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  • Rochard
    Jägermeister Test Pilot
    • Dec 2001
    • 75733

    #196
    Originally posted by JP-pornshooter
    1. Schools are already very hard hit. Many elementary schools no longer have a nurse, librarian or computer teacher, cant imagine they can afford a security guard.
    2. I would be concerned putting a vet from say Afghanistan in as a security guard at a school, he might be slightly trigger happy?
    My kid's school has a nurse that comes to school once a week. I find this stunning.
    Herschel Savage
    Brooklyn, NY

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    • TCLGirls
      Confirmed User
      • Feb 2010
      • 3068

      #197
      Originally posted by tony286
      25 percent gun, ammo and gun license tax. Like a sin tax on liquor and cigs. A school protection tax.
      Although I agree with an additional tax on firearms sales...the argument against that is it is illegal to tax a Constitutional right.

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      • JP-pornshooter
        Confirmed User
        • Sep 2006
        • 4007

        #198
        Originally posted by Vendzilla

        Did you see the picture I posted of the mini 14, does the same thing as an AR-15, same ammo, same capacity. Yet it's not a assault weapon. Like most in this thread, the politicians know jack shit about guns, assault ammo? the .223 is a tiny bullet used for hunting varmits
        but basically this gun has the characteristics of an assault rifle and hence should be banned. if you need to shoot varmits you can buy a 22LR.
        you know the .223 is an assault type ammo.

        Originally posted by Lester Burnham

        One universal truth is when people are scared, they will happily give up their rights and hope the government protects them from the boogie man.
        give up what rights?
        and dont we pay the government, police, military to protect us all from the boogie man?
        perhaps one area we should leave to professionals and give them the tools to keep everyone out of harms way and make everyone feel safe so there is no need for a gun in the car..
        "Obscenity is whatever gives the Judge an erection." -- Author Unknown

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        • Rochard
          Jägermeister Test Pilot
          • Dec 2001
          • 75733

          #199
          Originally posted by Vendzilla
          Don't pay attention to him, he's a moron. Some people don't get that a gun is an inadament object, it has no will of it's own, more people die from misdiagnosis from doctors every year than from guns, so with their reasoning, doctors are next.
          I have to pay to register my car. Why don't we have to pay to register firearms?

          Why do we need a license to drive a car, yet we don't require a license to own a firearm?
          Herschel Savage
          Brooklyn, NY

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          • TCLGirls
            Confirmed User
            • Feb 2010
            • 3068

            #200
            Originally posted by Vendzilla
            True, This! ?
            Beneath the rule of men entirely great
            The pen is mightier than the sword. Behold
            The arch-enchanters wand! ? itself is nothing! ?
            But taking sorcery from the master-hand
            To paralyse the Cæsars, and to strike
            The loud earth breathless! ? Take away the sword ?
            States can be saved without it!

            have you never read the stories of the 3 musketeers and Cardinal Richelieu who tried to take over France by disarming the country of the Musketeers?
            Are you trying to make an analogy to armed US Citizens taking up arms against the US Government?

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            • Lester Burnham
              Confirmed User
              • Aug 2006
              • 540

              #201
              Originally posted by JP-pornshooter
              We pay the government, police, military to protect us all from the boogie man?
              perhaps one area we should leave to professionals and give them the tools to keep everyone out of harms way and make everyone feel safe so there is no need for a gun in the car..
              That sounds awfully like a police state out of V for Vendetta (which is actually on point, as the Brits surrendered to a police state after children died in the comic/movie).

              In Washington, we literally have a camera on every corner. Now we get to look forward to federally funded law enforcement patrolling our schools.

              And no, I'm not a tin foil right winger living in West Virginia (actually, an Obama voting Dem that owns guns).

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              • tony286
                lurker
                • Aug 2002
                • 57021

                #202
                Originally posted by TCLGirls
                Although I agree with an additional tax on firearms sales...the argument against that is it is illegal to tax a Constitutional right.
                its not taxing the right its taxing the guns,bullets and licenses.

