Truth be told, in the past two years some of those laws have been struck down or put on hold pending constitutional review - the Supreme Court just knocked down Chicago's handgun ban.

Do you see what I'm saying here Brett? Your saying that Chicago has tough gun laws and homicides is going up, and I'm telling you that the Supreme Court just knocked down their twenty year ban on handguns and homicides have gone up.

Earlier you mentioned some city in GA where they are required to have handguns, yet it's only half as safe as my hometown that doesn't have such a silly law.

Why is it that every time you say something Brett the direct opposite is true?

The handgun ban in Chicago was just knocked down by the Supreme Court, and magically in the same year homicides goes up. Like Magic.

As I heard the crime and murder rate for the USA is down.

So 18 years of gun ban, and still shootings happen?

I bet after all the stats are in 2012 is up everywhere, despite the USA has gone down several years now for crime. 2012 might of changed that, not sure, have to wait and see!

I think it has been said the 10 year assault looking weapon ban did nothing...

That is magic... since the new laws won't go into effect until next year and it takes months to get your ccw license after applying for it.

I didn't teach firearms really - I wasn't the guy who came out with an M16 and show people how to use it. I was an instructor at AITS (Advanced Infantry Training School) which taught combat tactics to staff NCOs and officers.

However, everyone thinks they are James Bond and can respond to a tactical situation with no problems. Some people will lock up with pure fear, and others will not be able to pull the trigger because the possibility of taken a stranger's life when they don't know all of the facts stops them - Are you shooting the bad guy or are you shooting an off duty police officer who is trying to take out the shooter, or if you are in your house are you taking aim at the robber or your armed neighbor who saw someone break into your house?

You break into my house at 3am and set off my alarm, the local police would be able to respond quicker than I would. By the time I woke up and figured out what was going on it would be over.

No, people who hunt don't know at all. Shooting at an animal and taking the life of another person is two completely different things. Taking someone's life and comparing to kicking them could not be further apart.

Shooting at a range in a safe environment where no one is shooting back at you vs potentially killing someone is two utterly different things.

WTF, Rochard, SCOUTUS struck down Chicago’s longstanding handgun ban in June 2010. The hand gun ban was adopted March 19, 1982 and was never stayed during the legal process.

The 7th Circuit court struck down the state wide concealed carry ban (720 ILCS 5/24-2) Dec 11 2012 which was passed in 1994 and also was not stayed during the appeal process.

There are multiple firearm laws that have been in place since the early 1980s, which helped to cut the homicide rate in half - from a high of 900 to 400.

Over the past two or three years multiple laws have been struck down, including laws about carrying concealed weapons and carrying handguns in public places. During this time, homicides rise.

Meanwhile, in gun crazy land, the gun nuts are working over time to get these laws over turned and are being successful, and then telling us that the "most strict gun laws in the country" are a fail because Chicago had 500 homicides... The truth is when gun laws were in place they reduced homicides, and now that they are being removed homicides are going up. This is proof that gun laws work.

It's common sense: More firearms equals more firearm crimes.

Chicago put gun laws into place that reduced homicides by half, from a high of 900 to 400.

A number of gun laws were struct down over the past two or three years, including laws about carrying weapons in public places and carrying concealed weapons, which resulted in homicides going up this year.

Seems to me that gun laws work, and removing them fails.

http://chicagocrimescenes.blogspot.r...go+murder+rate

good history of murder in Chicago.

That was meant to be read tongue-in-cheek.

The murder rate has not just jumped, it remands statistically the same since 2004, despite the unconstitutional hand gun ban.

What does the gun law in Georgia have to do with your town? More guns owned by legal citizens proved to lower the crime rate for THAT town, did Lincoln pass a gun law?