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" Here's Why Someone Would Need To Own An 'Assault' Rifle

Posted 12/28/2012 06:57 PM ET

Guns: The left keeps asking why anyone needs an "assault" rifle. Here's one reason ? in 2010, a Texas teen used a rifle similar to the one used in Newtown to defend his younger sister and himself from home invaders.


The left quite often exposes its raging elitism through its odious habit of asking why anyone would need the things that it doesn't like, from guns to big homes to monster trucks.

The implication is that if the elitists don't want whatever it is, then no one should be allowed to have it ? except, of course, it's fine for the elitists themselves to live in energy-sucking mansions, hire armed bodyguards and drive around in gas-guzzling limousines and SUVs.

When the left asks these questions it also reveals its blinding ignorance. Is there a single Democrat, dense celebrity or condescending journalist who is aware that "assault" rifles don't just define their owners as red necks but also serve as practical protection?

Actually the total amount of what they don't know about firearms and crime is enough to crush them.

Consider that, according to FBI data, in 2007, there were 453 homicides by rifle in the U.S. Yes, that's too many. But compare that number to a few other methods of homicide employed that year.

In 2007, there were 1,817 homicides committed with "knives or cutting instruments"; "blunt objects (clubs, hammers, etc.)" killed 674; while "personal weapons (hands, fists, feet, etc.)" were the choices in 869 homicides.

The number of rifle homicides has fallen steadily since then to 323 last year, as have the other three weapon classes, though each still remains a more common choice than the rifle.

In fact, when added together, knives, blunt instruments and the human body were responsible for more than nine times as many homicides as rifles in 2011.

Yet no one is asking why anyone would want to own a set of steak knives, place a heavy candelabra on their mantle or have a hammer in their garage.

The weapon used effectively as protection by the Texas teen was neither a club nor a fist but reportedly an AR-15, a rifle on which the .223-caliber Bushmaster used in the tragic Sandy Hook shootings was modeled.

Though tagged "assault" weapons, both are merely semi-automatics, just as are many hunting rifles, and all but a handful are used legally and peacefully.

But elitists on the left don't hunt ? they let someone else do their killing ? so how could they know?

None of this is intended to minimize the tragedy at Sandy Hook Elementary or any other mass shooting.

It's simply an attempt to point out that a screaming obsession over one particular weapon used less frequently to kill than knives is driven by ignorance, arrogance and a nonexistent sense of proportion."

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Grapesoda

I've always felt like this was the case with the political type... I had even heard at one point Obama wanted gm to dump the vette and focus small fuel efficient cars... like it's okay for Obama to have cool shit, fly to Hawaii for vacation on a private jet and I have to work 100 hours a week to supply benefits for all the guys kickin' it on the couch watchin the big screen I paid for, support their kids etc...

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tony286

yep that $200 to $400 a month and a couple of hundred in food stamps they are living the good life. Also welfare is a very very small part of spending.

sarettah

You, Marion, are a fucking idiot.

And you are pretty much just as fucking stupid.


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v4 media

Could he not have shot with with a normal pistol?

Verbal

Please don't pollute this thread with common sense. Thank you!

keysync

Wrong.... No assault rifle was used in that shooting. Only handguns... Stop watching TV.

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PornMD

Let's all own tanks for self defense while we're at it. You never know when an army of robbers is going to come after you.

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Joshua G

home defense can be accomplished with guns that are not as lethal as AR-15s. the reason spree shooters love the AR is the high capacity clips, coupled with hollow point 223 rounds with the extra gunpowder. this combo is highly lethal & efficient at hitting hi numbers of targets in mere seconds. this kill capacity is great for military use, but is likely overkill in a home defense situation. after all, criminals typically dont invade homes with a team full of people. the ending from scarface is somewhat exceptional.

Rochard

Why wouldn't you use a handgun?

And why are people so concerned about home defense? I'm 44 and my house has never been broken into.

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Donny

It's simple, really:

We don't buy insurance for things that happen regularly... we buy insurance for things that are unlikely, but potentially devastating.

Same with guns.

Grapesoda

I can see that you have well organized analytical mind by the quality of your well balanced intellectual argument...

Grapesoda

not so very sure... free food, housing, medical... the worst issue most of these people have is living near each other and that's not caused by anyone other then by themselves Tony.

I know not very many people would go through what I have to go through to earn what I earn and live where I live.

Grapesoda

I think a shotgun is a great weapon for home defense. however I picked up a 1911 because I wanted a powerful low velocity projectile, I didn't get a long gun because of the confined space to work in.

Donny

I don't know why everyone says a shotgun is such a great defense weapon. Sure, it can be in certain situations, but in others it would be horrible. For example: if some bumbling idiot breaks into a person's house and grabs one of your kids so that you won't shoot him, a shotgun would not be a good weapon, whereas a handgun or a highly accurate AR-15 might still safely be able to subdue him without hitting your kid.

sarettah

Your post did not deserve any more intelligence than that.


