NRA Press conference : "Armed cops in every school by January 1st"

[2MuchMark]

I just can't believe it. The NRA's "press conference", which was just a speech with no questions allowed to be asked, called for Armed police in every school, and for a "Mentally Ill Registry".

Please tell me no one here will defend this bs.

[woj]

just armed police? we need a team like this at every school, covering every entrance:

[selena]

Originally Posted by **********

I just can't believe it. The NRA's "press conference", which was just a speech with no questions allowed to be asked, called for Armed police in every school, and for a "Mentally Ill Registry".

Please tell me no one here will defend this bs.

Are you kidding? This is GFY. Of *course* someone here will defend it.

However, that someone will not be me.

[_Richard_]

Originally Posted by **********

I just can't believe it. The NRA's "press conference", which was just a speech with no questions allowed to be asked, called for Armed police in every school, and for a "Mentally Ill Registry".

Please tell me no one here will defend this bs.

a press conference to say the worst things possible

hmm

[BlackCrayon]

shut up you stupid canadian. you don't understand our proud violent gun culture. what does it matter to you? stop sucking off the american porn market!

[kane]

The high school I went to as a kid has had an armed cop in it most of the time for the last several years.

The police department in that town now has a full time "school resource officer." They have an office in the school, walk around the school and deal with the kids.

[Mr Pheer]

All of the school shootings in the past years, and someone has a problem with a couple of cops at every school?

I dont have a problem with it. But my kid doesnt go to a public school either.

[epitome]

Originally Posted by kane

The high school I went to as a kid has had an armed cop in it most of the time for the last several years.

The police department in that town now has a full time "school resource officer." They have an office in the school, walk around the school and deal with the kids.

Mine too and since my boyfriend is a decade younger than me he actually went to school when they had them. They were kind of like police officers and manly men that also acted as pseudo guidance counselors for the guys in the school. Pretty sure every secondary school in MD has them now.

[epitome]

I just asked my boyfriend and his said his SRO was actually shot in the line of duty and was offered that instead of desk work. So he was a first responder and fit for duty but not well enough to be out in the street all day. Good alternative for injured cops not cleared for patrol but not ready for retirement.

[Max Potential]

I went to high school in the '80s and we had 3 cops full time at our school. 1 was plain clothes, and 2 were in full uniform. The plain clothes guy had his own office and was there all year around, the 2 in uniform changed from week to week.

All 3 had pistols in full view at all times. Based on the the convo from my niece who now goes to the same school, that is still the same scenario today. Pretty much everyone knew the plain clothes guy as 'officer Garrett' and were respectful and friends with him.

Many times the kids would turn to the cop if they had a problem instead of the principal or other school authorities. Never saw a problem with it myself, and actually found it comforting many times just knowing those guys were there.

There were a number of times throughout the 4 years I was there that guns were confiscated from students, but as far as I know no one was ever shot or killed.

Considering the number of shootings at schools in recent years, and the fact that there are 300 million guns in this country, why would this be a problem?

[The_Peeper]

We would have cops come by with a Drug Dog and search classrooms and lockers, but beyond that I do not believe it is necessary.

I believe the media is more of a problem than anything it is sad

[epitome]

Oh and before someone thinks the schools with these officers must be in the ghetto, we're talking about the richest state in the nation, with the best ranked schools nationwide and the school my boyfriend went to is a Blue Ribbon School.

We didn't have SRO's before the 00's except in Baltimore City because it's... well, it's Baltimore City.

[J.R.]

[geedub]

Both my middle school and high school had a full time cop.. I am 27 now so it's not that long ago...

[Max Potential]

Armed security is ok for our president.
Armed security is ok for our airplanes & airports.
Armed security is ok for our public malls & shopping centers.

Why would armed security NOT be ok for our children's schools?

Had there been armed security at the CT school, would there be less children dead today?

[Rochard]

I went to school in the 1980s and we didn't have any cops at our school.

[StickyGreen]

The NRA's opinion is irrelevant, the constitution is what matters...

[Nookster]

I went to high school in the 90s in a very ghetto area of southern California, and we had several armed security guards. Not once (even since I've been there...over 10 years) has there been a shooting there. I've noticed a theme with these mass shootings. They always take place in nice suburban neighborhoods...never ghetto, and most of the shooters came from middle-class families. Proper education about violence and mental aptitude tests I agree with.

[onwebcam]

We already have them here in my County and have for years. Back when I went to Palm Beach High 20 something years ago we had them and drug dogs as well. What's the big deal? Much better solution to the "hysteria" than anything.

