That dudes mom sure did a hell of a job protecting herself with her guns.

Way more innocent people have died due to the actions of the US military and it's allies than in random domestic shootings... of course I don't hear you complaining about that though, I guess little brown middle eastern babies don't count... the hundreds of thousands of Japanese people who got nuked don't count either...

And how many people are in the USA? Like probably close to 400 million now? How many innocent people have died in recent mass shootings? Like 60 or so? Yea man, innocent people in America are just dropping like flies... lol

I have complained about that plenty in the past. I don't support whats being carried out by the military at all. its all self serving and those dying are doing so for absolutely nothing to with freedom. i was just trying to point out how foolish the idea is that all of the tragedies are necessary to prevent possible future tyranny.

how many people have to die for it to count for you? the needlessness is what makes people so angry by these types of crimes. people are desensitized to hearing about brown people being killed by the military and gangsters shooting each other. 84 people died this year alone in mass shootings in the US. in comparison to the population, its not much but its a number that grows pretty much every year.

Because your shotgun is going to protect you from the government. Right.

84 out of 400 million. Okay, let's freak out and take away the guns from the millions of law-abiding citizens who had nothing to do with those 84 people.

Guns aren't the problem, crazy psychos who want to kill are the problem, and they are pretty rare.

How many guns were used in the Oklahoma City bombing? None? Then how did so many people die there anyways? Hmmm...

Want to blame the fertilizer that was in the truck? That is retarded. The blame lies in the heart of a psycho who wanted to kill.

Do you or do you not have a gun at home for protection? If you feel the need to have one then you are obviously concerned something could happen, right? All I said was I live somewhere that its not a worry for me. Could it happen? Of course, anything can happen anywhere. Anyhow you guys love your guys, so be it. I honestly don't care anymore. Its part of who you are. If you don't think there is a problem with gun violence in your country and you think the solution is to have more armed people. Let's see how that works out for you in a few years.

This can be attributed to things affecting mental health issues, such as the prevalence of mind-bending psychiatric drugs prescribed to children and entertainment that is more and more graphic and violent... not the access to guns, there's always been access to guns.

Another clown who would rather be completely helpless and defenseless in the face of tyranny rather than have some sort of fighting chance...

Damn. Be safe man.

SA is rough. No doubt about it. What have you found to be the best way to protect yourself there?

I don't think the rest of the world realizes yet that in 10, 20, or 30 years, a lot of what is happening in South Africa and other high crime areas of the world, will be coming directly to them. Things are not going to improve, they are only going to get worse. The US gov knows it, that is why they are slowly preparing for it.


Violent crime will eventually make it to whatever pristine area of the world you live in. Count on it. I hope it doesn't, but it will.

People who live in foreign countries watch this and say:

1-Guns been always available in USA.
2-Violence, crime and number of people going in jail keep rising in USA
3-Nothing is done to make this situation change.

So at least there's one sure thing: Guns are not part of the solution.

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84 is just mass shootings. the gun problem in general goes much further than mass shootings. 12,664 murders in the US in 2011. Of those, 8,583 were caused by guns.

well in canada, which is where bryan is violent crime is at a 30 year low. so basically it was more dangerous in the 70's than it is today. even in the U.S. violent crime has gone down five years straight.

Sounds like a lovely neighborhood.

Spare us with your pointless immature comments, jackass...

What happened between the 70's and now in Canada to reduce crime there?

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best quote ever and QFT

No Johnny, no one's ever heard of locking their doors... (insert 50 orange smiley faces here)

Not to mention the fact that the population of California is greater than the population of Canada. Great country btw, I use to live on PEI.

I own a fair amount of guns (some of which could be banned in the future). The reason I carry:

1) Personal Protection. My girlfriend had a sex offender stalker that was showing up at the apartment and her job, and the police refused to do anything about it. Also, as a black male, the chances I die to violence are exponentially higher than my lighter skinned friends, so I want to be prepared in case someone (whether law enforcement or a bad guy) mistakes me for some gangbanger (which has happened to me before).

