Originally Posted by _Richard_ (Post 19409186)

but you pay taxes

which supports rape

so..

Originally Posted by pornmasta (Post 19408927)

link ?

8 char

Originally Posted by EddyTheDog (Post 19409200)

so.. She can't pick and choose what her taxes pay for.

Now there's an idea!

Originally Posted by Poppy (Post 19409209)

Originally Posted by _Richard_ (Post 19409186)

but you pay taxes

which supports rape

so..

Originally Posted by _Richard_ (Post 19409214)

seriously lol

im not speaking from any moral high ground obviously.. i pay taxes which in turn pays for 'reconstruction projects' which in turn pay for mercenaries whom in turn do whatever they want

however, i CAN choose to make a certain amount of money and pay a certain amount of taxes blah blah

Originally Posted by EddyTheDog (Post 19409255)

I think we may be talking at cross purposes - You can't possibly mean what I thought you meant....

Originally Posted by pornmasta (Post 19407484)

so this means death penalty for minor ?

be careful, if you try to be too severe with them, they will have nothing to lose.
Here, in my country it's illegal to disclose the name of minor offenders (because they are minors !)

I'm not sure if it's a good thing to publish their names.
Well yes, they published the photo of the girl after she raped her (with a finger, not with a dick, for me it makes a difference) so perhaps they deserve it.
But if you want to destroy their life, they could just take a gun (or a knife) and start to kill people to avenge themselves from the society.

If the victim is ready to show her image:
http://jezebel.com/5967151/teenage-g...sexual-assault
then she is probably not so destroyed/ashamed as we could think she is.
Remember, that she was unconscious, when it happened. Probably anesthetized with alcohol.

What they did, is that they destroyed her image, so i think it's a little harsh to want that they die for that.

question: is it illegal to drink alcohol when you are not 18, in the USA ?
The victim did something that she knews she shouldn't do and other minors used it to rape her, so it's not exactly the same thing as raping some woman in the street with the use of a weapon.

answer:
http://partysmart.osu.edu/ohio_laws.asp
she needed to be 21, she was 16 and she was drunk at the point to be knocked out.

I'm waiting that captain anonymous starts to hack CCTV and watches who gets raped in the streets + photos of the criminals (doxzzzz !).
Wait a moment, our avengers are against this kind of technologies...

The guys of anonymous should just continues to watch they tv series thanks to piratebay or do like what they do when they attack the mexican mafia: shit in their pants when they deal with someone else that other stupid kids...

Originally Posted by Sarah_Jayne (Post 19409248)

Okay then.

Originally Posted by _Richard_ (Post 19409259)

what did you think i mean?

Originally Posted by EddyTheDog (Post 19409270)

It sounds like you are saying that if someone decides they do not like it they can pay less tax by 'earning less' and not supporting the government?

I must have got what you are saying wrong.

Originally Posted by _Richard_ (Post 19409281)

no that's what i said

game is up however if i ever want kids lol

i suppose there is always offshore

Originally Posted by EddyTheDog (Post 19409290)

Did I ever tell you that you look just like my friend Jason?....

I had a bit of a crush on him so you should be flattered.

Assuming that is you in the avatar...

Originally Posted by kane (Post 19409260)

Your logic is about 99 kinds of messed up.

First, the girl was drinking and breaking the law in doing so. That does not mean she deserves to be raped. Two wrongs do not make a right.

Originally Posted by kane (Post 19409260)

Second, we make fun of prison rape in many cases as a form of a warning for those who might commit a crime or as a form of justice against those who have committed a terrible crime. The saying is that eventually you reap what you sow. If you commit a terrible crime you might find yourself in prison getting raped.

Originally Posted by kane (Post 19409260)

In the town I grew up in there was a big case a few years back when several members of the guy's high school basketball team used a broom handle to rape two other team members while on the bus ride home from a game. This was a form of "hazing". I can assure you nobody was laughing.

Originally Posted by kane (Post 19409260)

It has already been proven that the girl in the link you provided is not the girl in this case,

Originally Posted by kane (Post 19409260)

but even if it were, her going public does not mean it hasn't damaged her nor does it mean that her attackers deserve a lighter sentence.

Originally Posted by kane (Post 19409260)

Rape often fucks people up for life and damages them to the point where having healthy, normal relationships is very difficult.

Originally Posted by kane (Post 19409260)

It is not a crime that takes place and then is done once the act ends, it lingers and its damage can be felt for years and years and years. If someone has the courage to step forward and say they were the victim and put a face to the crime this does not mean that those who perpetrated the crime deserve a lesser sentence.

Originally Posted by kane (Post 19409260)

So I ask you what is the acceptable level of punishment for someone who does something to you that may very well psychologically damage you for life and if not life for many years to come?

Originally Posted by _Richard_ (Post 19409263)

isn't that a big thing in the states?

'go to prison get raped'

and then there is funny laws where people go to jail for 10+ years for having a bag of weed

so when you say 'when has people of any merit said it;'s ok to rape men'

have you ever heard someone joke about going to jail and getting raped? perhaps been in their company?

Originally Posted by Sarah_Jayne (Post 19409396)

Whilst I suppose I follow the logic, I can't really see how it is supported. So, by paying my taxes I am supporting rape. Maybe of my pocket. That would be perhaps valid if not paying taxes without ending up in jail yourself was a real option.

Obviously, I have heard those jokes. Do I think that anybody of any real disposition feels that rape of any kind is okay? Not really.

Originally Posted by Bill8 (Post 19409497)

The fact that we americans tolerate both prison rape and jokes and threats about prison rape is one of the signs of how sick we have become as a society.

