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  • ThunderBalls
    So Fucking Banned
    • Oct 2002
    • 2926

    #241
    Originally posted by Vendzilla
    stay out of our conversations, you are clearly ill equipped mentally for it. What was said was the PEN is Mightier than the Sword, the first time it was said was in the play I quoted and the cardinal that used the pen to disarm the crown, give me your address so I can get you a copy of hooked on phonics moron!

    What a fucking idiot, first you try to bash me for trying to compare a sword to a gun, then you post famous quotes doing just that, go play in the street!

    You're exactly the reason guns should be regulated. You make Johnnyclips seem like a genius you senile old fuck.

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    • Rochard
      Jägermeister Test Pilot
      • Dec 2001
      • 75733

      #242
      Originally posted by Mutt
      It's can't be debated that the 2nd Amendment gives the citizens the right to own a gun - when it was written the times were very different, protecting your person, your family and property and yes, defending yourself against your own government - the founding fathers weren't that confident that what they set up would work/last. and it didn't, a Civil War was fought.

      BUT............... while the Amendment does give citizens the right to bear arms, it doesn't say you have the right to bear ALL or ANY arms. Supreme Court has held that states can legislate restrictions on gun/arms ownership.

      What happens when we start producing incredible high tech guns - guns that have guided bullets that can go down your street, turn the corner, travel cross town, and right through your cheating girlfriend's window? NRA will defend ownership of them.

      Defending yourself and your family, your property - a shotgun or handgun will do the job.
      The 2nd Amendment was written for a number of reasons... In fact, the government expected it's armed citizens to protect the government by suppressing insurrection and repelling invasion. It was also meant for self defense, but this was in a time when law enforcement barely existed and was usually hours away. These items are no longer issues - we have law enforcement and we have a massive military force that insures we will never be invaded.

      I have an assault rifle - An AR15. For the love of god, why does anyone need this? To hunt rabbits?
      Herschel Savage
      Brooklyn, NY

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      • Vendzilla
        Biker Gnome
        • Mar 2004
        • 23200

        #243
        Originally posted by Rochard
        So you are saying that cops have bad aim but rent-a-cops would be much better.
        quit making things up, never said anything about rent a cops. Rent a cops are usually limited on size of ammo and a 38 won't always put down someone.

        I think it's pretty bad that we as a nation have to even talk about putting protection at our schools. the government just gets bigger, taxes go up because the government needs to waste more money on things that don't work. I mean you think the Pope is safe in that funny car of his? A 50 BMG would go right thru that. That's what that round was made for.
        the world is messed up, making it baby proof is NOT going to make it better
        Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
        think about that

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        • Max Potential
          Confirmed User
          • Apr 2008
          • 1045

          #244
          Originally posted by Rochard
          I have an assault rifle - An AR15. For the love of god, why does anyone need this? To hunt rabbits?
          Wait, so you have an AR15, but you think no one else should be able to?

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          • Vendzilla
            Biker Gnome
            • Mar 2004
            • 23200

            #245
            Originally posted by ThunderBalls
            You're exactly the reason guns should be regulated. You make Johnnyclips seem like a genius you senile old fuck.
            I hear a lot of opinion, but no substance, try again when you're ready.

            BTW, moron, my guns are either registered or handed down, hence they are regulated, where did I say they shouldn't be regulated? Senility would be where you imagine things that aren't there right? Like you thinking I'm for not regulating guns. That would be irresponsible.
            Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
            think about that

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            • Max Potential
              Confirmed User
              • Apr 2008
              • 1045

              #246
              Originally posted by Rochard
              Armed guards at school is not a solution at all. They had armed guards at Columbine and fifteen kids died and another twenty-one were shot and injured.
              "That?s right, but it isn?t like the deputy was sitting around eating doughnuts during the Columbine massacre. He traded fire (that is, he drew fire) with Harris for an extended period of time, during which Harris?s gun jammed. The deputy and the backup he immediately called for exchanged fire with the shooters a second time and helped begin the evacuation of students, all before the SWAT teams and the rest of the cavalry arrived, and before Harris and Klebold killed themselves in the library. Harris and Klebold had an assault plan ? a sloppy plan, but a plan nonetheless. They had dozens of IEDs, some of which detonated, others of which did not. And there were two of them. In this highly chaotic tactical environment, the deputy acted both bravely and prudently, and who knows how many lives he saved by engaging Harris."

              Source: http://www.nationalreview.com/corner...daniel-foster#
              Last edited by Max Potential; 12-22-2012, 08:25 AM.

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              • Minte
                Babemeister
                • Jun 2001
                • 7081

                #247
                That's it?

                Everytime I log on to this board I hear from someone how smart they are. And anyone that doesn't agree with them is an idiot.

                Why haven't any of you geniuses done anything with that superior intellect.


                Originally posted by BlackCrayon
                You might not be as anonymous as you think you are.

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                • Max Potential
                  Confirmed User
                  • Apr 2008
                  • 1045

                  #248
                  Originally posted by Rochard
                  Armed guards at school is not a solution at all. They had armed guards at Columbine and fifteen kids died and another twenty-one were shot and injured.
                  From the same article as mentioned above;

                  "At Newtown, Lanza was delayed from entering the school?s main entrance, and had to shoot his way in through a security window. His tactics were far less sophisticated than Harris? and Klebold?s. It?s not implausible to think, afforded the time to respond by Lanza?s delay at the front door, an armed officer could have put him down before he began killing in earnest. Not a guarantee, but far from implausible."

