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  • misspandora
    Registered User
    • Jan 2011
    • 51
    #51
    What! Is this a smackdown challenge? Come on, fistfights don't solve anything.

    You say you "changed things". What did you change?

    Oh, and I finally got my payment. But yknow what? I really needed it Dec. 26th, when it was actually *scheduled* to arrive. I was stuck in NYC with no money in my business account and had to front personal money. NOT cool.

    Give us 1 reason why we shouldnt all rush to a competitor.

    Originally posted by Michael O
    If you want to discuss it in person I will be in Vegas as well.


    ....

    As I mentioned above we have changed things so this should not happen again for users not using RedPass, we know its not acceptable and as mentioned above I will be in Vegas and if you have any issues with non payment look me up and I will do my best to get it solved asap, I will be the very short haired guy with a black RedPass shirt.
    Miss Pandora
    http://www.sexypandora.com/

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      • misspandora
        Registered User
        • Jan 2011
        • 51
        #52
        Mine arrived today as well.

        Originally posted by shimmy2
        glad to hear you got yours. i never have received an ACH on saturdays. will see whats up monday
        Miss Pandora
        http://www.sexypandora.com/

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          • TisMe
            Confirmed User
            • Aug 2008
            • 1719
            #53
            Glad to see people are getting paid.

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              • iSpyCams
                Amateur Gynecologist
                • May 2009
                • 4436
                #54
                Originally posted by misspandora
                Give us 1 reason why we shouldnt all rush to a competitor.
                The only reason to use Zombaio is if you cant afford anyone else, so that's your reason.
                - As soon as I think up a good sig it's going here.

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                  • iSpyCams
                    Amateur Gynecologist
                    • May 2009
                    • 4436
                    #55
                    Originally posted by Michael O
                    Back in the day when I first started out on the boards, we did not post in competitors threads if they had issues or someone asked questions, because of respect and confidence in our own product but you seem to just spam your company every chance you get. How many of your or our competitors do you see posting here? There is a reason why. If you want to discuss it in person I will be in Vegas as well.
                    I got some shit I could start with our competitors in some of their threads here an on other boards but it just make you seem petty or desperate.
                    lol @ calling for respect from a competitor. You don't compete with Netbilling, you are a stepping stone to them. (and a shaky one from the looks of it) They compete with you like Maytag competes with Easy Bake ovens. You are the first processor anyone needs (to drop) and they are the last.
                    - As soon as I think up a good sig it's going here.

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                      • misspandora
                        Registered User
                        • Jan 2011
                        • 51
                        #56
                        LOL

                        I don't make tens of thousands per month...CCBill will still take me, right?

                        Originally posted by pompousjohn
                        lol @ calling for respect from a competitor. You don't compete with Netbilling, you are a stepping stone to them. (and a shaky one from the looks of it) They compete with you like Maytag competes with Easy Bake ovens. You are the first processor anyone needs (to drop) and they are the last.
                        Miss Pandora
                        http://www.sexypandora.com/

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                          • Robbie
                            Leaner, Meaner, Faster
                            • Aug 2002
                            • 20960
                            #57
                            Originally posted by pompousjohn
                            The only reason to use Zombaio is if you cant afford anyone else, so that's your reason.
                            That's just dumb!

                            I use NetBilling, CC Bill, Epoch, and a few others with NATS on my affiliate tour.

                            But I use Zombaio on my non-affiliate tour.
                            Why the hell would I want to pay MORE to process when I don't have to?

                            It's good business to pay less for the same thing.

                            What paysites do you own? And which processors do you use and how many merchant accounts do you have?
                            I'm gonna guess NONE on all those questions.

                            Yet, you think you know what you're talking about?
                            -Robbie
                            ClaudiaMarie.Com

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                              • iSpyCams
                                Amateur Gynecologist
                                • May 2009
                                • 4436
                                #58
                                Originally posted by Robbie
                                That's just dumb!

                                I use NetBilling, CC Bill, Epoch, and a few others with NATS on my affiliate tour.

                                But I use Zombaio on my non-affiliate tour.
                                Why the hell would I want to pay MORE to process when I don't have to?

                                It's good business to pay less for the same thing.

                                What paysites do you own? And which processors do you use and how many merchant accounts do you have?
                                I'm gonna guess NONE on all those questions.

                                Yet, you think you know what you're talking about?
                                You lose your bet. I use CCbill, Epoch and Netbilling now. I have used Zombaio and Segpay in the past. I am switching everything over to Netbilling because the retention is much better, since I can make multiple attempts at renewing a membership rather than just dropping a customer after the first decline to minimize transaction fees like 3rd party IPSP's do. With Netbilling I have 3 MIDs. Currently billing around 100k monthly. I am in the process of moving everything over to Netbilling. I have no issue at all with CCBill or Epoch, but 3rd party IPSP's are pretty much "bring your own website" affiliate programs and I got my own.

                                As far as Zombaio, I do not tolerate payout delays from anyone, ever, period. There is always something deeper going on and with affiliate programs and even credit card processing it's child's play to create a ponzi scheme even unintentionally. So if payouts are not rock solid, then most likely neither is anything else about a program.

                                If you are as shrewd a businessman as you claim you will probably see that Epoch's throughput beats CCBill and Zombaio and you are leaving money on the table by using them for direct signups.

                                But by all means continue to use them, I will continue to chuckle as I have for years now, everytime there is a post about some late payouts or other fucked up shit from Zombaio.
                                - As soon as I think up a good sig it's going here.

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                                  • NETbilling
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • Jan 2002
                                    • 8598
                                    #59
                                    Originally posted by pompousjohn
                                    You lose your bet. I use CCbill, Epoch and Netbilling now. I have used Zombaio and Segpay in the past. I am switching everything over to Netbilling because the retention is much better, since I can make multiple attempts at renewing a membership rather than just dropping a customer after the first decline to minimize transaction fees like 3rd party IPSP's do. With Netbilling I have 3 MIDs. Currently billing around 100k monthly. I am in the process of moving everything over to Netbilling. I have no issue at all with CCBill or Epoch, but 3rd party IPSP's are pretty much "bring your own website" affiliate programs and I got my own.

