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  • Vendzilla
    Biker Gnome
    • Mar 2004
    • 23200

    #1

    Banning Assault weapons may not be the right direction according to this

    Gun laws in Illinois

    Cook County and the city of Chicago have separately banned the possession of "assault weapons", and of magazines that can hold more than 10 or 12 rounds of ammunition respectively.

    Illinois does not issue licenses for the concealed carry of firearms, nor does it recognize licenses issued by other states. Illinois is the only state that does not allow concealed carry in some form. Open carry is also prohibited in most areas.

    When a firearm is being transported, it must be unloaded and enclosed in a case.

    To legally possess firearms or ammunition, Illinois residents must have a Firearm Owners Identification (FOID) card, issued by the state police.

    Yet Chicago ( This is where Obama came from) has just passed 500 murders with over 2,500 being shot, 63 murdered (http://crimeinchicago.blogspot.com/2...n-chicago.html 454 have been shot)were children for the year. Which puts a shadow on the idea that banning assault weapons or spending the time doing so is a waste of time.

    People outside the US that have never lived here will not understand our culture, they can give all the advice they want. I would bet that the crime rate in the Nations capital has gone down since the Supreme Court ruled allowing them to own guns again.
    Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
    think about that
  • epitome
    So Fucking Lame
    • Jun 2009
    • 12156

    #2
    How many of those murders happened outside of the ghetto where the victim and shooter were not known to each other?

    Most of those deaths are drug and gang related, just like in Baltimore, DC, St. Louis or any other city with those same problems.

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    • StickyGreen
      .
      • Oct 2003
      • 13076

      #3
      I don't know why people think you can stop bad things from happening without creating a total orwellian society...
      Refer Cam Girls and Take Home 10% of Everything They Make For Life

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      • CyberHustler
        Masterbaiter
        • Feb 2006
        • 28718

        #4
        Like I said before, what's happening in Chicago has nothing to do with anybodies gun laws. There's some next level stuff happening there with Mexican Cartels and Chicago street gangs collaborating.
        “If you can convince the lowest white man he’s better than the best colored man, he won’t notice you’re picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he’ll empty his pockets for you.”

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        • DTK
          Confirmed User
          • Feb 2002
          • 4546

          #5
          The whole problem with 'ban this gun, ban that gun' is that
          1. there are already 300+ million guns in this country
          2. the hardcore bad guys (and insane people) are already armed to the teeth
          3. the hardcore bad guys (and insane people) aren't going to give their weapons up
          4. in the result of some 'ban', the hardcore bad guys (and insane people) can just get more weapons on the street


          What hardcore gun control advocates don't get is...ummm...everything i just mentioned.

          Honestly I don't know what the right answer is, but if you think gun control laws are the solution, you're being terribly unrealistic.
          Arguing whether the Democratic or Republican party is better is like debating which steaming pile of shit is slightly less stinky.

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          • L-Pink
            working on my tan
            • Mar 2005
            • 39151

            #6
            Originally posted by DTK
            The whole problem with 'ban this gun, ban that gun' is that
            1. there are already 300+ million guns in this country
            2. the hardcore bad guys (and insane people) are already armed to the teeth
            3. the hardcore bad guys (and insane people) aren't going to give their weapons up
            4. in the result of some 'ban', the hardcore bad guys (and insane people) can just get more weapons on the street


            What hardcore gun control advocates don't get is...ummm...everything i just mentioned.

            Honestly I don't know what the right answer is, but if you think gun control laws are the solution, you're being terribly unrealistic.



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            • epitome
              So Fucking Lame
              • Jun 2009
              • 12156

              #7
              Anyone that actually knows DC knows that the murder rate has gone down. In the last decade a lot of the SE and parts of NE were gobbled up and revitalized. The criminal element moved to neighboring Prince Georges Co. where the murder rate soared.

              Something similar happened in Baltimore with Section 8 housing but on a much smaller scale.

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              • L-Pink
                working on my tan
                • Mar 2005
                • 39151

                #8
                Originally posted by epitome
                Anyone that actually knows DC knows that the murder rate has gone down. In the last decade a lot of the SE and parts of NE were gobbled up and revitalized. The criminal element moved to neighboring Prince Georges Co. where the murder rate soared.

                Something similar happened in Baltimore with Section 8 housing but on a much smaller scale.
                When I was 21 I worked on K St, SW ???. rough neighborhood at the time.

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                • DTK
                  Confirmed User
                  • Feb 2002
                  • 4546

                  #9
                  Originally posted by L-Pink


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                  If this board had a "thanks" button, I'd click it
                  Arguing whether the Democratic or Republican party is better is like debating which steaming pile of shit is slightly less stinky.

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                  • epitome
                    So Fucking Lame
                    • Jun 2009
                    • 12156

                    #10
                    Originally posted by L-Pink
                    When I was 21 I worked on K St, SW ???. rough neighborhood at the time.
                    Then the stadium and yuppies came for their $2500 two bedroom apartment rentals.

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                    • epitome
                      So Fucking Lame
                      • Jun 2009
                      • 12156

                      #11
                      Originally posted by DTK
                      The whole problem with 'ban this gun, ban that gun' is that
                      1. there are already 300+ million guns in this country
                      2. the hardcore bad guys (and insane people) are already armed to the teeth
                      3. the hardcore bad guys (and insane people) aren't going to give their weapons up
                      4. in the result of some 'ban', the hardcore bad guys (and insane people) can just get more weapons on the street


                      What hardcore gun control advocates don't get is...ummm...everything i just mentioned.

                      Honestly I don't know what the right answer is, but if you think gun control laws are the solution, you're being terribly unrealistic.
                      And what hardcore gun owners don't understand is that there are millions of people living without guns and doing just fine... With those hundreds of millions of guns all around them.

                      Sane gun owners don't worry me but fanatics in general scare me.

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                      • DTK
                        Confirmed User
                        • Feb 2002
                        • 4546

                        #12
                        Originally posted by StickyGreen
                        I don't know why people think you can stop bad things from happening without creating a total orwellian society...
                        Right, because in a a total orwellian society, the govt would have a monopoly on doing bad things. Except they wouldn't be bad things because the orwellian govt would be perpetrating said bad acts. Which would make them good acts because the orwellian govt committed them and.....fuck, my eyes just crossed.
                        Arguing whether the Democratic or Republican party is better is like debating which steaming pile of shit is slightly less stinky.

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                        • DTK
                          Confirmed User
                          • Feb 2002
                          • 4546

                          #13
                          Originally posted by epitome
                          And what hardcore gun owners don't understand is that there are millions of people living without guns and doing just fine... With those hundreds of millions of guns all around them.

                          Sane gun owners don't worry me but fanatics in general scare me.
                          You didn't address my real point at all.
                          Arguing whether the Democratic or Republican party is better is like debating which steaming pile of shit is slightly less stinky.

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                          • epitome
                            So Fucking Lame
                            • Jun 2009
                            • 12156

                            #14
                            Originally posted by DTK
                            You didn't address my real point at all.
                            Your point is the bad people will still have or get guns. I don't dispute that.

                            I am just casually mentioning that some of the gun nuts that seem to post here worry me as much as those bad people everybody else is worried about.

                            Or that is what I was trying to say.

                            Fanatical people scare me.

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                            • buzzard
                              Confirmed User
                              • Aug 2002
                              • 1276

                              #15
                              That's how their plan to disarm citizens goes. Just like every tyrannical government has done the same since history of man...
                              Incrementally, One step at a time.

                              Ban Guns From Government.

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