Are you watching the NRA press conference?

it is considered a high velocity round, due to the relatively light weight projectile and high energy load. it basically explodes on impact.

to be used on the range, no ammo taken home.
rules are rules.

1. Schools are already very hard hit. Many elementary schools no longer have a nurse, librarian or computer teacher, cant imagine they can afford a security guard.
2. I would be concerned putting a vet from say Afghanistan in as a security guard at a school, he might be slightly trigger happy?

and that is no problem, buy the ammo at the range then, and leave it there.
the range has safe storage.

agree 100% - this has to be examined and dealt with.

again why would we not want to limit those numbers, just because smoking, drugs and and the common cold may kill more people doesnt mean those people involuntarily dead from gun violence couldnt be a much smaller number, just by doing what common sense dictates:
ban on assault weapons and assault ammo.
thorough back ground check on new gun owners
buy back / amnesty for current legal owners of AR's (unless they have a very specific reason/license to own one of these weapons)

happy Christmas folks.

not hard with assault rifle, try something else

The NRA is the mouthpiece of the US gun manufacturers. Nothing more.


ps. I'm a gun owner and believe in a strong 2nd amendment

No, high velocity rounds do not explode on impact unless designed to do that. .223 are either hard or soft or hollow, big difference on what happens when they hit

What I read implies they don't follow that rule

I agree, pissed me off to see the under funding in schools as a parent. They didn't even have PE in High School
My range was on BLM land, no storage


not as long as the pharmacies have anything to say about it

Did you see the picture I posted of the mini 14, does the same thing as an AR-15, same ammo, same capacity. Yet it's not a assault weapon. Like most in this thread, the politicians know jack shit about guns, assault ammo? the .223 is a tiny bullet used for hunting varmits

i am also..
what i dont understand is why the NRA gets so much "time" on the news media.
if the media reduced the NRA to the level of press time they deserve then they would become much less important. personally i dont give a shit what NRA says or thinks, its basically a grass-root organization with strong lobby activity.
NRA members especially those in DC should be brought to public attention and who is behind sponsoring them.

it's a semi auto, just looks like an assault rifle. and that's not the only guns I shoot. I have flint lock horse pistols. I would rather be shot with an AR than one of those

What I find ironic is the NRA is a conservative organization and mostly supported by the right.

So what do they propose?

Let's spend $5 BILLION in taxpayer money (and that's conservative estimate) to put police officers in every school. Oh yea, let's have more federally funded law enforcement officials. TSA really worked out (umm..NOT).

One universal truth is when people are scared, they will happily give up their rights and hope the government protects them from the boogie man.

Any organization that's protecting a constitutional right deserves to be heard, sorry you think rights can be thrown away so easy without thought

NRA has more members than you think they do and have more going on than you think they do, they have been around more than 100 years. Brought to public attention? Now were on witch hunts? You really have a problem with freedom?

What I don't get is the time the news spent on the shooter, who gives a fuck?, Do you? why should we, he was a coward and should be dumped in an unmarked hole and forgotten.

thanx, I feel I'm better off protecting myself than relying on the police for anything

They arent protecting constitutional rights, they are protecting gun sales.

It will cost more than five billion dollars. On the local news here in Sacramento, California, they just reported it would cost at least one billion dollars. That's one state - granted, a large state, but still only one state.

That's the thing JP, it's not a grassroots organization anymore. It's been totally co-opted by the gun manufacturers.

A strong majority of NRA members are in favor of some tightening of gun laws (assault weapons, background checks, no guns for crazy people), but the leadership doesn't care. They're paid servants of the gun manufacturers.

Exactly this.

25 percent gun, ammo and gun license tax. Like a sin tax on liquor and cigs. A school protection tax.

True, This! ?
Beneath the rule of men entirely great
The pen is mightier than the sword. Behold
The arch-enchanters wand! ? itself is nothing! ?
But taking sorcery from the master-hand
To paralyse the Cæsars, and to strike
The loud earth breathless! ? Take away the sword ?
States can be saved without it!

have you never read the stories of the 3 musketeers and Cardinal Richelieu who tried to take over France by disarming the country of the Musketeers?