                                    As far as Zombaio, I do not tolerate payout delays from anyone, ever, period. There is always something deeper going on and with affiliate programs and even credit card processing it's child's play to create a ponzi scheme even unintentionally. So if payouts are not rock solid, then most likely neither is anything else about a program.

                                    If you are as shrewd a businessman as you claim you will probably see that Epoch's throughput beats CCBill and Zombaio and you are leaving money on the table by using them for direct signups.

                                    But by all means continue to use them, I will continue to chuckle as I have for years now, everytime there is a post about some late payouts or other fucked up shit from Zombaio.
                                    John,

                                    Thank you for the kind words about our company. We are happy to work with you.

                                    Mitch


                                    Mitch Farber
                                    CEO - NETbilling, Inc.
                                    Email / Phone: 888-357-8166 / 661-252-2456
                                    Transaction processing & 24/7 call center services with exceptional rates and flexibility, since 1998!

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                                      • SwirlsGirl
                                        So Fucking Banned
                                        • Feb 2006
                                        • 2067
                                        #60
                                        Originally posted by NETbilling
                                        John,

                                        Thank you for the kind words about our company. We are happy to work with you.

                                        Mitch
                                        Hey we have some kind words for your company as well...would you consider working with us?

                                        Sara

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                                          • iSpyCams
                                            Amateur Gynecologist
                                            • May 2009
                                            • 4436
                                            #61
                                            Originally posted by SwirlsGirl
                                            Hey we have some kind words for your company as well...would you consider working with us?

                                            Sara
                                            Hey have Beaner hit me up if he wants a walkthrough of how I made the jump from CCBill to Netbilling. It's not all sunglasses and autographs, and in fact I can't offer any insight that cant be gotten from Netbilling directly (I deal with Wendy Nelson there) but I doubt she has ever transitioned from an IPSP to a direct MID personally and I have so I may be able to help. Who knows. ICQ is 353-496-007 and my Yahoo user is pompousjohn.
                                            - As soon as I think up a good sig it's going here.

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                                              • NETbilling
                                                Confirmed User
                                                • Jan 2002
                                                • 8598
                                                #62
                                                Originally posted by Michael O
                                                We apologize for the delay for our clients getting their payouts, payouts went out on Thursday and Friday but we still have a couple that will be sent on Monday. We know this is not acceptable and we have taken steps to prevent this the next time a holiday is upon us.

                                                Back in the day when I first started out on the boards, we did not post in competitors threads if they had issues or someone asked questions, because of respect and confidence in our own product but you seem to just spam your company every chance you get. How many of your or our competitors do you see posting here? There is a reason why. If you want to discuss it in person I will be in Vegas as well.
                                                I got some shit I could start with our competitors in some of their threads here an on other boards but it just make you seem petty or desperate.
                                                It seems you have much bigger issues than to worry about NETbilling posting in these threads. Not sure when you started in the industry but I started in 1997 and NETbilling started in 1998. We surely are not badmouthing any competitors but I am an opportunist. Over the years (way before you were around too), competitors posted in iBill, Websitebilling, DMR and many other processor threads. I have a great relationship with the owners and crews from CCbill Epoch, Segpay and others (and refer merchants to them often of we cannot help), and still post in the threads occasionally if someone is not happy and looking for alternatives.

                                                Being the largest processor in the industry for those with their own merchant accounts certainly does not make us desperate or even petty. When we see an opportunity to drive more business to our company, we take it. Don't be hurt by it. Hopefully you will heed the warnings and get things fixed.

                                                I am happy to setup a meeting for you with one of my staff in Vegas or LA if you would like to meet with them and discuss further. I will be busy meeting with clients and potential clients myself.

                                                Good Day, Mitch


                                                Mitch Farber
                                                CEO - NETbilling, Inc.
                                                Email / Phone: 888-357-8166 / 661-252-2456
                                                Transaction processing & 24/7 call center services with exceptional rates and flexibility, since 1998!

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                                                  • Robbie
                                                    Leaner, Meaner, Faster
                                                    • Aug 2002
                                                    • 20960
                                                    #63
                                                    Originally posted by pompousjohn

                                                    If you are as shrewd a businessman as you claim you will probably see that Epoch's throughput beats CCBill and Zombaio and you are leaving money on the table by using them for direct signups.

                                                    But by all means continue to use them, I will continue to chuckle as I have for years now, everytime there is a post about some late payouts or other fucked up shit from Zombaio.
                                                    Epoch is dead last in my cascade. But if you like 'em...feel free.

                                                    And just out of curiosity...what paysites do you own? If they are good I'd like to promote them. But you are not showing any information.

                                                    And keep on "chuckling". Zombaio has a fucked up third party ACH. I stopped using it and hopped over to their RedPass option. Not one problem since then.

                                                    The only reason I'm not using Netbilling on my non-affiliate tour is that I haven't been able to sit down with Mitch or anybody and get it set up. Maybe this year?
                                                    -Robbie
                                                    ClaudiaMarie.Com

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                                                      • NETbilling
                                                        Confirmed User
                                                        • Jan 2002
                                                        • 8598
                                                        #64
                                                        Originally posted by Robbie
                                                        Epoch is dead last in my cascade. But if you like 'em...feel free.

                                                        And just out of curiosity...what paysites do you own? If they are good I'd like to promote them. But you are not showing any information.

                                                        And keep on "chuckling". Zombaio has a fucked up third party ACH. I stopped using it and hopped over to their RedPass option. Not one problem since then.

                                                        The only reason I'm not using Netbilling on my non-affiliate tour is that I haven't been able to sit down with Mitch or anybody and get it set up. Maybe this year?
                                                        Robbie - we can sit down anytime. Will you be in LA or should we set a time for Vegas?

                                                        Thanks, Mitch


                                                        Mitch Farber
                                                        CEO - NETbilling, Inc.
                                                        Email / Phone: 888-357-8166 / 661-252-2456
                                                        Transaction processing & 24/7 call center services with exceptional rates and flexibility, since 1998!

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                                                          • Robbie
                                                            Leaner, Meaner, Faster
                                                            • Aug 2002
                                                            • 20960
                                                            #65
                                                            Originally posted by NETbilling
                                                            Robbie - we can sit down anytime. Will you be in LA or should we set a time for Vegas?