[AsianDivaGirlsWebDude]

There was usually an undercover narc assigned to our High School, but we could usually figure out who it was pretty quickly, so that everyone in the school knew within a day or two of their arrival on campus, lol.



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[kane]

Originally Posted by epitome

Mine too and since my boyfriend is a decade younger than me he actually went to school when they had them. They were kind of like police officers and manly men that also acted as pseudo guidance counselors for the guys in the school. Pretty sure every secondary school in MD has them now.

I know the officer that is the SRO at my old school is an actual regular cop, but typically they are newer officers who just get assigned the job and don't volunteer for it. For about five years they had the same guy doing it and he really liked it. Often times the kids would come to him for advice. All the kids knew who he was and he made it a point to know everyone's name and talk to as many kids as he could in a given day. It was a good situation for everyone.

That office ended up getting a job at a different police department in a different city and moved. Since then they have had a few different officers do it. They would like to hire someone specifically for that job, but budget cuts in the last few years with the recession hasn't allowed that to happen.

[DWB]

Better it is a trained professional than armed teachers. As I said in another post, this would be a great job for vets just coming out of the military and looking for work.

Something has to put an end to this. With all the media attention it is only going to create more and more copy cats. Countdown to the next mass gun shooting.

[Rochard]

Something which isn't being addressed here is that security guards in schools only protects schools - not movies, malls, or churches.

[Max Potential]

Originally Posted by Rochard

Something which isn't being addressed here is that security guards in schools only protects schools - not movies, malls, or churches.

Most malls already have security guards, but in regards to those things in general...

Those places are 'optional' places to visit, schools are not. Meaning you can choose not to go, or send your kids, to those places if you feel they are unsafe.

[Si]

Originally Posted by DWB

Better it is a trained professional than armed teachers. As I said in another post, this would be a great job for vets just coming out of the military and looking for work.

Something has to put an end to this. With all the media attention it is only going to create more and more copy cats. Countdown to the next mass gun shooting.

Just a countdown? How about odds one which country? Watch some recent movies like batman and it will probably be in there already, if not another movie or some music vid by an illuminati puppet, which is trying to take away guns and create a police state, but it's ok because more armed people will be around schools soon, but this isn't a police state tactic it is a nanny state tactic.

[DTK]

NRA is just a mouthpiece for the gun manufacturers. Nothing more.

[Si]

Originally Posted by DTK

NRA is just a mouthpiece for the gun manufacturers. Nothing more.

This is a true fuck up in politics, where lobbies can control the government, nothing more, nothing less. It's a lot easier to support your cause when you've got the bankroll to push your agenda.

[Grapesoda]

Originally Posted by **********

I just can't believe it. The NRA's "press conference", which was just a speech with no questions allowed to be asked, called for Armed police in every school, and for a "Mentally Ill Registry".

Please tell me no one here will defend this bs.

let's seem here... protect the weakest in our society and keep track of mentally ill killers... hmmmmm... is it just me or is that about the dumbest fucking idea I've ever heard?

[Grapesoda]

Originally Posted by Si

This is a true fuck up in politics, where lobbies can control the government, nothing more, nothing less. It's a lot easier to support your cause when you've got the bankroll to push your agenda.

just wait until you start messing around with Doctors

[videobunch]

Here you go;

http://www.inquisitr.com/448340/gun-...-carry-permit/

[Max Potential]

Originally Posted by videobunch

Here you go;

http://www.inquisitr.com/448340/gun-...-carry-permit/

It's funny how they use some sort of antique looking rifle hanging by a strap on that lady to illustrate the point on an article about concealed weapons.

This sounded good in the article though;

"The rules that the school board voted unanimously on are also very strict. For teachers to carry a pistol, they must have a Texas license to carry a concealed handgun, must be authorized to carry by the district, must receive training in crisis management and hostile situations, and must only carry ammunition designed to minimize the risk of ricocheting bullets, which is what air marshals do on airplanes."

[videobunch]

I liked ;

"As previously reported by The Inquisitr, the idea to arm the teachers is not a new one to Israel, either. After a school massacre in the 1970s Israel decided to implement a a program of armed citizen guards in their schools. This program is known to work, since Israel has not suffered from a successful school shooting in decades since the program began.

In fact, arming the schools has proven to prevent attacks when actual potential killers have been shot dead before they could bring any harm to the children."

Originally Posted by Max Potential

It's funny how they use some sort of antique looking rifle hanging by a strap on that lady to illustrate the point on an article about concealed weapons.