                  Source: http://www.nationalreview.com/corner...daniel-foster#

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                  • BlackCrayon
                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                    • Jun 2003
                    • 19634

                    #249
                    Originally posted by Minte
                    That's it?

                    Everytime I log on to this board I hear from someone how smart they are. And anyone that doesn't agree with them is an idiot.

                    Why haven't any of you geniuses done anything with that superior intellect.
                    Who is calling themselves geniuses? You won't find me calling anyone an idiot if they don't agree with me. I can't speak for everyone but its typically people for the status quo who get the most upset. I am just running my business and come here to break up the work day.

                    A difference in opinion and solutions doesn't mean superior intellect. You are attaching that to it. You have made numerous comments in the past that its too 'blue collar' here and basically infer that those who aren't as successful as yourself couldn't or shouldn't have good ideas and contributions. Thats what the video was for, to show you how silly that is.
                    you don't know you're wearing a leash if you sit by the peg all day..

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                    • tony286
                      lurker
                      • Aug 2002
                      • 57021

                      #250
                      Originally posted by Rochard
                      The 2nd Amendment was written for a number of reasons... In fact, the government expected it's armed citizens to protect the government by suppressing insurrection and repelling invasion. It was also meant for self defense, but this was in a time when law enforcement barely existed and was usually hours away. These items are no longer issues - we have law enforcement and we have a massive military force that insures we will never be invaded.

                      I have an assault rifle - An AR15. For the love of god, why does anyone need this? To hunt rabbits?
                      Bingo it wasn't to rise up. It was to protect the government.

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                      • Minte
                        Babemeister
                        • Jun 2001
                        • 7081

                        #251
                        Originally posted by BlackCrayon
                        Who is calling themselves geniuses? You won't find me calling anyone an idiot if they don't agree with me. I can't speak for everyone but its typically people for the status quo who get the most upset. I am just running my business and come here to break up the work day.

                        A difference in opinion and solutions doesn't mean superior intellect. You are attaching that to it. You have made numerous comments in the past that its too 'blue collar' here and basically infer that those who aren't as successful as yourself couldn't or shouldn't have good ideas and contributions. Thats what the video was for, to show you how silly that is.
                        Then why bother jumping in to this. I made the comment to newnick who did call me and anyone else who doesn't agree with him an idiot.
                        And the fact is, almost everytime I log in here it's the same thing. Self proclaimed geniuses that have done nothing but talk shit on a BBS. Not terribly impressive.
                        You might not be as anonymous as you think you are.

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                        • BlackCrayon
                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                          • Jun 2003
                          • 19634

                          #252
                          Originally posted by Minte
                          Then why bother jumping in to this. I made the comment to newnick who did call me and anyone else who doesn't agree with him an idiot.
                          And the fact is, almost everytime I log in here it's the same thing. Self proclaimed geniuses that have done nothing but talk shit on a BBS. Not terribly impressive.
                          I don't know. Its really a waste of time for everyone involved.

                          I don't agree that those who want changes have to be involved in the process in order to be able to have such an opinion. You mock them with your constant posting of paying for plane tickets to collect guns. Yet you take issue with newnick doing the exact same thing?
                          you don't know you're wearing a leash if you sit by the peg all day..

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                          • Vendzilla
                            Biker Gnome
                            • Mar 2004
                            • 23200

                            #253
                            Originally posted by tony286
                            Bingo it wasn't to rise up. It was to protect the government.
                            No, wrong, you do know what is considered a militia now and when the constitution was drafted are two different things right? The Militia is the people


                            A militia, when properly formed, are in fact the people themselves...and include all men capable of bearing arms." (Richard Henry Lee, Additional Letters from the Federal Farmer (1788) at 169)

                            What, Sir, is the use of a militia? It is to prevent the establishment of a standing army, the bane of liberty.... Whenever Governments mean to invade the rights and liberties of the people, they always attempt to destroy the militia, in order to raise an army upon their ruins." (Rep. Elbridge Gerry of Massachusetts, spoken during floor debate over the Second Amendment [ I Annals of Congress at 750 {August 17, 1789}])

                            "Congress have no power to disarm the militia. Their swords, and every other terrible implement of the soldier, are the birthright of an American... The unlimited power of the sword is not in the hands of either the federal or state government, but, where I trust in God it will ever remain, in the hands of the people" (Tench Coxe, Pennsylvania Gazette, Feb. 20, 1788)
                            Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
                            think about that

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                            • ColBigBalls
                              Confirmed User
                              • Aug 2003
                              • 1733

                              #254
                              Yup cause the world works like it did back in 1788

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                              • Mutt
                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                • Sep 2002
                                • 34431

                                #255
                                Originally posted by Rochard
                                The 2nd Amendment was written for a number of reasons... In fact, the government expected it's armed citizens to protect the government by suppressing insurrection and repelling invasion.
                                that's the Militia part - the United States was born of revolution against tyranny, it was a brand new country held together by a piece of paper, in theory an amazing idea, but no guarantee it would work - they wanted to make sure the citizens could fight back against a government that went rogue.
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