                                                            Thanks, Mitch
                                                            Let's do Vegas. I'm skipping L.A.

                                                            Since they moved that show so close to the Vegas show on the calendar I just can't do both.

                                                            I'll be around to have some drinks on the 12th at The Hard Rock, and then I'll be there every day from the 13th to the 20th.

                                                            I can already tell you exactly what I want to do. I want to set up a merchant account and use NetBilling as the gateway for the non-affiilate tour at http://claudiamarie.com/tour/

                                                            So have that paperwork ready to whip out so we can sign it and get back to drinking as quickly as possible. lol
                                                            -Robbie
                                                            ClaudiaMarie.Com

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                                                              • shimmy2
                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                • Mar 2009
                                                                • 3271
                                                                #66
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                                                                  • iSpyCams
                                                                    Amateur Gynecologist
                                                                    • May 2009
                                                                    • 4436
                                                                    #67
                                                                    Originally posted by Robbie
                                                                    And just out of curiosity...what paysites do you own? If they are good I'd like to promote them. But you are not showing any information.
                                                                    Long ago I posted some information about a project I was working on here and it became a major troll-fest. So I focus on what makes me money and I use GFY to keep an eye on trends, keep an eye out for suitable vendors for content and other needs, help people if their needs fall within my somewhat narrow field of expertise and experience but also to blow off steam when I am drinking. (like right now)

                                                                    My ICQ is 353-496-007 if you want to discuss any of my projects in person I'd be happy to help you, but it will likely be awhile before I post any URL's for public consumption. I like'em, my invite only affiliates like them, my customers like'em ok I guess, my bank account loves them like there's no tomorrow but turning the general asshole population of GFY (of which I am a proud member) loose on them is not something I am looking forward to and there are a lot of details that need to be locked down before I do that.
                                                                    - As soon as I think up a good sig it's going here.

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                                                                      • iSpyCams
                                                                        Amateur Gynecologist
                                                                        • May 2009
                                                                        • 4436
                                                                        #68
                                                                        Originally posted by Robbie
                                                                        The only reason I'm not using Netbilling on my non-affiliate tour is that I haven't been able to sit down with Mitch or anybody and get it set up. Maybe this year?
                                                                        If you already have a tour and a program in nats that has Netbilling in its cascade then do the following:

                                                                        Make sure your personal nats affiliate account is enrolled in that program

                                                                        Get your affiliate link for that program but DON'T PUT IT IN THE TOUR.

                                                                        Instead put http:yourlink/join in a browser and see what it resolves to. For example,

                                                                        http://join.mysite.com/track/Mi4yMC4...AuMC4wLjA/join resolves to

                                                                        http://join.mysite.com/signup/signup...y4wLjAuMC4wLjA

                                                                        Copy THAT link and put it in your tour.

                                                                        The result is that if surfers arrive with an affiliate referral, they will get the signup options specific to that referral and the affiliate will be credited properly. If the surfer arrives without an affiliate referral, your affiliate account will be credited for the sale instead.

                                                                        Done.
                                                                        - As soon as I think up a good sig it's going here.

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                                                                          • NETbilling
                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                            • Jan 2002
                                                                            • 8598
                                                                            #69
                                                                            Originally posted by Robbie
                                                                            Let's do Vegas. I'm skipping L.A.

                                                                            Since they moved that show so close to the Vegas show on the calendar I just can't do both.

                                                                            I'll be around to have some drinks on the 12th at The Hard Rock, and then I'll be there every day from the 13th to the 20th.

                                                                            I can already tell you exactly what I want to do. I want to set up a merchant account and use NetBilling as the gateway for the non-affiilate tour at http://claudiamarie.com/tour/

                                                                            So have that paperwork ready to whip out so we can sign it and get back to drinking as quickly as possible. lol
                                                                            Hi,

                                                                            If it is for the same merchant account and NETbilling account that you already have, there is no paperwork necessary. Let's talk Monday on the phone and get it all setup for you.
                                                                            Email me with the best number to reach you, ok?


                                                                            Mitch Farber
                                                                            CEO - NETbilling, Inc.
                                                                            Email / Phone: 888-357-8166 / 661-252-2456
                                                                            Transaction processing & 24/7 call center services with exceptional rates and flexibility, since 1998!

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                                                                              • NETbilling
                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                • Jan 2002
                                                                                • 8598
                                                                                #70
                                                                                Originally posted by NETbilling
                                                                                Hi,

                                                                                If it is for the same merchant account and NETbilling account that you already have, there is no paperwork necessary. Let's talk Monday on the phone and get it all setup for you.
                                                                                Email me with the best number to reach you, ok?
                                                                                Did I miss an email this morning?


                                                                                Mitch Farber
                                                                                CEO - NETbilling, Inc.
                                                                                Email / Phone: 888-357-8166 / 661-252-2456
                                                                                Transaction processing & 24/7 call center services with exceptional rates and flexibility, since 1998!

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                                                                                  • Robbie
                                                                                    Leaner, Meaner, Faster
                                                                                    • Aug 2002
                                                                                    • 20960
                                                                                    #71
                                                                                    Originally posted by NETbilling
                                                                                    Did I miss an email this morning?
                                                                                    Yes, I emailed you from my gmail account this morning.
                                                                                    -Robbie
                                                                                    ClaudiaMarie.Com

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                                                                                      • Dirty F
                                                                                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                        • Jul 2001
                                                                                        • 59204
                                                                                        #72
                                                                                        Originally posted by SwirlsGirl
                                                                                        Hey we have some kind words for your company as well...would you consider working with us?

                                                                                        Sara
                                                                                        Oh great. The next company who will the subject of your daily threads full of insane conspiracies.
                                                                                        Before you work with this clown do a search. Watch what she did to ccbill. The lunatic will do the same with other processors. She's delusional an will blame you for her own mistakes. Over and over again. She will accuse you of the mist ridiculous things.
                                                                                        Stay as far away as possible from this psycho!
                                                                                        Last edited by Dirty F; 01-06-2013, 02:36 PM.

