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I love this argument. Yes, a car can be driven into a crowd and can kill dozens quicker than a hand gun. Yet oddly enough we don't have people intentionally driving into crowds with the intentions of killing people. You can kill people with baseball bats and spoons and even duck tape if you really wanted to, but yet people always use guns. People use guns because it empowers them and gives them control.
Baseball bats are used for baseball. Cars are used for transportation. Spoons are used to eat with. Firearms are used to kill.
You can argue some firearms are used for hunting. But not hand guns. And not the Bushmaster this kid had today.Herschel Savage
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Some firearms are used for hunting. Some for self defense. Some for law enforcement. I certainly don't think all guns are meant for hunting. I agree it would be nice if we could outlaw being a crazy violent person, then baseball bats, knives, and spoons would all be used for their desired purpose.Giant Boob High Def Trifectas
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NiceOriginally posted by Jesus H ChristI fucking crackup on morons everytime I read that excuse. The first Amendment to the US constitution is the protection of free speech. The third Amendment to the constitution is No Soldier shall, in time of peace be quartered in any house, without the consent of the Owner.
So the second amendment must be about your hunting rights...
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I dont think they should ban guns. I think it should be a little harder to buy assault weapons and body armor.Comment
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Please. Since when do any of you smug Canadian queers give two shits about this sort of thing? If anything you relish in it. I bet you have been watching tv all day with quite the turgid erection. As if the dead kids were not bad enough... the army of Canadian whiners on their soapboxes we will all have to endure for the foreseeable future, unbearable.Comment
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Interesting statistics here:
http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0004888.html
I would have never guessed that out of 14,299 murder victims in 2008,
34% were killed by something other than a gun. Now, if guns were not
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Again, prohibition and the treatment of alcohol in early part of the last century is the best example when thinking about today's times and guns. You simply cannot ban firearms, the cat is already out the bag. Just regulate in a pragmatic and reasonably way.
Connecticut has some of the toughest gun laws in the country. Guess what? This tragedy STILL happened. Newton looks like something out of the Stepford Wives. If it can happen there, it can happy anywhere.
I prefer to not be a victim, thus the reason I have a conceal carry license and carry quite often, especially malls, parks (if allowed) and metro areas.Last edited by Lester Burnham; 12-14-2012, 07:54 PM.Comment
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Yea, like "asking questions" is going to help anything, as if people don't ever answer questions with lies...
You either sell guns or you don't, you can't be expected to thoroughly interrogate a customer and always be suspicious of their intentions. That's what we have things like background checks for anyways...Comment
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Why not add murder via car accidents, which is 15x the amount.
Guess its time to ban cars.
Or how about LEGAL prescription drugs. Which surpasses even illegal drugs.
Guess its time to ban prescriptions.
Gimme a break. ONE guy does something, suddenly we ban every one else?
If that's the case then pens should be banned, because Al Capone once stabbed some one with one.
Logic. Use it, for once.Email - popuplace [at] yahoo [dot] comComment
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I agree..
Problem here is, I believe they said he took his Mom's weapons.
I am not sure if very many of these things were quickly decided. You can buy say 100 rounds a week, and so on.
In this case it "APPEARS" he only used the hand guns which he would of had to have only 3 to 5 clips for each hand gun if it held 12-15 rounds each.Comment
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Doesn't refute anything.. Guns were banned in Australia after this mass shooting (except rifles etc for farmers and sports shooters pistols). Mass shootings in the 15 years since the ban: 0
Different scenario though.. Aussies never came in the pants about guns.. I grew up firing them went I visited my grandads farm. But you never saw them around in towns.. it was weird for someone to have one.. If you had issues you fought someone like a man.. We never really lived in fear of being broken into or whatever and don't really give a shit about criminals shooting criminals which happens pretty rarely. Also we have a good public health system.. don't have a fraction of the crazies running around the streets like in the US.Comment
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Nope, it's proof you don't know what you're talking about. The ban came AFTER and BECAUSE of Bryant.Originally posted by Jesus H Christ
That said America is a different situation. The gun buyback and ban would probably not work there. You guys probably just need better background checks and so on. I know someone here that got put on a 5 year gun license ban because they threatened someone. Hard to police a lot of this stuff though - most of these kids use their parent's guns.. forcing family members of kids on prescription drugs or with mental issues to have tougher licensing or storage restrictions is going to infringe on their rights.Comment
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I recall a pretty dodgy and selective stat mining thing promoted by the pro gun lobby afterwards saying the same thing. Take it with a grain of salt if it's the same thing because it was bullshit. That said it's been many more years since and I haven't checked the raw stats so I won't argue from a position of ignorance. You could be totally right. Got an xmas party to go to right now, not going to spend the next hour or two poring over stats right now although it would be nice to know for sure. Just bear in mind that not many homes really had guns before the ban.. at all.. it's not like the US, no criminals went "cool we can do home invasions now everyone is disarmed" everyone was mostly disarmed anyways.. you'd be committing an error of cultural judgement there. Home invasions aren't something that anyone worries about at all in the slightest. Thefts and assaults yes. The only people worried about armed invasions are drug dealers and maybe some especially rich people.Originally posted by Jesus H Christ
We currently have an alcohol (or drug) induced violence problem. The last random act of violence we got up in arms about here was a guy that went on a "rampage" late one night in a party district and punched four different people, one of whom fell over hit their head and died. No offence but I'd much rather live in a society where we worry about spree punchers.Last edited by bhutocracy; 12-14-2012, 10:24 PM.Comment
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What about banning the sale of assault rifles, or huge magazines - by the manufacturer? If the manufacturer can't sell them, fewer nuts will possess them.
They should be banned. They are weapons of war. Nobody hunts with an assault rifle. Nobody needs one to stop a home invasion. They are designed to kill people en mass - that's it. Rapid fire guns are what the psychos use in these mass killings. Outlaw the sale of them. If the gun nuts don't like it, tough shit. We have a right to live without weekly massacres.
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In many states it is perfectly legal to own a fully automatic weapon, a short barrel rifle, a silencer, or a short barrel shotgun. There is some paperwork involved and a $200 tax, but perfectly legal.
An assault weapon is not classified as an assault rifle. The term assault rifle confuses the fuck out of everyone is used incorrectly by the media.
Assault Weapon = semi automatic rifle with a detachable magazine, plus two of the features listed above.In United States politics and law, an assault weapon is a variety of semi-automatic firearms that have certain features generally associated with military firearms, including assault rifles. The 1994 Federal Assault Weapons Ban, which expired on September 13, 2004, codified the definition of an assault weapon. It defined the rifle type of assault weapon as a semiautomatic firearm with the ability to accept a detachable magazine and two or more of the following:
a folding or telescoping stock
a pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of the weapon
a bayonet mount
a flash suppressor or threaded barrel designed to accommodate a flash suppressor
a grenade launcher
The US Army defines assault rifles as "short, compact, selective-fire weapons that fire a cartridge intermediate in power between submachinegun and rifle cartridges."
I cant remember any of the public shooting in the past 10 years or so where anyone used a fully automatic rifle or machine gun. Actually I cant remember any in my lifetime. But the media uses the term assault rifle incorrectly to promote sensationalism and fear, because most people are too ignorant to know otherwise, and you can see that it works just from reading a lot of the posts in the thread.Comment
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The solution is obvious. Nobody ever went on a massive killing spree at a gun show and it seems like every time this occurs it is at a school. CLEARLY schools are the problem not guns. We need to ban schools.Comment
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