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Old 01-10-2013, 09:06 AM   #51
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Old 01-10-2013, 09:20 AM   #52
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So... you don't care if a lot of people get killed; just as long as they aren't killed by guns... I mean, that's basically what you're saying. Of course England has less gun deaths... and of course you'd ignore the facts on their non firearm related crime stats... of course.
Your right! No need to discuss gun deaths, let's just talk homicides instead.

US: 4.8
UK: 1.2

These are homicides per 100k. Meaning, for everyone 100k US citizens 4.8 of them are murdered - be it by firearms, knives, baseball bats, hammers, sneakers, whatever. In the UK, 1.2 people out of every 100k are murdered. So the UK has one fourth the amount of homicides the US has every year. (source)

(Wow, sort that list by rate and see which countries have the worst homicide rate! That's some scary shit right there!)
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Old 01-10-2013, 08:58 PM   #53
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I'm not an Obama supporter. I didn't vote for him and I think he has been pretty disappointing as a president. That said, I think it didn't matter who got elected, the congress is so gridlocked with partisan crap that little would have have gotten done no matter what.

Still, it doesn't change my opinion. You might not hate him because he is black, fine. That's great. But I can assure you there are plenty of people who do. I'm not saying it is everyone, but I think there is a decent number of people who hate him because he is black or because they think he is a Muslim or both.
Good job kane you have won the racecard of the day for biggest racebater on GFY.
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I think for a lot of these very anti-Obama people there is a deep seeded fear of him. It might not be racism (although I am sure there is a good amount of that as well), but it is something. My uncle, who for the most part I consider to be a smart guy, believes to his core that Obama is a Muslim. You can't convince him otherwise. CBS did a poll about six months ago that showed about 17% of all people in the US and 34% of those who identify as conservative believe he is a Muslim.

That is not something they had with Clinton. The far right hated Clinton because he was a liberal. They hate Obama because he is a liberal and they think he is a Muslim. Now they think he is the liberal Mulsim who is going to take away all of their guns.
Yup. That's what I'm sayin'.
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Can you show me where Obama said he would never limit the types of guns people can have? I have found several quotes from him going back to 2008 where he says things like, " We can have reasonable, thoughtful gun control measure that I think respect the Second Amendment and people?s traditions." and " I have always believed that the Second Amendment protects the right of individuals to bear arms, but I also identify with the need for crime-ravaged communities to save their children from the violence that plagues our streets through common-sense, effective safety measures." Here is another from 2008, "At the time, Obama said, ?I also believe that we have to make guns in this country childproof ... I support making the expired Federal Assault Weapons Ban permanent. I believe that these weapons, such as AK-47s, belong on foreign battlefields and not on our streets. These are also not weapons that are used by hunters, sportsmen, and sportswomen.?

Just show me where he said he would never take any kind of guns away.

Read more: http://thehill.com/homenews/administ...#ixzz2HYwHw13G

I do think there are many pro-gun people who hate Obama because of his moves now to potentially limit access to some types of guns, but I also think there is a good section of the conservatives that hate him because he is black, liberal and they think he is a Muslim.

Also, you are blowing things out of proportion.

First, there is not going to be a time when the police come to your door and demand you give them all your guns. It just isn't going to happen so calm down. Second, how many guns a person owns personally and what type of guns those are have had zero affect on the outcome of major US war in well over 100 years.

I am not for gun control, but I'm also not someone who is coming undone thinking they about to lose every gun they could ever own and the government is about to enact military law and we are going to have fight back.
You must have a real low iq, this is the first result google spits out:
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from Sep 9, 2008, while Obama was campaigning in Virginia, in which he stated he believed in the 2nd amendment and would not take American?s guns away:

?I just want to be absolutely clear, alright? So, I don?t want any misunderstanding when y?all go home and you?re talking to your buddies and say, ?Ah, he wants to take my gun away.? You?ve heard it here. I?m on television, so everybody knows it. I believe in the second amendment. I believe in people?s lawful right to bear arms. I will not take your shotgun away. I will not take your rifle away. I won?t take your handgun away.?

You seem not to understand what i was pointing out.
First you have to register your guns.
Once they are registerd you may only keep them in a government approved gunsave bolted onto a concrete wall in your house.
Only you can open it if someone else can your guns are illegal and will be taken away.

How about you drive to your girlfriend and are stopped on the side of the road by a cop, you are arested because a database shows you have bought a gun in your life but never registered it. Now you get jailed for many years for having access to illegal weapons.