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                                                                                          • NetHorse
                                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                                            • Dec 2006
                                                                                            • 3526
                                                                                            #73
                                                                                            Originally posted by NETbilling
                                                                                            We surely are not badmouthing any competitors but I am an opportunist.
                                                                                            ┌∩┐(◣_◢)┌∩┐
                                                                                            ICQ # 427013273

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                                                                                              • porn500
                                                                                                Registered User
                                                                                                • Oct 2011
                                                                                                • 94
                                                                                                #74
                                                                                                Originally posted by pompousjohn
                                                                                                lol @ calling for respect from a competitor. You don't compete with Netbilling, you are a stepping stone to them. (and a shaky one from the looks of it) They compete with you like Maytag competes with Easy Bake ovens. You are the first processor anyone needs (to drop) and they are the last.


                                                                                                You have no idéa what you are talking about

                                                                                                Jacob
                                                                                                Program Manager

                                                                                                PORN500.COM - Adult Centro


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                                                                                                  • porn500
                                                                                                    Registered User
                                                                                                    • Oct 2011
                                                                                                    • 94
                                                                                                    #75
                                                                                                    Originally posted by NETbilling
                                                                                                    We surely are not badmouthing any competitors but......
                                                                                                    Good Day, Mitch
                                                                                                    Whatever works for you man, but it sure does not look good. Just my opinion.
                                                                                                    Jacob
                                                                                                    Program Manager

                                                                                                    PORN500.COM - Adult Centro


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                                                                                                      • MaDalton
                                                                                                        I am Amazing Content!
                                                                                                        • Feb 2004
                                                                                                        • 39861
                                                                                                        #76
                                                                                                        Originally posted by SwirlsGirl
                                                                                                        Hey we have some kind words for your company as well...would you consider working with us?

                                                                                                        Sara
                                                                                                        you rather fix your site first http://saraswirls.com/main.html
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                                                                                                          • epitome
                                                                                                            So Fucking Lame
                                                                                                            • Jun 2009
                                                                                                            • 12156
                                                                                                            #77
                                                                                                            Originally posted by porn500


                                                                                                            You have no idéa what you are talking about

                                                                                                            1) Your signature image is broken
                                                                                                            2) When someone signs up through a merchant account that is handled by NetBilling, the member never goes to the NetBilling website. When someone signs up through Zombaio, they go to secure.zombaio.com, which is reflected in those Alexa stats. Since only clients use NetBilling.com, the only thing that you've proven is that NetBilling is many, many, many times more popular than Zombaio.

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                                                                                                              • MaDalton
                                                                                                                I am Amazing Content!
                                                                                                                • Feb 2004
                                                                                                                • 39861
                                                                                                                #78
                                                                                                                Originally posted by epitome
                                                                                                                1) Your signature image is broken
                                                                                                                2) When someone signs up through a merchant account that is handled by NetBilling, the member never goes to the NetBilling website. When someone signs up through Zombaio, they go to secure.zombaio.com, which is reflected in those Alexa stats. Since only clients use NetBilling.com, the only thing that you've proven is that NetBilling is many, many, many times more popular than Zombaio.
                                                                                                                for some other reason i checked earlier and i believe its secure.netbilling.com that people use

                                                                                                                also CCBill should be added to that graph, it would put things a bit in perspective
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                                                                                                                  • SwirlsGirl
                                                                                                                    So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                                    • Feb 2006
                                                                                                                    • 2067
                                                                                                                    #79
                                                                                                                    Originally posted by Dirty F
                                                                                                                    Oh great. The next company who will the subject of your daily threads full of insane conspiracies.
                                                                                                                    Before you work with this clown do a search. Watch what she did to ccbill. The lunatic will do the same with other processors. She's delusional an will blame you for her own mistakes. Over and over again. She will accuse you of the mist ridiculous things.
                                                                                                                    Stay as far away as possible from this psycho!
                                                                                                                    Aww shit Frank what a low down cheesy rat bastard you are to completely sour our chances of doing business with netbilling! Mother fucker that was not necessary now frank.

                                                                                                                    Because of the level of gfy clout that you have and the fact that you are what I would playfully call a parasite's *go to* guy.

                                                                                                                    Thanks for doing your part to fuck up what could potentially be a great working relationship.

                                                                                                                    See if I ever do you any favors dirty F! You big Cheesy rat Bastard you

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                                                                                                                      • NETbilling
                                                                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                                                                        • Jan 2002
                                                                                                                        • 8598
                                                                                                                        #80
                                                                                                                        Originally posted by epitome
                                                                                                                        1) Your signature image is broken
                                                                                                                        2) When someone signs up through a merchant account that is handled by NetBilling, the member never goes to the NetBilling website. When someone signs up through Zombaio, they go to secure.zombaio.com, which is reflected in those Alexa stats. Since only clients use NetBilling.com, the only thing that you've proven is that NetBilling is many, many, many times more popular than Zombaio.
                                                                                                                        Correct - 99% of our merchants use our Direct API so the customer never hits NETbilling's site.


                                                                                                                        Mitch Farber
                                                                                                                        CEO - NETbilling, Inc.
                                                                                                                        Email / Phone: 888-357-8166 / 661-252-2456
                                                                                                                        Transaction processing & 24/7 call center services with exceptional rates and flexibility, since 1998!

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                                                                                                                          • NETbilling
                                                                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                                                                            • Jan 2002
                                                                                                                            • 8598
                                                                                                                            #81
                                                                                                                            Originally posted by MaDalton
                                                                                                                            for some other reason i checked earlier and i believe its secure.netbilling.com that people use

                                                                                                                            also CCBill should be added to that graph, it would put things a bit in perspective
                                                                                                                            Secure.netbilling.com is our admin sub domain and our hosted forms, most don't use that for transaction processing.


                                                                                                                            Mitch Farber
                                                                                                                            CEO - NETbilling, Inc.
                                                                                                                            Email / Phone: 888-357-8166 / 661-252-2456
                                                                                                                            Transaction processing & 24/7 call center services with exceptional rates and flexibility, since 1998!

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                                                                                                                              • NETbilling
                                                                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                • Jan 2002
                                                                                                                                • 8598
                                                                                                                                #82
                                                                                                                                Originally posted by Robbie
                                                                                                                                Yes, I emailed you from my gmail account this morning.
                                                                                                                                Details sent...


