downtime per day. Awsome! __________________ Photos by Ian X.: Distinctive photos of goth babes. Blood Money:Your traffic, my sites, our money. MojoHost: Still the best.

02-19-2003, 08:34 PM	#11
X37375787 Guest Posts: n/a	I don't get why a higher uptime is an issue. Do the providers that allow spam have such shitty pipes?

03-03-2003, 11:10 AM	#12
Bulletproof Registered User Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 66	bumpity bump bump Thank you to all my new clients, I had no idea GFY had so many spammers. I still have room for 5 new mailing servers, so anyone who needs a reliable mailing solution, contact me. Feel free to contact me just about e-mail lists as well, I won't try to push the hosting on you or anything. I have paysite members, opt ins, and general adult spam lists. __________________ Bullet Proof Hosting and Mailing Solutions 92% uptime Guarantee Paysite member, opt in, and general adult e-mail lists for sale Samples available E-mail: [email protected] ICQ: 190383365 Last edited by Bulletproof; 03-03-2003 at 11:13 AM..

03-03-2003, 12:12 PM	#13
Rich So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 11,486	This guy is legit, he hooked me up with a nice stable server to do my casino newsletters from, and he's already got a bunch of major adult players mailing with him. FYI, I only sent e-mails people who have played at my casinos and requested e-mail notifications, I'm not a spammer so haters fuck off.

03-03-2003, 12:57 PM	#16
rpet Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: New York Posts: 537	Im interested... I also have many list for sale/and trade. One. Rpet __________________ sig too big

03-03-2003, 01:31 PM	#20
Bulletproof Registered User Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 66	All I'm saying is, no need to insult me because I help people spam. Even if you don't do it yourself, you know all the other big players with affiliate programs you know do. Come on now, don't act like it's ME behind all the web's spam. Supply and demand brother, I give the people what they need. __________________ Bullet Proof Hosting and Mailing Solutions 92% uptime Guarantee Paysite member, opt in, and general adult e-mail lists for sale Samples available E-mail: [email protected] ICQ: 190383365

03-03-2003, 02:12 PM	#24
DavePlays Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: West (by God) Virginia Posts: 1,088	Isn't this the same SPAM we get here about once a month? Yes... it is - and if I may offer the same reply..... You and all the fucking email spammers should have a server shoved up your sorry fucking asses. have a nice day __________________ THE BEST CONVERTING TGP If I were only going to submit to one TGP, it would be BOOK-MARK.NET.

03-03-2003, 02:34 PM	#27
Bulletproof Registered User Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 66	What % of the total signups in this industry are from spam? Care to venture a guess? Probably more than you anti-spammers think. Sorry guys, spam isn't hurting this industry, spam built this industry. You think all the fucking money spent at the conventions is to get TGP dollars? lol, open your eyes. There's a difference between legal, responsable spamming with a remove link, and hammering the same e-mail 10X a day with no way to remove. I am a responsible bulker, and so are all my clients. I guess we'll have to agree to disagree, have a nice life guys. __________________ Bullet Proof Hosting and Mailing Solutions 92% uptime Guarantee Paysite member, opt in, and general adult e-mail lists for sale Samples available E-mail: [email protected] ICQ: 190383365

03-03-2003, 02:51 PM	#31
cluck Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: New Jersey Posts: 5,248	Spam is definetly not doubling every 6 months. More and more people are dropping the bulking business because of filters and whatnot. If anything the opt-in business is growing because people can't figure out/afford to spam illegally anymore. Even as far as illegal spam goes, look at any resource site. I guarantee at least 50% of the top sponsors out there who are TOUGH on small spammers will make deals with people who can mail high volumes off stolen AOL accounts. When I used to spam I got offers from a whole bunch of major sponsors. I won't name them here, but they're the REAL big guys that every newbie uses or knows about. It's amazing how easy it is to get a whitelisted spam account with these guys if you can mail high volumes. __________________ icq 279990726 www.mcdonalds.com <- great money making opportunity

03-03-2003, 03:46 PM	#34
notion Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: el toro, ca. Posts: 293	All I have to say on the topic of spamming is: if there wasn't money behind spamming, spamming would stop. So instead of hating on the people that do spam, stop telling all your friends to click those friendly links that they get in their email everyday. __________________ sekz.

03-03-2003, 04:37 PM	#35
Sharky Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Tampa, FL Posts: 4,938	Did you wake up on the wrong side of the bed this morning Dean? :-)) __________________ Sharky

03-03-2003, 05:00 PM	#38
Sharky Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Tampa, FL Posts: 4,938	Family is doing very well Dean:-) Thanks for asking! Do you honestly think Spammers and Child pornographers deserve to be put in the same category? I certainly don't. There are PLENTY of mailer companies who mail the right way, abide by all laws and most importantly.. REMOVE YOU! There are a lot of shitty companies that DON'T do that.. those are the fuckers who should be burned. I mail.. I don't see anything wrong with it. I have a remove list of over 12,000,000 email addresses. These are people who have unsubscribed from one of my lists, or unsubscribed from a list of people I am close with. I scrub any new list I get with this list, and I add to it DAILY. I don't forge any info or hide my identity. My lists are mostly purchased (I do have some I collected myself) former paysite subscibers. You know me, I don't deserve to be locked into the group you mentioned:-) I know you were letting off steam.. Just thought I would give you my point of view! __________________ Sharky