Aparently you do not know how government works.
Government never ever thinks "So now everything is perfect now we can sit back and relax."

after they take semi automatic weapons(80% of the weapons in usa) there will be an other shooting with many deaths. The government will then take the next weapons shotguns or pistols or single shot rifles.

They will never stop and think the homicide levels are ok. They will always try to take the next weapon.

In holland slingshots are forbidden, most knifes are forbidden, crossbows are forbidden, pepperspray is classified as a millitary weapon and can get you put in prison for many many years.

Not all the guns you say!
How about all the guns and your knifes and your right to defend yourself.

Sure in the law it is possible to have a gun, after it is registerred bullets counted and inspected yearly by the cops in your home if it is locked in a gunsave bolted to a concrete wall.

Oh and having an armed population stopped many countries from being occupied just in last decade see Iraq and Afghanistan.
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The fact of the matter is this: Obama was just as unqualified and inexperienced to get elected president as that failure in life george dubya was.
Horse-fucking-shit!

Barak Obama isn't functionally illiterate. He can speak in complete sentences that don't embarrass America. He isn't a drunk. He didn't go AWOL. He was a US Senator. He was a professor of Constitutional law at the finest school in the country. He was a community organizer. He's a very smart man that could have gone to work for any law firm in the nation. He didn't grow up sucking on a silver spoon - he was able to work his way up because he has a brain.

If it weren't for his last name, Dubya would probably be an assistant manager in training at Denny's. And on probation.

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Good job kane you have won the racecard of the day for biggest racebater on GFY.
How exactly is it race baiting to point out the obvious race aspect of a certain portion of anti-obama people?

Where exactly do you think some of those numbskulls got their marching orders from? Yeah, some of them are die-hard bigots, but many right-wing screamers have been subtly race-baiting since before Count Blackenstein even got into office. In fact, it's been part of their gig from day 1.
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You seem not to understand what i was pointing out.
First you have to register your guns.
Once they are registerd you may only keep them in a government approved gunsave bolted onto a concrete wall in your house.
Only you can open it if someone else can your guns are illegal and will be taken away.

How about you drive to your girlfriend and are stopped on the side of the road by a cop, you are arested because a database shows you have bought a gun in your life but never registered it. Now you get jailed for many years for having access to illegal weapons.

Aparently you do not know how government works.
Government never ever thinks "So now everything is perfect now we can sit back and relax."

after they take semi automatic weapons(80% of the weapons in usa) there will be an other shooting with many deaths. The government will then take the next weapons shotguns or pistols or single shot rifles.

They will never stop and think the homicide levels are ok. They will always try to take the next weapon.

In holland slingshots are forbidden, most knifes are forbidden, crossbows are forbidden, pepperspray is classified as a millitary weapon and can get you put in prison for many many years.

Not all the guns you say!
How about all the guns and your knifes and your right to defend yourself.

Sure in the law it is possible to have a gun, after it is registerred bullets counted and inspected yearly by the cops in your home if it is locked in a gunsave bolted to a concrete wall.

Oh and having an armed population stopped many countries from being occupied just in last decade see Iraq and Afghanistan.

Dude, you're a paranoid gun nut. Your mind is full of fear and ridiculous fantasies. Live in the real world - one in which 20 pre-schoolers were turned into hamburger by a man with legally purchased weapons of mass death. STOP worrying about "government takeover"! It's not just dumb anymore! It's fucking getting old!

You're also retarded if you think you could buy enough firepower to hold off the US military anyway.

For fuck's sake.
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You seem not to understand what i was pointing out.
First you have to register your guns.
Once they are registerd you may only keep them in a government approved gunsave bolted onto a concrete wall in your house.
Only you can open it if someone else can your guns are illegal and will be taken away.
This is absolutely not the law. I don't know where you are getting this, but it is not the law. If you think this is going to be the new law, you are only speculating because nobody knows what they might be proposing much less passing.

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How about you drive to your girlfriend and are stopped on the side of the road by a cop, you are arested because a database shows you have bought a gun in your life but never registered it. Now you get jailed for many years for having access to illegal weapons.

Aparently you do not know how government works.
Government never ever thinks "So now everything is perfect now we can sit back and relax."
Again, this is not the law and again this is just your paranoia getting the better of you. I am well aware of how the government works and a law that works in the way you describe it here has about as much chance of passing and being enacted as I do of growing a 18 inch cock and using it to pound nails.

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after they take semi automatic weapons(80% of the weapons in usa) there will be an other shooting with many deaths. The government will then take the next weapons shotguns or pistols or single shot rifles.