                                                                                                                                Mitch Farber
                                                                                                                                CEO - NETbilling, Inc.
                                                                                                                                Email / Phone: 888-357-8166 / 661-252-2456
                                                                                                                                Transaction processing & 24/7 call center services with exceptional rates and flexibility, since 1998!

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                                                                                                                                  • lagcam
                                                                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                    • Jul 2007
                                                                                                                                    • 2890
                                                                                                                                    #83
                                                                                                                                    Mitch is a renowned ambulance chaser, but hey, sometimes bodies do fall out so who can blame him?

                                                                                                                                    I am as big a Zombaio fan as the next guy, (if the next guy is Bigtymer) but I can't help thinking that Zombaio's best defence to said tactics is to make sure they always pay people on time. Three Christmas/New Years in a row now I make it.
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                                                                                                                                      • Dirty F
                                                                                                                                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                        • Jul 2001
                                                                                                                                        • 59204
                                                                                                                                        #84
                                                                                                                                        Originally posted by SwirlsGirl
                                                                                                                                        Aww shit Frank what a low down cheesy rat bastard you are to completely sour our chances of doing business with netbilling! Mother fucker that was not necessary now frank.

                                                                                                                                        Because of the level of gfy clout that you have and the fact that you are what I would playfully call a parasite's *go to* guy.

                                                                                                                                        Thanks for doing your part to fuck up what could potentially be a great working relationship.

                                                                                                                                        See if I ever do you any favors dirty F! You big Cheesy rat Bastard you
                                                                                                                                        Blame yourself you fucking psycho.

                                                                                                                                        And your site is down. You dumb bitch.
                                                                                                                                        Unbelievable. Is there ANYTHING you can get right in this business?

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                                                                                                                                          • adultchatpay
                                                                                                                                            Let's Make Money
                                                                                                                                            • Dec 2008
                                                                                                                                            • 8785
                                                                                                                                            #85
                                                                                                                                            sorry for the late update, we got the payout January 4th.
                                                                                                                                            We will still use Zombaio, they are one of the best.

                                                                                                                                            I hope they will fix issues raised here so everybody wins.
                                                                                                                                            Now back to work.

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                                                                                                                                              • vdbucks
                                                                                                                                                Monger Cash
                                                                                                                                                • Jul 2010
                                                                                                                                                • 2773
                                                                                                                                                #86
                                                                                                                                                Originally posted by Michael O
                                                                                                                                                We apologize for the delay for our clients getting their payouts, payouts went out on Thursday and Friday but we still have a couple that will be sent on Monday. We know this is not acceptable and we have taken steps to prevent this the next time a holiday is upon us.
                                                                                                                                                You know how to solve this issue? Stop using client money to pay your Christmas bonuses. Not you specifically of course as we all know you're just a worthless PR monkey. It's no wonder companies like Zombaio don't operate inside the US... because the shit they're doing is fucking criminal.

                                                                                                                                                Originally posted by Michael O
                                                                                                                                                Back in the day when I first started out on the boards, we did not post in competitors threads if they had issues or someone asked questions, because of respect and confidence in our own product but you seem to just spam your company every chance you get. How many of your or our competitors do you see posting here? There is a reason why. If you want to discuss it in person I will be in Vegas as well.
                                                                                                                                                I got some shit I could start with our competitors in some of their threads here an on other boards but it just make you seem petty or desperate.
                                                                                                                                                Umm, what? Get your shit together and maybe the competition wouldn't post in threads like these as there wouldn't be any. Stop stealing peoples' money and the problem goes away, doesn't it?

                                                                                                                                                Originally posted by Michael O
                                                                                                                                                I were told we dropped you the first chance we got on a legit reason and your posting history on GFY tells why. I have a lot of respect for the guy running your program and did my best to let your program process with us after it were under new management but no luck according to management it were not worth the trouble, that should tell the story. You should stick with the content side of your website and leave the business side to those who understand it.
                                                                                                                                                So what is this, like a threat to other people who are disgruntled with your companies thievery and have something to say about it?

                                                                                                                                                Instead, how about you pay people on time and stop making lame ass excuses or tell use to use RedPass?

                                                                                                                                                Originally posted by Michael O
                                                                                                                                                As I mentioned above we have changed things so this should not happen again for users not using RedPass, we know its not acceptable and as mentioned above I will be in Vegas and if you have any issues with non payment look me up and I will do my best to get it solved asap, I will be the very short haired guy with a black RedPass shirt.
                                                                                                                                                What real business in their right mind would trust or accept RedPass as the only reliable payout method? After the Epass debacle, in which you played a large hand in shoveling the bullshit to clients... you must be fucking high if you think we're going to place trust in the next Epass.

                                                                                                                                                RedPass should have only ever been an alternative.. not something you people try to shovel as the "reliable alternative".

                                                                                                                                                We've been in this game since 2006 and have (and currently do) processed with CCBill, Epoch, Verotel, GX Bill, Netbilling..... and Zombaio.

                                                                                                                                                Of all those payment processors, guess how many late payouts we've had?

                                                                                                                                                CCBill: Not a single late payout ever. It's just too bad they convert like shit anymore.

                                                                                                                                                Verotel: Not a single late payout ever.

                                                                                                                                                GX Bill: We don't get much through them as an alternative phone biller, but no late payouts.

                                                                                                                                                Epoch: The first late payout we ever had from them was the week of Xmas this year. But guess what... to make up for it they sent the following week's check that day (thurs 27 dec) and we received it the next day (fri 28 dec).

                                                                                                                                                Netbilling: They don't handle the payouts, our merchant account does... but zero late payments whatsoever.

                                                                                                                                                Zombaio: Used to be good up until Xmas 2010. I know I personally promoted/praised them to anyone I talked to about payment processors up until and even shortly after that point. Ever since then it's been one fuck up after another. It's always someone else' fault and they never give any real info about what the hell the problem is, where the hell our money is, or anything useful whatsoever. And they haven't done shit since Xmas 2010 to solve these issues; all they've done is gotten worse in fact.

                                                                                                                                                All we have is Michael O shoveling more of the same old "money is in motion" bullshit that he shoveled with Epass.
                                                                                                                                                Last edited by vdbucks; 01-07-2013, 01:35 AM.