This sounded good in the article though;

"The rules that the school board voted unanimously on are also very strict. For teachers to carry a pistol, they must have a Texas license to carry a concealed handgun, must be authorized to carry by the district, must receive training in crisis management and hostile situations, and must only carry ammunition designed to minimize the risk of ricocheting bullets, which is what air marshals do on airplanes."

[Max Potential]

Originally Posted by videobunch

I liked ;

"As previously reported by The Inquisitr, the idea to arm the teachers is not a new one to Israel, either. After a school massacre in the 1970s Israel decided to implement a a program of armed citizen guards in their schools. This program is known to work, since Israel has not suffered from a successful school shooting in decades since the program began.

In fact, arming the schools has proven to prevent attacks when actual potential killers have been shot dead before they could bring any harm to the children."

Agreed. What I don't understand with all these folks that are anti this concept...

When someone shows up at a school with a gun(s) and starts shooting people, then other people immediately to turn around and call in the authorities, i.e. the Armed Security Guards, to come and save them and everyone before everyone is killed.

Why not just allow those Armed Security Guards to be there already as the NRA is suggesting?

Just about EVERY article I have read about EVERY shooting in this country, or even elsewhere for that matter, ends with the original perpetrator being taken out by Armed Security Guards. What other solution is there really?

Why does this not just make sense to have them there at these places already as a preventative measure? ESPECIALLY our schools.

If they are already there as part of the norm to begin with, would it not take less time to end the situation if/when it arises?

What part of this is not just simple common sense in the day and age in which we live?

[DWB]

Originally Posted by Rochard

Something which isn't being addressed here is that security guards in schools only protects schools - not movies, malls, or churches.

I'm as anti-establishment as they come, but I know a problem when I see one and the USA has a serious gun problem. While on one hand it pains me to think about arms guards at schools, malls, churches, or anywhere else, I am afraid there is no other viable option.

Disarming the people isn't going to happen. Making it more difficult to buy weapons won't fix it. Keep tabs on mentally unstable people won't work. The only real solution is to put well trained armed guards in every gun free zone location.

Sadly, this turns the USA into more of a police state and into something you would expect to see in Venezuela or the worst parts of Brazil. You have the TSA at airports, now going to train and bus stations. The National Guard is now showing up at sporting and other public events. Road check-points on highways in various places. Now soon to have armed guards at schools, malls, and even office buildings. Dark days ahead for sure. It is sad that the gun culture of America is going to eventually be what completely controls them and every aspect of their lives, and that is exactly what the government will do. Create the problem, spread fear, offer a solution.

[vdbucks]

Cops & metal detectors and such in schools are nothing new for any school in bloodymore murderland (Baltimore). By now I'm sure most of the county schools have them too thanks to all the white suburban "gangstas"...

[BlackCrayon]

the main problem with having 'armed guards' in school is, how long until they shoot a student by mistake. what will it take to have shots fired? "it really looked like a gun"..sure you'll say oh they shouldn't of had a fake gun at school or whatever but shit will still hit the fan.

[sandman!]

lock up all the mentally ill

[BlackCrayon]

Originally Posted by kane

I know the officer that is the SRO at my old school is an actual regular cop, but typically they are newer officers who just get assigned the job and don't volunteer for it. For about five years they had the same guy doing it and he really liked it. Often times the kids would come to him for advice. All the kids knew who he was and he made it a point to know everyone's name and talk to as many kids as he could in a given day. It was a good situation for everyone.

That office ended up getting a job at a different police department in a different city and moved. Since then they have had a few different officers do it. They would like to hire someone specifically for that job, but budget cuts in the last few years with the recession hasn't allowed that to happen.

that sounds better than the armed guards situation. more of a community feeling and someone kids can go to rather than just a fear based environment with armed guards at the door.

[bronco67]

I hate the NRA -- especially that stain of a human being Wayne LaPierre, but I think an armed guard at every public school is a good idea. Maybe a retired cop with a Glock wouldn't be able to stop a body-armored intruder with an AR15, but that weirdo wouldn't show up at a school if he knew there was armed opposition waiting for him.

The scum who do crimes like this are essentially cowards. They want the softest target possible, and to NOT get into an exchange of gunfire. Why do do you think they blow their heads off as soon as the cops arrive? It's mystifying to me why they even bother wearing body armor.

It would be a good deterrent to have a cop or armed security guarding the schools. We all know you can't put armed guards everywhere in society, but at the very least, children should be protected from these nutjobs.