The NRA Myth of Arming the Good Guys

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  • GrantMercury
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    • Jul 2012
    • 1626

    #1

    The NRA Myth of Arming the Good Guys

    Mass shootings in the US are on the rise?and ordinary citizens with guns don't stop them.

    "The only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun," declared the NRA's Wayne LaPierre in a press conference a week after Newtown, the same day bells tolled at the National Cathedral and the devastated town mourned its 28 dead. (That day a gunman in Pennsylvania also murdered three people and wounded a state trooper shortly before LaPierre gave his remarks.) LaPierre explained that it was a travesty for a school principal to face evil unarmed, and he called for gun-wielding security officers to be deployed in every school in America.

    As many commentators noted, it was particularly callous of the NRA to double down on its long-standing proposal to fight gun violence with more guns while parents in Newtown were burying their first graders. But more importantly, the NRA's argument is bereft of supporting evidence. A closer look reveals that their case for arming Americans against mass shooters is nothing more than a cynical ideological talking point?one dressed up in appeals to heroism and the defense of constitutional freedom, and wholly reliant on misdirection and half truths. If only Sandy Hook's principal had been packing heat, the argument goes, she could've stopped the mass killer. There's just one little problem with this: Not a single one of the 62 mass shootings we studied in our investigation has been stopped this way?even as the nation has been flooded with millions of additional firearms and a barrage of recent laws has made it easier than ever for ordinary citizens to carry them in public places, including bars, parks, and schools.
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  • Barry-xlovecam
    It's 42
    • Jun 2010
    • 18083

    #2
    Gun bans in the USA is a red herring argument.

    There are somewhere between 250 million and 420 million registered and unregistered firearms in the USA.

    OK, they pass a gun ban then what? Start a war on guns and start knocking on citizens' doors to take their legally registered firearms ... How may gun deaths do you think that will achieve?

    10K 20K 30K 50K -- that would start a civil war here.

    I am sorrowful of the mass killings of innocent schoolchildren by a nutcase with guns. The guy who lit the house on fire and laid in ambush for the firefighters was a shitstain ex-murderer that should have never been paroled -- as a convicted murderer he was banned from holding a firearm -- what good did it do? He had killed his grandmother with a hammer I read so he was a confirmed psycho-killer and is a best case argument for capital punishment.

    We have a large number of returning soldiers from overseas -- why not station them on guard duty in schools? A friendly soldier patrolling with a machine gun for public protection is not such a bad thing in these circumstances notwithstanding posse comitatus concerns that would have to be addressed.

    Arming teachers is a bad idea. When I think back to my schooldays I can't think of many teachers that I would have trusted carrying pistols ...

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    • Mr Pheer
      So Fucking Banned
      • Dec 2002
      • 22083

      #3






      Why shoould I have to give up my rights? So I can just become a helpless victim?

      I dont think so. Arm more citizens.

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      • Rochard
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        • Dec 2001
        • 75733

        #4
        There were armed guards in Columbine and that didn't change a damn thing.

        I'm okay with the good guys having the firearms. We need to figure out way to prevent the mentally ill from getting them. That's the key.
        Herschel Savage
        Brooklyn, NY

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        • GrantMercury
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          • Jul 2012
          • 1626

          #5
          Originally posted by Barry-xlovecam


          OK, they pass a gun ban then what? Start a war on guns and start knocking on citizens' doors to take their legally registered firearms ... How may gun deaths do you think that will achieve?
          What is it with the hysterics? Who suggested that? Why does any discussion about gun regulation lead to huge leaps of assumption and silly scenarios?
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          • NETbilling
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            • Jan 2002
            • 8598

            #6
            Start by banning assault weapons except for military and peace officers


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            • GrantMercury
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              • Jul 2012
              • 1626

              #7
              Originally posted by Barry-xlovecam

              A friendly soldier patrolling with a machine gun for public protection is not such a bad thing in these circumstances notwithstanding posse comitatus concerns that would have to be addressed.
              Jesus Christ.
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              • GrantMercury
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                • Jul 2012
                • 1626

                #8
                Originally posted by Mr Pheer






                Why shoould I have to give up my rights? So I can just become a helpless victim?

                I dont think so. Arm more citizens.
                Fuck that.

                BTW - Adam Lanza's mother had plenty of guns...and she was a victim.

                We need to take the country back from the fucking gun nuts.
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                • Mr Pheer
                  So Fucking Banned
                  • Dec 2002
                  • 22083

                  #9
                  Originally posted by GrantMercury
                  We need to take the country back from the fucking gun nuts.
                  I agree. Shoot them.

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                  • Mr Pheer
                    So Fucking Banned
                    • Dec 2002
                    • 22083

                    #10
                    Originally posted by NETbilling
                    Start by banning assault weapons except for military and peace officers
                    Why is everybody worried about assault weapons?

                    The percentage of crime committed with assault weapons is minimal compared to the amount committed with handguns.

                    Adam Lanza didnt even use an assault weapon, the media just jumped all over it, and the sheep believed it, because it was stated that he had a bushmaster AR15 in his car.

                    NEWSFLASH: He didnt shoot those kids in his car.

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                    • GrantMercury
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                      • Jul 2012
                      • 1626

                      #11
                      Originally posted by NETbilling
                      Start by banning assault weapons except for military and peace officers
                      QTF.

                      Only FREAKS want assault rifles and high-capacity clips. Not hunters. Not homeowners. Not single gals who want to carry for protection.

                      Paranoid, creepy FREAKS want these

                      A Barrett M82 50-Caliber Sniper Rifle - sold legally online.

                      Start by banning the sale of these weapons of war. It's FUCKING RIDICULOUS that any kook with vein throbbing in his head can get these things. There is NO PURPOSE for such a thing but to kill en masse.
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                      • Rochard
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                        • Dec 2001
                        • 75733

                        #12
                        Originally posted by GrantMercury
                        BTW - Adam Lanza's mother had plenty of guns...and she was a victim.
                        That's just it. You never see it coming. Ever. One moment life is wonderful, and the next moment your unconscious.

                        Doesn't matter if you have a firearm or not. It only matters who gets the first shot.
                        Herschel Savage
                        Brooklyn, NY

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                        • Mr Pheer
                          So Fucking Banned
                          • Dec 2002
                          • 22083

                          #13
                          Originally posted by GrantMercury
                          QTF.

                          Only FREAKS want assault rifles and high-capacity clips. Not hunters. Not homeowners. Not single gals who want to carry for protection.

                          Paranoid, creepy FREAKS want these

                          A Barrett M82 50-Caliber Sniper Rifle - sold legally online.
                          Ok, I can see your point. Semi-auto assault rifles are evil. Ban them all.

                          But this bolt-action rifle with just a 5-round magazine is ok?



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                          • buzzard
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                            • Aug 2002
                            • 1276

                            #14
                            GFY is full of Supposed "Men" that have never even been in a fight.
                            I'm not surprised the pussification of America is Here.

                            The Ban should be on government, If you are associated in any way, shape or form with government, you are NOT allowed at any time to posess a firearm.

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                            • GFED
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                              • May 2002
                              • 8121

                              #15
                              Originally posted by buzzard
                              GFY is full of Supposed "Men" that have never even been in a fight.
                              I'm not surprised the pussification of America is Here.

                              The Ban should be on government, If you are associated in any way, shape or form with government, you are NOT allowed at any time to posess a firearm.
                              Pussification... I thought NutnFancy was the only person that used that word.
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