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                                                                                                                                                  • ShowMe69
                                                                                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                    • Sep 2005
                                                                                                                                                    • 3147
                                                                                                                                                    #87
                                                                                                                                                    we still have not received payment
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                                                                                                                                                      • MaDalton
                                                                                                                                                        I am Amazing Content!
                                                                                                                                                        • Feb 2004
                                                                                                                                                        • 39861
                                                                                                                                                        #88
                                                                                                                                                        Originally posted by NETbilling
                                                                                                                                                        Secure.netbilling.com is our admin sub domain and our hosted forms, most don't use that for transaction processing.
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                                                                                                                                                          • Michael O
                                                                                                                                                            More Cowbell
                                                                                                                                                            • Jul 2001
                                                                                                                                                            • 10607
                                                                                                                                                            #89
                                                                                                                                                            Originally posted by vdbucks
                                                                                                                                                            You know how to solve this issue? Stop using client money to pay your Christmas bonuses. Not you specifically of course as we all know you're just a worthless PR monkey. It's no wonder companies like Zombaio don't operate inside the US... because the shit they're doing is fucking criminal.



                                                                                                                                                            Umm, what? Get your shit together and maybe the competition wouldn't post in threads like these as there wouldn't be any. Stop stealing peoples' money and the problem goes away, doesn't it?



                                                                                                                                                            So what is this, like a threat to other people who are disgruntled with your companies thievery and have something to say about it?

                                                                                                                                                            Instead, how about you pay people on time and stop making lame ass excuses or tell use to use RedPass?



                                                                                                                                                            What real business in their right mind would trust or accept RedPass as the only reliable payout method? After the Epass debacle, in which you played a large hand in shoveling the bullshit to clients... you must be fucking high if you think we're going to place trust in the next Epass.

                                                                                                                                                            RedPass should have only ever been an alternative.. not something you people try to shovel as the "reliable alternative".

                                                                                                                                                            We've been in this game since 2006 and have (and currently do) processed with CCBill, Epoch, Verotel, GX Bill, Netbilling..... and Zombaio.

                                                                                                                                                            Of all those payment processors, guess how many late payouts we've had?

                                                                                                                                                            CCBill: Not a single late payout ever. It's just too bad they convert like shit anymore.

                                                                                                                                                            Verotel: Not a single late payout ever.

                                                                                                                                                            GX Bill: We don't get much through them as an alternative phone biller, but no late payouts.

                                                                                                                                                            Epoch: The first late payout we ever had from them was the week of Xmas this year. But guess what... to make up for it they sent the following week's check that day (thurs 27 dec) and we received it the next day (fri 28 dec).

                                                                                                                                                            Netbilling: They don't handle the payouts, our merchant account does... but zero late payments whatsoever.

                                                                                                                                                            Zombaio: Used to be good up until Xmas 2010. I know I personally promoted/praised them to anyone I talked to about payment processors up until and even shortly after that point. Ever since then it's been one fuck up after another. It's always someone else' fault and they never give any real info about what the hell the problem is, where the hell our money is, or anything useful whatsoever. And they haven't done shit since Xmas 2010 to solve these issues; all they've done is gotten worse in fact.

                                                                                                                                                            All we have is Michael O shoveling more of the same old "money is in motion" bullshit that he shoveled with Epass.
                                                                                                                                                            1) Zombaio is registered as a company in Delaware, USA.

                                                                                                                                                            2) When I started out you did not spam other peoples threads, good or bad that were the rule. I got scolded by someone about a year ago with some nasty emails because I dared to post in a thread about their company when it were in reference to RedPass. I guess I am old school when it comes to that, please forward any information you have on people not getting paid by Zombaio before you cross the libel line.

                                                                                                                                                            3) I refer to #2 please send an email for someone following the TOS of Zombaio and not getting paid and I guess we crossed the libel with that.

                                                                                                                                                            4) Oh Buddha nothing like that, it were meant to be lets sit down have a drink and talk it over, everyone that know me or have meet me know I am a big softie, I don't believe in violence and have never hit someone. Twice taken a couple of shots and then walked away.

                                                                                                                                                            5) I shoveled the bullshit big time I agree with that and I were wrong. I had Chris, Mark and Shaliza feeding me the bullshit, calling me saying everything is back to normal in 4-5 days and I had worked with them for 5 years and I trusted them, they had always been honest with me but in the end I were a tool they used to extend the BS and if I meet Chris today I can not say what I would do, he is the lowest piece of shit, he stole a lot of money from a lot of people and I still have people asking me about their money and he BS interviews he have done saying he paid everyone but the scammers is 100% BS. I hope he dies a slow painfull death. If you look back I have never defended them after what happened, I did it the first couple of weeks but after that when I wised up I never did.


                                                                                                                                                            I work for RedPass/Zombaio for ONE reason.
                                                                                                                                                            I were originally hired to help with RedPass and I have full access to everything, that were a condition I had to not end up in a ePass situation, I know everything is done 100% by the rules, it have spilled into Zombaio and I am happy with that since Zombaio owns RedPass.

                                                                                                                                                            I am not sure where you are based but I would be happy to take a trip to Manila or meet you in BKK and have a talk about your concerns I know you have been a good customer for Zombaio in the past and we would like to have you back so let me know how we can improve our service. I understand your concerns but give us a chance to make our mistakes right.


                                                                                                                                                            Its past my bed time and I will grab 8 hours of sleep before driving the kids to school but I will be back
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                                                                                                                                                              • Michael O
                                                                                                                                                                More Cowbell
                                                                                                                                                                • Jul 2001
                                                                                                                                                                • 10607
                                                                                                                                                                #90
                                                                                                                                                                Originally posted by ShowMe69
                                                                                                                                                                we still have not received payment
                                                                                                                                                                Can you please email me your Merchant ID to [email protected] then I will look into it.
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                                                                                                                                                                  • vdbucks
                                                                                                                                                                    Monger Cash
                                                                                                                                                                    • Jul 2010
                                                                                                                                                                    • 2773
                                                                                                                                                                    #91
                                                                                                                                                                    Originally posted by Michael O
                                                                                                                                                                    1) Zombaio is registered as a company in Delaware, USA.