They will never stop and think the homicide levels are ok. They will always try to take the next weapon.
I don't doubt that they will try to limit access to assault weapons. For 10 years there was an assault weapons ban in this country. During that 10 year period they did not try to limit ownership or ban other types of guns so again you just pulling shit out your ass.

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In holland slingshots are forbidden, most knifes are forbidden, crossbows are forbidden, pepperspray is classified as a millitary weapon and can get you put in prison for many many years.
This isn't Holland.

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Not all the guns you say!
How about all the guns and your knifes and your right to defend yourself.

Sure in the law it is possible to have a gun, after it is registerred bullets counted and inspected yearly by the cops in your home if it is locked in a gunsave bolted to a concrete wall.

Oh and having an armed population stopped many countries from being occupied just in last decade see Iraq and Afghanistan.
Again, what is this law you keep referring to? It isn't one that exists. It is one you have made up in your head.
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I don't doubt that they will try to limit access to assault weapons. For 10 years there was an assault weapons ban in this country. During that 10 year period they did not try to limit ownership or ban other types of guns so again you just pulling shit out your ass.
Exactly.

Hey gun nuts: Why didn't the government take over during those ten years? They had a golden opportunity, right?

To a gun nut, banning the sale of high capacity clips = taking away our guns.

I don't feel any safer knowing I can buy one of these:

I wouldn't feel any more vulnerable if I couldn't.

I guess that's because I'm a real man, with a healthy brain, and a big dick.

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Yup. That's what I'm sayin'.
And Obama isnt even a liberal. He is right of Nixon.
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Mexico: Total gun ban, highest crime rate in the world

Switzerland: Gun rich, has lowest crime rate in Europe

England: Gun ban, highest crime rate in Europe

America: ???
The United Kingdom has one of the lowest rates of gun homicides in the world with 0.07 recorded intentional homicides committed with a firearm per 100,000
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The United Kingdom has one of the lowest rates of gun homicides in the world with 0.07 recorded intentional homicides committed with a firearm per 100,000
1. of course, they have a gun ban

2. was just listing what I gathered from the vid, I can't stand Alex Jones

On another note, just to set the record straight to the anti-gun-nuts, im not a gun nut. Don't even own a gun right now. I just believe in our right to bear arms and view the anti-gun-nuts as loony as the gun-nuts.
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And Obama isnt even a liberal. He is right of Nixon.
Not sure I'd say he "right of" Nixon, but I hear you.

Every Democrat is a "liberal" or a "socialist" in the words of the right wing corporate noise machine. It's fucking stupid.

Obama is very much a centrist. He's no "radical" lefty. He's a very smart man, though, and maybe he's just being cautious and he's going about progress slowly (which is better than not at all).

I'm not really sure. Sometimes I think he's progressive, other times I think he's GOP - light.

We have to push him.
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im not a gun nut. Don't even own a gun right now. I just believe in our right to bear arms and view the anti-gun-nuts as loony as the gun-nuts.
Without limits? Should anyone be able to get any deadly weapon they wish? If you say "yes" - you're a gun nut.
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Without limits? Should anyone be able to get any deadly weapon they wish? If you say "yes" - you're a gun nut.
Nope, I've said numerous times, IMHO, your average joe has no need for an assault riffle or any kind of fully auto. But shotguns, handguns, hunting riffles and all that is aight with me tho
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Nope, I've said numerous times, IMHO, your average joe has no need for an assault riffle or any kind of fully auto. But shotguns, handguns, hunting riffles and all that is aight with me tho
Agreed.

Gun nuts, however, see things in absolutes. They can't understand limits. Suggesting that machine guns should not be available for sale, or that high-capacity clips should be banned, is the same as "taking our guns away". Then they rant about auto accidents or starvation or some such shit.
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Mexico: Total gun ban, highest crime rate in the world
Because of drugs and sharing a land border with a country that has liberal gun laws.

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Switzerland: Gun rich, has lowest crime rate in Europe
Not true.

http://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/swiss_ne...cid =31023508

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England: Gun ban, highest crime rate in Europe
Bullshit again. That story was the Tories playing politics again.

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk-ha...e-6746864.html

Look at the figures - Moldova, Lithuania and Estonia beat us. AFAIK you can buy guns in those countries.

I'm not even against guns. I think you should be allowed to buy firearms and I agree with the second amendment on the principle that goverment should be exist to regulate these kind of decisions. That said it's hard to defend so people resort to pointing to other countries and stating that gun control doesn't work.

The fact is. It does.
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