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                • tony286
                  lurker
                  • Aug 2002
                  • 57021

                  #203
                  Originally posted by TCLGirls
                  Are you trying to make an analogy to armed US Citizens taking up arms against the US Government?
                  thats the fantasy

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                  • Rochard
                    Jägermeister Test Pilot
                    • Dec 2001
                    • 75733

                    #204
                    Originally posted by tony286
                    25 percent gun, ammo and gun license tax. Like a sin tax on liquor and cigs. A school protection tax.
                    Maybe... But that is only a part of the problem. Just because you have a single armed guard doesn't mean he (she) will be able to stop a shooter. In the Columbine, officers showed up at the scene and the killings kept on going.

                    And this only protects schools - not shopping malls or movies. Or churches.

                    Then... By the time you require an armed guard to take out a shooter, it's already too late. The damage will have been done. This is like saying "The best way to handle drunk drivers to run them over after they have killed someone".
                    Herschel Savage
                    Brooklyn, NY

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                    • Vendzilla
                      Biker Gnome
                      • Mar 2004
                      • 23200

                      #205
                      Originally posted by TCLGirls
                      Are you trying to make an analogy to armed US Citizens taking up arms against the US Government?
                      no, i was stating you knew nothing of what the pen was mightier than the sword meant, I know all too well were that saying came from , I had a government teacher that was very enlightening about how people lose their rights and don't even know it.

                      You're the one that's afraid of citizens using their constitutional right to own a firearm. I'm keeping mine
                      Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
                      think about that

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                      • TCLGirls
                        Confirmed User
                        • Feb 2010
                        • 3068

                        #206
                        Originally posted by Vendzilla
                        no, i was stating you knew nothing of what the pen was mightier than the sword meant, I know all too well were that saying came from , I had a government teacher that was very enlightening about how people lose their rights and don't even know it.

                        I think you are mistaken:

                        "The idiom 'the pen is mightier than the sword' means that words and communication are more powerful than wars and fighting."
                        http://www.usingenglish.com/referenc...the+sword.html

                        ^^^ which is exactly what I said before.

                        You're the one that's afraid of citizens using their constitutional right to own a firearm. I'm keeping mine
                        What an odd and strange thing for you to say....given that I own two firearms.
                        Last edited by TCLGirls; 12-21-2012, 06:13 PM.

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                        • tony286
                          lurker
                          • Aug 2002
                          • 57021

                          #207
                          Originally posted by Rochard
                          Maybe... But that is only a part of the problem. Just because you have a single armed guard doesn't mean he (she) will be able to stop a shooter. In the Columbine, officers showed up at the scene and the killings kept on going.

                          And this only protects schools - not shopping malls or movies. Or churches.

                          Then... By the time you require an armed guard to take out a shooter, it's already too late. The damage will have been done. This is like saying "The best way to handle drunk drivers to run them over after they have killed someone".
                          actually i read they had an armed guard at columbine.
                          http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/1...n_2347096.html

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                          • Vendzilla
                            Biker Gnome
                            • Mar 2004
                            • 23200

                            #208
                            I'm done for the night, guns aren't the problem, I've been around them my whole life, I have shot just about every kind of gun there is. That's the biggest difference between a liberal and a conservative. America is a great country, liberals want to change that. I don't believe any tax, law or fee that infringes on constitutional rights is warranted. If we give that up, what do you want to give up next? Yeah I don't trust the government, I depend on them as little as I can, anyone that has not seen the rights we have lost over the last decade all in the name of security is blind. Good Night
                            Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
                            think about that

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                            • TCLGirls
                              Confirmed User
                              • Feb 2010
                              • 3068

                              #209
                              Originally posted by tony286
                              actually i read they had an armed guard at columbine.
                              http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/1...n_2347096.html
                              Prior to the Virgina Tech shooting, the school also had a security force that was described as "like a swat team"...didn't do crap.

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                              • Vendzilla
                                Biker Gnome
                                • Mar 2004
                                • 23200

                                #210
                                Originally posted by TCLGirls
                                I think you are mistaken:

                                "The idiom 'the pen is mightier than the sword' means that words and communication are more powerful than wars and fighting."
                                http://www.usingenglish.com/referenc...the+sword.html

                                ^^^ which is exactly what I said before.



                                What an odd and strange thing for you to say....given that I own two firearms.
                                The pen is mightier than the sword" is a metonymic adage coined by English author Edward Bulwer-Lytton in 1839 for his play Richelieu; Or the Conspiracy
                                Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
                                think about that

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