                                                                                                                                                                    2) When I started out you did not spam other peoples threads, good or bad that were the rule. I got scolded by someone about a year ago with some nasty emails because I dared to post in a thread about their company when it were in reference to RedPass. I guess I am old school when it comes to that, please forward any information you have on people not getting paid by Zombaio before you cross the libel line.

                                                                                                                                                                    3) I refer to #2 please send an email for someone following the TOS of Zombaio and not getting paid and I guess we crossed the libel with that.

                                                                                                                                                                    4) Oh Buddha nothing like that, it were meant to be lets sit down have a drink and talk it over, everyone that know me or have meet me know I am a big softie, I don't believe in violence and have never hit someone. Twice taken a couple of shots and then walked away.

                                                                                                                                                                    5) I shoveled the bullshit big time I agree with that and I were wrong. I had Chris, Mark and Shaliza feeding me the bullshit, calling me saying everything is back to normal in 4-5 days and I had worked with them for 5 years and I trusted them, they had always been honest with me but in the end I were a tool they used to extend the BS and if I meet Chris today I can not say what I would do, he is the lowest piece of shit, he stole a lot of money from a lot of people and I still have people asking me about their money and he BS interviews he have done saying he paid everyone but the scammers is 100% BS. I hope he dies a slow painfull death. If you look back I have never defended them after what happened, I did it the first couple of weeks but after that when I wised up I never did.


                                                                                                                                                                    I work for RedPass/Zombaio for ONE reason.
                                                                                                                                                                    I were originally hired to help with RedPass and I have full access to everything, that were a condition I had to not end up in a ePass situation, I know everything is done 100% by the rules, it have spilled into Zombaio and I am happy with that since Zombaio owns RedPass.

                                                                                                                                                                    I am not sure where you are based but I would be happy to take a trip to Manila or meet you in BKK and have a talk about your concerns I know you have been a good customer for Zombaio in the past and we would like to have you back so let me know how we can improve our service. I understand your concerns but give us a chance to make our mistakes right.


                                                                                                                                                                    Its past my bed time and I will grab 8 hours of sleep before driving the kids to school but I will be back
                                                                                                                                                                    1. It's not that hard to register a company in Delaware. In fact, you can do it online quite easily. Do you have a physical office in DE that I can drive up to and walk in? I highly doubt it. Most likely just a P.O. box like most other DE registered companies.

                                                                                                                                                                    2. I don't make the rules of etiquette here; but the fact remains; stop fucking with peoples money and the threads go away. It's not a difficult concept.

                                                                                                                                                                    3. Ahem, how about all of your customers at the moment? You have my money, I don't; and thus far you have done nothing but waive worthless apologies and excuses. Until we get our money, on time, every time and without having to go through all of this nonsense week in and week out, then I will consider it thievery.

                                                                                                                                                                    4. What the hell are you talking about? I mentioned nothing of violence. Re-read.

                                                                                                                                                                    5. I really can't care less what your involvement or history with Epass was; outside of the simple fact that when you were with Epass, you shoveled the shit and a lot of people lost a ton of money. You're now working for zombaio and it's the same shit. Perhaps if you guys would operate with, oh I dunno, transparency, and stopped fucking around with peoples' money then maybe people wouldn't have so much to complain about. It is OUR money that you guys are using for whatever it is you're using it for other than sending it to us. And again, this is considered thievery.

                                                                                                                                                                    And what are you talking about we were good customers in the past? We have an active account and are missing 3 checks from you people. Our retention ratio is 1:1 (126%) and CB ratio is 0.25%. So I'd say we're pretty damn good customers.

                                                                                                                                                                    The only difference between then and now is our average signups/month because we process less transactions through you guys because you are unreliable at best...

                                                                                                                                                                    If you have full access to everything, then why not give me the truth on where my - and everyone else' - money is? Wait, I got it... in motion, right?

                                                                                                                                                                    I've said it a dozen times now, but I suppose I'll say it again. Stop fucking with our money, stop the lame excuses and make sure we get OUR money on time, every time... and then we'd have nothing bad to say about you. But until then, we have nothing good to say about you because it all comes down to money. And as of right now, you guys are fucking up big time.

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                                                                                                                                                                      • vdbucks
                                                                                                                                                                        Monger Cash
                                                                                                                                                                        • Jul 2010
                                                                                                                                                                        • 2773
                                                                                                                                                                        #92
                                                                                                                                                                        And I must say... crying libel when you guys owe us 3 checks is pretty pathetic
                                                                                                                                                                        Last edited by vdbucks; 01-07-2013, 12:21 PM.

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                                                                                                                                                                          • vdbucks
                                                                                                                                                                            Monger Cash
                                                                                                                                                                            • Jul 2010
                                                                                                                                                                            • 2773
                                                                                                                                                                            #93
                                                                                                                                                                            You know the worst thing I have to say about...

                                                                                                                                                                            CCBill? They converted like shit for us last year.. they always pay on time though.

                                                                                                                                                                            Epoch? They paid us late once. To make up for it they sent the following weeks check. Late, 1 time in 3 or so years of processing with them.

                                                                                                                                                                            Verotel? They allowed obvious fake info to pass through and then blamed us for the fraudulent sale(s) a while back. Seems they took care of that though. Always pay us on time.

                                                                                                                                                                            Netbilling? Their scrub level settings are a pain to figure out and configure. They don't touch our money but our merchant account has never paid us late.


                                                                                                                                                                            So you see, my comments and complaints are not without merit. It's not like I merely troll these boards looking for opportunities to badmouth your company.

                                                                                                                                                                            And as I've said before, I used to have nothing but good things to say about Zombaio up until Xmas of 2010. Things have gone steadily downhill since then...

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                                                                                                                                                                              • MainManRay
                                                                                                                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                                • Jan 2003
                                                                                                                                                                                • 154
                                                                                                                                                                                #94
                                                                                                                                                                                What i dont get with Zombaio is:

                                                                                                                                                                                - why crossing the floor limit payout threshold is only applicable weekdays which can delay daily payments by 3 further days if you hit it on a Saturday. The alternative is lower threshold, and more wire fees to avoid this.

