It's really mind boggling to hear the arguments made by anyone pro gun. All logic goes out the window for them when this topic comes up.
It's not about being pro-gun, I'm not pro-gun, or anti-gun... But I do know common sense and know that making guns illegal isn't gonna stop criminals...
your average criminal will find it very difficult to find a gun in Australia or most other developed nations where guns are illegal... not saying it would be impossible if you knew some pretty hardcore types but it certainly not as easy as finding someone to sell you a bag of weed.
your average criminal will find it very difficult to find a gun in Australia or most other developed nations where guns are illegal... not saying it would be impossible if you knew some pretty hardcore types but it certainly not as easy as finding someone to sell you a bag of weed.
I know the US is a special case
When the government is arming the criminals - and supplying their drugs to sell - it'll never be impossible for criminals to get their hands on them heh
your average criminal will find it very difficult to find a gun in Australia or most other developed nations where guns are illegal... not saying it would be impossible if you knew some pretty hardcore types but it certainly not as easy as finding someone to sell you a bag of weed.
I know the US is a special case
Not trying to refute what you say, but just pointing out an example:
Martin Bryant (born 7 May 1967) is an Australian spree killer who pled guilty to murdering 35 people and injuring 21 others in the Port Arthur massacre, a shooting spree in Port Arthur, Tasmania, Australia, in 1996.
When the government is arming the criminals - and supplying their drugs to sell - it'll never be impossible for criminals to get their hands on them heh
just sayin, when you see robberies here of service stations or 7 11s its pretty much always with just a knife or baseball bat or something like that, hardly ever a gun because there are just not many out there.. Of course its a different situation though because there was never a time when handguns were legal or widespread here whereas they could ban then in the US and there would probably still be millions out there unregistered and owned by the crims. I got no answers.
your average criminal will find it very difficult to find a gun in Australia or most other developed nations where guns are illegal... not saying it would be impossible if you knew some pretty hardcore types but it certainly not as easy as finding someone to sell you a bag of weed.
I know the US is a special case
Yeah, just go ahead and make it illegal to have guns when everyone already has guns, and see how well that works out.
A knife-wielding man injured 22 children and one adult outside a primary school in central China as students were arriving for morning classes Friday, police said, the latest in a series of periodic rampage attacks at schools and kindergartens.
Guns are illegal in Mexico, and yet more people have been killed there (by gunfire) since 2003 than in Iraq and Afghanistan combined..... Please explain that to everyone here.
Guns are illegal in Mexico, and yet more people have been killed there (by gunfire) since 2003 than in Iraq and Afghanistan combined..... Please explain that to everyone here.
Cite your source, no one keeps records on gun death rates in Afghanistan.
Yeah, because people who break the law will abide by a law banning guns.
Failed logic is failed.
Such shootings are often the result of impulsive ideas, by people without prior intentions to murder. If you own a gun or have easy access to a gun, there is nothing to stop you from carrying out that idea.
The countries that rank high in the lists of deadliest mass shootings are countries in war, USA and Finland.
Guns are illegal in Mexico, and yet more people have been killed there (by gunfire) since 2003 than in Iraq and Afghanistan combined..... Please explain that to everyone here.
no enforcement, the majority of law enforcement are either on the take or too afraid to do anything. its like mad max world in some parts of mexico these days.
you don't know you're wearing a leash if you sit by the peg all day..
I cannot understand why people would want to own guns. All it takes is one person to develop a mental illness and you have a massacre. But it's also the culture that needs changing. Stop making stupid films glorifying violence, guns and now torture.
The problem with the whole criminals will get guns eventually. The people shooting up schools, movie theaters arent criminals but people who bought guns legally.
I vote ban for bullets. It's impossible to ever get back all the guns on the planet.
Or at least make them cost a lot more than they do.
heh i can't remember who it was, but there was a funny comedian skit about that. basically saying make each bullet $50, that way when a person is shot at they know they are worth it
heh i can't remember who it was, but there was a funny comedian skit about that. basically saying make each bullet $50, that way when a person is shot at they know they are worth it
Once upon a time, patriots who loved liberty, in other words, ordinary Americans, rose up with firearms against tyrants and threw them off these shores. Ever since, the story has inspired people all around the world. And the first thing the tyrants do is to round up all the guns, so that the government has a monopoly on the tools of violence. I'm really skeptical of the proposition that we are all safer, more free, and happier, when only people with badges have the guns. I think that invites tyranny. I don't think that anyone is safer when the basic means of self-defense that evens the playing field with criminals is taken away from peaceable citizens. I don't think it makes for a reduction in crime for bad people to know with reasonable surety that potential victims are unarmed.
I live in the last American jurisdiction that makes it always illegal for an ordinary citizen to go about armed, in fact it's a felony carrying 1-3 years in prison. Illinois. The other day, the Seventh Circuit declared the law unconstitutional and stayed the mandate for 180 days to give the legislature time to regulate our right to self defense. 180 days from now, I'll be one of the first in line for whatever permit may be required. Sanity finally comes to Illinois.
Extremism in the defense of Liberty is no vice. . . Restraint in the pursuit of Justice is no virtue.
Senator Barry Goldwater, 1964
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