2) Sporting. I love to hang out with friends and go target shooting and discuss firearms. Some guys like to go to the bars and drink beer together (BTW, alcohol is responsible for killing and maiming 10x the amount of firearm deaths). I do that, but I also like to go shooting and, frankly, blow shit up.

3) Money diversification. Guns and ammo are tangible assets that can be traded and sold. If the shit ever hits the fans, ammunition will be more valuable than gold. I have thousands of rounds in my gun safe, because if there is some unlike "oh shit" moment in the U.S., I will have something that will be very valuable and could save my life. If I need some money, I can always sell my FN SCAR and get $2K for it.

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Sorry. Just playing. Why don't you guys go outside and smell the air?

no rapists, murderers and meth labs around where i live that i know of and i still got guns :)

I live in the State of Washington, where meth labs are more common than churches.

actually I don't love my gun at all. I don't enjoy shooting the gun and I fully understand the repercussions of using the gun... ending someone's life is as about a serious as it gets.

you're making a lot of assumptions based on misconceptions and arrogance... do you really think you know how I feel? I don't think I've ever stated what's good for you or how you should live and how you think. or ever used derogatory language to describe you because I have a different opinion than you.

there are problems in the world and guns are NOT the cause... greed, selfishness and anger are the causes... I'm really not sure how you can perceive taking away guns as a means to abolish greed, anger and selfishness.

and what I'm seeing in the press now is a bunch of people self aggrandizing on the graves of 20 kids and that's about it :2 cents:

We Have a problem with Gun Violence! This is EXACTLY Why I have Home Protection.
I would rather know I have the ability to protect my children from crazies, and yep it is happening more and more with home invasions and such, than to cry like a baby when they are doing bad things to them. I do have a different outlook, because I am trained on many weapons, so I feel confident. Do I want the lady who was next to me in the CCW class protecting me, HELL no. I thought she was going to drop her gun or shoot someone on accident. Should that person of passed the class NO.

You will be one of the people who change their mind if something bad ever happens to you, or you one of those I would beat their ass. I guess this question doesn't matter since your country is peaches and cream. We get that, so don't fucking try to judge the place I live by yours!

wtf?

many homeland locations have been occupied in the United States history by foreign forces, INCLUDING THE WHITE HOUSE.

Details?

I have fire insurance if my house burns down. I have health insurance if I get sick, I have lots of different things for different reasons. Having a gun is just another insurance. Something you have and hope you never need.

Nice Walther and suppressor!! I have a Walther PPS (9mm) (Bond uses the PPS in the latest Bond books).

I need to get a suppressor before they are banned. They are legal in Washington (have to pay a huge tax though and wait 6 months).

Exactly. I hope I never have to use my fire extinguisher to protect my home from burning to the ground but I'll keep it around just in case.

He's doing the Canadian thing where they like to boast about the British Army occupying Washington during the War of 1812. Which happened way before any of us were born.

Oh ok, I was referring to way we occupy a country and establishes long term bases to keep an eye on things.

Most people seem to forget that your personal safety is your personal responsibility. Protect yourself first, call the police after it's safe to do so. When seconds count, the police are always minutes away.

I'd rather have a weapon and not need it than need a weapon and not have it. Just because you own a gun doesnt mean that you will ever have to use it to defend yourself or someone else in your lifetime. One would hope to never have to use it.

Everyone that says that they dont need a weapon, thats great I'm happy for you. But become a crime victim just one time and your attitude will change, if you live through the experience. I choose not to be a victim.

I got robbed at gun point back in '87 and I was with two other Marines. It's a fucked up feeling and no one wants to be the one to take that first bullet to the face so we kept our cool and no one got hurt. Even if he had a knife it would have been a fucked up situation. Who wants to get a major artery slashed for some pocket cash...

Fine. Lets play this out. It is also accurate to say that only 3% of 1% of Americans will use a gun to kill another American. So if 30% of adults in America own a gun and only .0003% of them are killing people with their guns, what is your fucking beef about people owning guns?

You are far more likely to die by being hit by a drunk driver than by a crazy man with a gun. Go ban alcohol and leave gun owners alone!