The prison-industrial complex, and especially the drug war, has corrupted cops, courts, the media, TV and movies, and the american mind.

But using the fact that we are sick enough as a nation to joke about prison rape, as a defense and reason for shaming a girl who was drugged and raped is even sicker.

It's not easy to get the logic behind that kind of thing - but, it's common logic, and there are big sectors of the population that are going to blame the girl and say almost anything to excuse her rapists and the sherrif, the prosecutor, the coaches, and the school for covering it up.

And that also shows how sick modern society has become.

Originally Posted by Bill8 (Post 19409497)

The fact that we americans tolerate both prison rape and jokes and threats about prison rape is one of the signs of how sick we have become as a society.

Originally Posted by Bill8 (Post 19409497)

And that also shows how sick modern society has become.

Originally Posted by sarettah (Post 19409513)

in the past, victims of rape were often considered to be the cause of the rape because of how they dressed, or acted, or what they said, or any other number of reasons that would cause a man to lose control and rape her.

.

Originally Posted by pornmasta (Post 19409391)

first: i made a mistake with the girl.
Then, i don't say the opposite.
In fact it's like a burglary: of course, it's illegal but if you leave your door open or if you made something that contribute to make it possible, for me it attenuates the fault because it just easier to do.


absolutely not, it's a way to destroy people, while people who are doing it find convenient to think it's fun.
you need a link ?
http://www.salon.com/2012/06/25/brad...ul_rape_jokes/
With women, it's usually for pleasure (there is some exceptions)


because that story went public...



yes i know, i made a mistake.


People tend to forget their rape, because it's hard to handle, so these one want to avoid this idea. If they become depressive, they want to avoid relationships. What is left ?
people that are not too destroyed (now)
But, when you are recognized as a raped woman you have this label... good luck.
I add that when people see that you are ok, they start to think that you could lie.


You copied and paste what you read on the subject. I read the same thing.


do you realize, that you instill a kind of pressure that could suggest to a victim that her fate is to be destroyed slowly ?

Also, as i wrote before, i thought that she was in a kind of ethylic coma (i supposed that she drank too much), that they stripped her and finger her (this is what i understood). Now i'll tell you: a rape is not a kind of black magic with which you can destroy people: you have to figure out what happens. I just doubt it is the case if you are in an ethylic coma.
Again, i don't wrote that it was something to do, i wrote that it's not a same level of gravity that raping a woman in a bus (with 10 assholes who watch without doing something) with the help of a weapon.
I find that there is several level of gravity for a given crime and i found that the fact to finger a girl in an ethylic coma that she created is not exactly the same thing as raping a child with the help a weapon for example. Also, i wrote that the rapist was 16. Not 25... 16 !




i don't make the laws, i don't see why judges shouldn't follow them.
(i mean excepted when it makes a scandal... i'm ironic...)

Originally Posted by kane (Post 19409533)

For me the bottom line is this, and maybe I misread it. You seemed to suggest that because the girl was drunk the guys shouldn't get as harsh of a punishment. Is that the case?

Originally Posted by pornmasta (Post 19409230)

ok i realize that it was perhaps not the best thread to explain my point on view.
in fact really not the best.

Originally Posted by pornmasta (Post 19409553)

Someone talked about pushing them to suicide...
In fact my first idea was to prevent a social lynching that could stop their further reintegration in the society, so i defended them a little bit (there is other rapes in the society), i didn't understand that the local autorities tried to hush up the story.

The only reason why the punishment shouldn't be too harsh is the fact they are minors (but i realize that at least one was 18).

Originally Posted by pornmasta (Post 19408801)

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Originally Posted by misspandora (Post 19409564)

So the f what?

Whether I made 10 posts or 100000 doesn't change the fact that something is f'd up with your thinking on this topic!

Originally Posted by misspandora (Post 19409563)

..nice attempt at backpedaling when you clearly were in 'blame the victim' mode. Sorry we're not buying it..

Originally Posted by EddyTheDog (Post 19409566)

your ePenis is tiny....

Originally Posted by EddyTheDog (Post 19409566)

Sorry, your ePenis is tiny - Nothing you say matters....

Originally Posted by pornmasta (Post 19407484)

Well yes, they published the photo of the girl after she raped her (with a finger, not with a dick, for me it makes a difference)

Originally Posted by misspandora (Post 19410208)

That's quite frankly idiotic.

Sorry I don't have endless amounts of time to spew my regurgitatations about every topic on this forum and therefore don't have 100000s of posts like you guys.

I'm actually here for business purposes and have better things to do with my time. Like, run my f'ing business. i posted here cuz I was a bit alarmed about rapey mcraperson's posts.

Judging by the reaction of others who also have nothing better to do but post about meaningless topics on gfy.com, even people with "epenises" bigger than mine, think he's full of s**t.

Originally Posted by _Richard_ (Post 19409263)

isn't that a big thing in the states?

'go to prison get raped'

and then there is funny laws where people go to jail for 10+ years for having a bag of weed

so when you say 'when has people of any merit said it;'s ok to rape men'

have you ever heard someone joke about going to jail and getting raped? perhaps been in their company?

Originally Posted by NikKay (Post 19411260)

Can someone please rape this guy with their fingers so I can tell him afterwards that he's probably okay since it wasn't a dick?

Originally Posted by pornmasta (Post 19411288)

well, i prefer with a finger than with a dick, in case of...
(aids, psychological aspect, also size...)

Originally Posted by NikKay (Post 19411330)

A few fingers with unclipped fingernails.

Originally Posted by Mutt (Post 19409590)

This video was shot days after the actual event - how many of these little douchebags were there and participating in the crime? The narrator, who is 18, was participating - he needs to go to jail.