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Matt 26z

Statistically speaking you are better off not confronting an armed home invader with your own gun. If you don't, there is a very low chance of being shot. If you do come running out wirh a gun, that greatly increases the odds of being shot.

mechanicvirus

I'm laughing out loud at the thought of fat sweaty gfy nerds struggling to grasp whats going on around them while their sweaty hands slip off the trigger and competely miss this so called robber, who ends up taking everyone because of a fumbling average gfy retard. Yea, give those guys guns.

Elli

1) Sure looks to me like the Texas Teen lived in a nice subdivision and his family drove SUVs, living in an energy-sucking mansion. (https://youtube.com/watch?v=j-q2zHIovOE) Are you saying this poor Texas Teen was defending a tin shack in the bottoms with his only means of self defense while his daddy was out working in the coal mines?

2) Why is everything "left" or "right?" Can't we talk about the actual issue without painting people into corners?

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Markul

You guys talk to much about guns. Join the army or something.

topnotch, standup guy

Rock and a hard place.

Try buying homeowners insurance after your house has been robbed "too many" times.

There's no one size fits all answer here.

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Rochard

If your house has been broken into more than once, you need to take a good look at your life and figure out where you went wrong.

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BlackCrayon

no one who cares about their kid would take that risk. especially some amateur in such a high pressure situation. get real.

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dgraves

Assault rifles aren't the best choice for home defense. Shotguns work the best because you don't have to worry about penetrating walls and accidentally hitting someone in another room or even outside your home.

Assault rifles are mainly for fun.

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AdultPornMasta

True dat!

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Dirty F

Every day the gun nuts do everything they can to show how tiny their brain is. Unbelievable.

topnotch, standup guy

Bullshit.

When the local punk needs cash to score more oxycontin, he doesn't assess his neighbors life histories before deciding which one to rob.

But if he knows the odds are uncomfortably high that he'll get his worthless carcass filled with lead should he break into any neighborhood house, he's rather more likely to seek the funds elsewhere.

And from a homeowner's perspective, that's the way it should be.

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I guess you would need to own an assault rifle if you were a senior citizen living in Kansas that made a career out of scamming people, and you were terrified of that eventual knock coming on your front door...

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crockett

They have no real argument, hence the reason why they bring up completely irrelevant things into an argument about guns..


I mean really what does being so called elite, having a mansion, or a gas guzzling SUV have to do with people owning assault rifles.

They have to try and make it a right vs left thing in order to try to make it seem like some evil socialist conspiracy is trying to take away their gun. Meanwhile you will never hear them actually support not a gun ban but instead toughing up the laws when it comes to guns being used in crime.

Simply put the right wing has once again been used as a puppet, in yet another issue that shouldn't even be about politics. They have been once again duped into taking up the guard for the multi-billion dollar gun industry.

This isn't about rights, it never has been, it's about nothing more than protecting the multi billion dollar gun industry and their profits.

brassmonkey

what about the numbers?? the majority follow the law. so punish the lawful citizens??? ban alcoholic beverages again because drunk drivers are killing people and its steady killing

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dgraves

Better yet, if the government gave two shits about saving lives then they would ban cigarettes. Talk about something that is designed to kill people.

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beerptrol

I figure if I can't hit what I'm shooting at with either a handgun or shotgun, I probably shouldn't own a gun.

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dgraves

Most gun owners know that AR's don't serve any useful purpose other than pimping out with all kinds of accessories. It's just something that's fun to do.

The 5.56 round is for varmints, not people. The main reason why the military uses it is due to weight. the 7.62 is much more effective but there's a pretty big difference in the weight of the rifle and ammo. You wouldn't be happy humping that thing 10 miles but when you had to use it you would be glad you did.

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atom

actually the round was designed to injury enemy soldiers thus causing more resources used by the enemy having to remove their wounded from the battlefield.

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Rochard

You missed my point. If you live in an area where there are a lot of people who yearn for oxycontin, you need to re-evaluate your life and figure out why you live in an area there are such problems. I'm not saying my hometown doesn't have this problem, but I am saying it's not such a huge problem the the general population here doesn't live in fear of their house being broken into.

I'm forty-four years old and not once have I ever had my house or car broken into, nor do I feel the need to fortify my house with assault rifles. I have locks on the door and an alarm system and my local police has a response time of less than a minute or so.

If you feel you need to protect fear into potential criminals to prevent them from breaking into your house, then you've already failed.

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PornoMonster

Many rich nice neighborhoods get broken into, that is where the money is.
2-3 days before Christmas in my town, Many Many cars are broken into ALL Over the town. They know most people store Christmas presents in them to hide from the kids.