03-03-2003, 05:04 PM	#40
Backov Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Cat Detector Van Posts: 1,600	Sharky, So you mail - do you send from your own hosts SMTP server, or one you've leased for that purpose? Who is the mail "from"? What is the "reply to"? What is the subject line? Do you use ADV:? Do you scrub people on the various states do-not-spam lists? Do you make any effort to fool spam filters? Let's hear how responsible you are. Any one of those questions has the wrong answer, and I'm afraid to tell you that you're not a mailer, you're a spammer. __________________ <embed src="http://banners.spotbrokers.com/button.swf" FlashVars="clickURL=http://banners.spotbrokers.com" quality=high pluginspage="http://www.macromedia.com/shockwave/download/index.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" width="120" height="60"></embed>

03-03-2003, 05:06 PM	#41
nocostporn Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Maryland Posts: 5,228	People have yet to realize this industry polices itself at this point... Once an outside force(the government) steps in,I really don't want to hear you people complaining "what do you do for a living?" ahh I'm an adult webmaster "so thats YOU the sends me all those mails?!"... Thats the response I get when I tell ANYBODY what I do for a living...what does that tell you? We're ALL spammers,we're ALL CP dealers...in the eyes of the people that matter sorry but I don't like being grouped with you homo's __________________ CashTheChecks.com -coming soon- "Exclusive sites for Exclusive Webmasters" ICQ-119966868,add me first don't message

03-03-2003, 05:16 PM	#43
DeanCapture Haters & Trolls SUCK! Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 9,275	Sharky - Sharky - Sharky - of course you are one of the good guys...I can vouch for that myself In fact, I'm sure every spammer who reads this board would tell me that they are a legit spammer as well. Since I have no way of knowing who is a lying piece of shit and who isn't - I sometimes put all spammers into the same catagory. Now, this may not be the correct thing to do but hey - I never said I'm always right One out of every 300 pieces of spam that I get (approx) comes with 'unsubscribe" instructions that ACTUALLY WORK. Not good odds if you ask me. Most of the spam I get is from people in the adult industry - so I know that my email address was harvested from these boards. I have found that for the most part it does no good to complain to the spammers hosting company or the people who run the affiliate programs that they are spamming. Nobody wants to do anything about it. Hey, as long as the money keeps rolling in - everybody turns a blinds eye to spammers. Hey, I'm just one man who is tired of the fucking bullshit. If I had the power to do something about it - I would. But until these fucking hosting companies and these affiliate boys start standing up to spammers - nothing is going to ever get done about this problem. I've said enough about this spamming bullshit today. Hell, I've got to get some work done Dean* __________________ Twitter: @DeanCapture Instagram: @TheDeanCapture DeanCapture "at" Gmail.com

03-03-2003, 05:18 PM	#45
Sharky Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Tampa, FL Posts: 4,938	damn. that fucked my "from" text up. the from is an email address on a domain I own __________________ Sharky

03-03-2003, 06:14 PM	#46
Backov Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Cat Detector Van Posts: 1,600	Now if that's true, that's true responsible mailing. Unfortunately with all the scum out there it's hard to differentiate between the honest and the non. I recently had to upgrade my SpamAssassin as the spammers use it to "tune" their spam to get past filters, so spam was getting through untagged. That's fucking ethical for ya. Those are the same spammers who will turn around and sell your web-bug confirmed email address to other spammers, and then sell the remove addresses to spammers they don't like - in short, scum. EDIT: Oh, missed an important point. Sharky, I take it with your mailing the way you do, you don't need bulletproof hosting, do you? In fact, the only ones that should/would need it are SCUMMY SPAMMERS! - If you're ethical and responsible, why do you need bullet proof hosting, little spammers? Cheers, Jason __________________ <embed src="http://banners.spotbrokers.com/button.swf" FlashVars="clickURL=http://banners.spotbrokers.com" quality=high pluginspage="http://www.macromedia.com/shockwave/download/index.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" width="120" height="60"></embed>

03-03-2003, 06:24 PM	#47
Sharky Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Tampa, FL Posts: 4,938	the bullet proof hosting is used to protect the sponsors. I use landing pages myself, as there are always some people who complain without trying to unsubscribe (I don't doubt this is beacuse of the other mailers who refuse to remove those who wish to be). I want to protect my sponsors as they are the hand that feeds me. I link to an FPA on the landing page server which directs them to my sponsor. I still dont' hide who i am or where the email came from.. it's just adding a level of security for my sponsors. Even companies like Join4Free/maxcash/4freebucks/etc have to deal with rediculous complaints from people who DOUBLE opted in to their lists. People get fed up with those guys who won't honor a remove and go on a rampage and complain about every adult email in their inbox, without thinking to unsubscribe or why they got it. __________________ Sharky

03-03-2003, 06:25 PM	#48
Sharky Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Tampa, FL Posts: 4,938	And for the record.. there is no such thing as bullet proof hosting. maybe bullet- RESISTANT hosting! hahah __________________ Sharky