                                                                                                                                                                                - why they charge 5% surcharge for a 1.5% chargeback ratio making their opening rate of 13.9%. (Didnt they enter this market on the back of the 4.9% sales spin?) . You cant say the bank charge them 5% - most charge a few bucks for a chargeback especially on their volume and since online chargebacks cant be disputed its not like they are faxing proof to the banks or on the phone to them begging. Unnecessary profit IMO.

                                                                                                                                                                                - with regards to their shit support (7 hours PST - good luck if in EU or AUZ) - why they dont post critical news like payment delays due to holidays on the account page or email everyone like CCBill etc does. Not exactly hard. At least everyones informed regardless of whether they are on vacation playing with Santas nuts in the Swedish snow or counting our (delayed) money on the beach.

                                                                                                                                                                                - why it takes 3 days for a payment to be credited to Redpass- WTF? if its because of the foreign bank, surely they would have sufficient funds locally to cover payments as not everyone uses them? Its called Cashflow management.

                                                                                                                                                                                - why their iPhone app is last updated 3 years ago!!? Why go through the pain of an app on iTunes never to update it and improve features?

                                                                                                                                                                                They could be great but i think for us its back to the devil you know as theres just too much shit they need to do to get serious unless this thread wakes them up but its not exactly the first
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                                                                                                                                                                                  • NetHorse
                                                                                                                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                                    • Dec 2006
                                                                                                                                                                                    • 3526
                                                                                                                                                                                    #95
                                                                                                                                                                                    Originally posted by MainManRay
                                                                                                                                                                                    What i dont get with Zombaio is:

                                                                                                                                                                                    - why crossing the floor limit payout threshold is only applicable weekdays which can delay daily payments by 3 further days if you hit it on a Saturday. The alternative is lower threshold, and more wire fees to avoid this.

                                                                                                                                                                                    - why they charge 5% surcharge for a 1.5% chargeback ratio making their opening rate of 13.9%. (Didnt they enter this market on the back of the 4.9% sales spin?) . You cant say the bank charge them 5% - most charge a few bucks for a chargeback especially on their volume and since online chargebacks cant be disputed its not like they are faxing proof to the banks or on the phone to them begging. Unnecessary profit IMO.
                                                                                                                                                                                    If you aren't covering yourself from potentially going into a Visa chargeback program, (huge fines) then you're walking a non-existent line. With Visa / Mastercard you get ONE shot, it isn't even a question if you're a processor. Their overall rate is competitive.

                                                                                                                                                                                    As for everything else, yes, they need to get a bit more organized over there I suppose. Some companies aren't prepared for the holiday season, that doesn't make them scammers stealing money.
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                                                                                                                                                                                      • vdbucks
                                                                                                                                                                                        Monger Cash
                                                                                                                                                                                        • Jul 2010
                                                                                                                                                                                        • 2773
                                                                                                                                                                                        #96
                                                                                                                                                                                        Originally posted by NetHorse
                                                                                                                                                                                        As for everything else, yes, they need to get a bit more organized over there I suppose. Some companies aren't prepared for the holiday season, that doesn't make them scammers stealing money.
                                                                                                                                                                                        While OUR money sits in THEIR interest bearing accounts instead of being sent to us ON TIME, they make money off of it. Not to mention, they still have OUR money. Not sure what else you would call it.

                                                                                                                                                                                        Just think, if you're working for a company in the US and all of a sudden they stopped paying you for nearly a month during xmas... what do you think would happen? Employees would sue them. The only difference here being that we don't work for the payment processors... they're supposed to working for us.

                                                                                                                                                                                        Oh and by the way; another day arrives, but still no zombaio checks.

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                                                                                                                                                                                          • MainManRay
                                                                                                                                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                                            • Jan 2003
                                                                                                                                                                                            • 154
                                                                                                                                                                                            #97
                                                                                                                                                                                            yep, they are late again, time to change payment pages
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                                                                                                                                                                                              • Michael O
                                                                                                                                                                                                More Cowbell
                                                                                                                                                                                                • Jul 2001
                                                                                                                                                                                                • 10607
                                                                                                                                                                                                #98
                                                                                                                                                                                                Again we apologize for the delay in the payouts and the last payouts left Sweden yesterday Monday the 7th. We know this is not acceptable and procedures have been put in place to avoid this for the next holiday.

                                                                                                                                                                                                If you do not have a wire you expect on Thursday at the latest please email me at [email protected] I will be traveling to Internext but should be able to reply within 24 hours during layovers.

                                                                                                                                                                                                For Checks and ACHs If you do not have your ACH on Friday send me a email and I will get more information for you.
                                                                                                                                                                                                Checks have been sent or will be sent from our check provider asap.
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                                                                                                                                                                                                  • signupdamnit
                                                                                                                                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                                                    • Aug 2007
                                                                                                                                                                                                    • 6697
                                                                                                                                                                                                    #99
                                                                                                                                                                                                    Originally posted by vdbucks
                                                                                                                                                                                                    Stop using client money to pay your Christmas bonuses.
                                                                                                                                                                                                    I was thinking the same thing. It seems as if some companies might be using the interest in delaying payouts to pay their Christmas bonuses.

                                                                                                                                                                                                    You don't like my posts? Put me on ignore or fuck right off. I'll say what I want.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                      • SwirlsGirl
                                                                                                                                                                                                        So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                                                                                                                        • Feb 2006
                                                                                                                                                                                                        • 2067
                                                                                                                                                                                                        #100
                                                                                                                                                                                                        I am sure some of us following along at home just wish a very simple and direct question could be answered here...

                                                                                                                                                                                                        For showme69s and others in this thread ....

                                                                                                                                                                                                        If your customers paid the monies to zombaio weeks ago....

                                                                                                                                                                                                        That means your customers are not holding the monies anymore...

                                                                                                                                                                                                        If zombaio does not have the monies...

                                                                                                                                                                                                        and the bank don't have the monies...

                                                                                                                                                                                                        clients and webmasters don't have the monies....

                                                                                                                                                                                                        Is Buck Rodgers in the 25th century holding the monies????

                                                                                                                                                                                                        Who the fuck is holding the monies?????

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