I do not believe in protecting your car with violence, just saying!
But If I do go out to scare them off, and things get out of control, Yep.

So where you Live has nothing to do with it .... Robin Hood! HA

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dgraves

That's also an effective strategy.

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dgraves

Asking someone why they "need" something is pointless. We're in the business of "want", not "need". We "want" guns because they are cool and if you don't like guns then you'll never get it. My wife doesn't need 500 pairs of shoes but I do my best to understand her wanting them. Fortunately she's into guns to so she enjoys shopping at the gun club almost as much as I do.

I have buddies who spend tens of thousands of dollars fixing up old cars when they can buy a new one. It's not my thing and I'll never get it but I can relate to it and I never make them feel stupid about what they are passionate about.

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brassmonkey

exactly! take a gander http://www.craigerscinemacorner.com/...or_smoking.htm

In terms of modern day scourges that kill people on an annual basis, nothing can top cigarettes.

Sure, alcohol is a terrible cause of fatalities every year, but their numbers are relatively small compared to tobacco (approximately 80-100,000 deaths per year in the US).

What about say?guns? A paltry number, if statistics mean anything. Firearm related deaths only account for about 11,000 deaths per year in the US.

its smoke and mirrors


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tony286

You watch too many movies. Lol

dgraves

The government doesn't care about killing someone slowly, you just can't do it quickly.

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brassmonkey

lung cancer is a bitch. its a terrible way to go.

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topnotch, standup guy

I live in a pretty nice neighborhood actually and what I described isn't a 365 day 24/7 problem, but it's a big problem.

The punk of which I speak has in fact been caught several times, but his family keeps bailing his worthless ass out. And with the court backlog being what it is, it's always a year or more before shitheads like him are finally incarcerated for their second or third offense (the first offenses never seem to count).

Then.. by the time that whole charade plays out, you have a carbon copy, or three, of the same piece-of-shit roaming the same fucking neighborhoods.

It's a never ending cycle.

Were it not for the thieve's fear of eating a bullet, the whole situation would be a hundred times worse and homeowners insurance would be literally unobtainable.

Then again, maybe things are different in California ;)

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Grapesoda

not for me, I would be very hesitant to shoot someone holding my kid... I don't practice shooting everyday and it wouldn't be like a tv show

Shotsie

Smoking cigarettes kills those people who choose to smoke them. Same thing with alcohol. Sorry, but your analogies are fucking retarded. How are you gonna kill someone with a cigarette, flick it in their bed while they're sleeping?

The abuse of firearms kills other people - most recently a shitload of little kids - who never do anything to opt into that abusive and destructive behavior.

Other differences could follow, but that one alone is so profound that there isn?t enough left of your analogy to proceed in any serious fashion.

Grapesoda

someone came into my place in the middle of the night and I didn't pull my gun out... but I did confront the guy and make them leave. there is a time and place for gun and nothing else will do the job. just because someone owns a gun doesn't mean they will pull it out and wave it around. there seems to be a lot of random chatter by people not even involved in the situation.

how about this: the government make you give up your mustang because people are getting killed in fast cars? then a bunch of dipshits on porn forum get busy bashing America and fast cars while a bunch or other dipshits that have never even driven a fucking car suddenly know all about it?

brassmonkey

think about it. second hand smoke can you understand that???? abuse of firearms go's back to their family issues. go back and read about the shooters.

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Shotsie

And it will continue to be a never ending cycle as long as drug addiction is treated as a criminal issue instead of a public health issue.

Just hope that it ain't your kids one day.

crockett

Speaking as someone whom has had his car & house broken into I can say in neither situation would a gun have served any purpose. The reason? I wasn't home.

I didn't live in a bad area but my house was somewhat isolated, meaning I had woods on 4 sides and while there were houses around they weren't close enough for someone to notice anything.

A gun would'n't have stopped my home/car from getting broken into, but better lighting and a alarm likely would have.

Most thieves will avoid the chance of confrontation as they are just looking for a quick score in most cases and will almost always attempt to steal only if there is no one around.

In my case I was a likely target because at the time I had a floor cleaning business and was gone most nights. The people that broke into my house knew this as they knew my schedule.

This is the case in most situations despiste what your average wanna be Rambo loves to shout about. 99% of the time they already know you aren't home if they are targeting your house.

The point being the whole non sense about needing an AK47 or M16 to safe guard ones house is pretty much major over reaction. Home invasions are very very rare when someone is at home. A shotgun or a handgun is more than enough to protect one's home, the whole non sense about assault rifles is just a bunch of wanna be rambos that want to play giJoe..

The shotgun is likely the "BEST" by far because it's unlikely to kill one of your family members in an adjacent room or neighbors next door, due to bullet penetration. In fact I'd go as far as saying for the above mention reason of bullet penetration anyone whom uses the excuse of needing an assault rifle for home protection is a careless and irresponsible gun owner.